And if you if travel through the seven levels of the candy cane forest, past the swirly twirly gumdrops of the gingerbread meadows, then you'll discover that cops and judges are perfect unbiased beings who are never partial. After all, since cops almost always get off, that must prove they're almost always innocent. The circular logic is complete. Who needs civilian oversight when cops, judges, lawyers and other members of the incestuous just-us system are quite capable of regulating themselves.
Keep your doors and windows locked! Even if you are home. Crackhead broke in.
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I saw a show on that stuff called "Angel Dusted". Scary stuff! Not only do they have super strength when on it, they think they can fly off buildings.......the can't!!
So, what the hell are you saying? If you look at my logic correctly, then you should find out that all three cases have to be true in order to make my "cops are not at fault" statement to be true.
Since cops can corrupt their cases, witnesses support and evidences support "are monitoring the cops".
wow, this is some fucked up stuff to hear. i havent had any encounters with this myself but im glad to hear your ok. word of advise though, even if you do take karate lessons and stuff, stay the hell away from these people and get out of the room if you can. i mean look, you even said it took three cops to beat the guy down into submission, i highly doubt a smaller women like you can take this person on, unless your bruce lee's sister or something. if youve got no other options but to fend for yourself then ok do what you got to do, but if you can stay away just do it. maybe consider getting a BB or pellet gun? i know that if used for the wrong reason you can still be charged with weapons, but in self defense im sure you have an argument for yourself. it wont kill the guy, but im pretty sure it will floor the guy, all the while keeping some distance between you two. i have one and use lead pellets, only cost me 80bucks and no licenses req, and do they sting! anyways my two cents, hope this never happens again though!
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Thats's awful, it must have been quite traumatic for you. I didn't know guys on meth were that impervious to pain. It reminds me of the stories I used to hear about 'angel dust' in the 70's.Adriana✿;981336 said:So I live in a nice neighbourhood, a secure building, nothing ever happens around here LOL Just the way I like it.
Yesterday at 3pm in the afternoon, I am on my stairmaster at home, working out and all of a sudden a fire extinguisher is thrown thru my hallway window!!! I live on the roof/top floor.
I see a dirty homeless person, sores all over his face and body crawl thru the broken window from the outside hallway, onto my deck and then tried to get in my living room! I was able to run and lock the patio door in time and called 911. He climbed on the roof, came down and tried to break my door in. Blood/Glass everywhere. I had my pepper spray ready, a knife, my screamer and a golf club ready but OMG! they wouldn't have helped, this guy was so wacked out on crack? meth?
He then tried all the doors on every floor trying to get in. Three cops had to punch, kick, pepper spray him for 5 minutes!!! Seriously 5 minutes to restrain him!!!! The cops kept yelling at me to go inside because they didn't want me to see how much they had to hurt him to get him in handcuffs. (I peeked thru another window and saw the entire thing. )One cop punched and kicked him at least ten times HARD in the face, while the other pepper sprayed him and it hardly fazed the bad guy. He kept trying to get back up!!! He was so messed up on drugs.
Wow. That was intense. Karate lessons coming up LOL
I guess the new guy who moved in the basement had this riff raff over. He is evicted today. Phew! So Keep your windows and doors locked, even if you are home!
Genrally speaking are you downtown or close to Gastown or something?
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One other thing...
Hopefully this will never happen again but if it does and you can't get away... go with the golf club. It's your best bet. Forget the Karate.
Hopefully this will never happen again but if it does and you can't get away... go with the golf club. It's your best bet. Forget the Karate.
The thing is that with a BB or pellet gun is that if you shoot some psychotic meth head with a BB, it'll just piss him off. Unless you live on a tv show where you can calmly shoot his eye out with your Red Rider Air Rifle.....this is pretty unrealistic. A safe room is the way to go. Call the cops, let them deal with it. That's what they are trained to do. If they have to beat him down, tough shit. What do you expect them to do? Lure him out with candy canes and kind words?
Thanks everyone for your kind words! I am doing much better! Went skiing, to get away for a few days and feel much better.
I wish they had tasered him! I was terrified, as it looked like he was going to get away from those three cops!!! I kept yelling to send more cops to 911. Having seen first hand what the police have to deal with, I say good for them! for doing what they did. That crazy guy was like hercules, no pain! And yes Gloria, LOL, I saw nothing!
Yes memyselfother, it took them under 10 minutes to get there at 4pmish in the afternoon. I have all my windows alarmed, this guy didn't care, he threw a fire extinguisher thru a huge window in the middle of the afternoon! I live in the westend, by the ocean westcoaster. I would NEVER live right downtown or gastown after seeing east hastings when I first moved here.
Jethro, if he threw the patio chair threw my living room window, my sister and I were gonna lock ourselves in the bathroom.
@emilio, i guess you are right. self defense wouldn't have helped. I am looking into the firearms safety course, and buying a gun. I was just so scared and felt so defenseless. I don't want to feel like ever again. I question if even bullets to the chest, would have stopped him. It took 600lbs of three men, after an extended beat down and pepper spray, to get him into cuffs.
I wish I could buy a taser.
It has under 10 floors. There is a common hallway that has windows that look out onto the roof, the suites have entire walls that are all windows. Its hard to explain. The 911 lady didn't get it either and thought i was pulling a prank. Until she heard more glass break and the fear in my voice LOL She kept telling me to calm down, I said to her I'd like to see how calm you would be with a crazed junkie breaking into your suite, as you speak!
I wish they had tasered him! I was terrified, as it looked like he was going to get away from those three cops!!! I kept yelling to send more cops to 911. Having seen first hand what the police have to deal with, I say good for them! for doing what they did. That crazy guy was like hercules, no pain! And yes Gloria, LOL, I saw nothing!
Yes memyselfother, it took them under 10 minutes to get there at 4pmish in the afternoon. I have all my windows alarmed, this guy didn't care, he threw a fire extinguisher thru a huge window in the middle of the afternoon! I live in the westend, by the ocean westcoaster. I would NEVER live right downtown or gastown after seeing east hastings when I first moved here.
Jethro, if he threw the patio chair threw my living room window, my sister and I were gonna lock ourselves in the bathroom.
@emilio, i guess you are right. self defense wouldn't have helped. I am looking into the firearms safety course, and buying a gun. I was just so scared and felt so defenseless. I don't want to feel like ever again. I question if even bullets to the chest, would have stopped him. It took 600lbs of three men, after an extended beat down and pepper spray, to get him into cuffs.
I wish I could buy a taser.
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I'm sorry to hear about that and am glad you are OK.
Imagine, 3 cops and still having problems subdoing the druggie.
I sort of now understand why cops go overboard sometimes.
Imagine, 3 cops and still having problems subdoing the druggie.
I sort of now understand why cops go overboard sometimes.
WOW - scary stuff, Adrianna! Glad you're ok!
This is one of the reasons I like to live realllly high up, and have tight security! (that and I have arachnophobia - and you don't get spiders really high up!)
This is one of the reasons I like to live realllly high up, and have tight security! (that and I have arachnophobia - and you don't get spiders really high up!)
If a cop is really that fit and "skillful", then any form of guns is not needed. If that junkie carries a gun, then I would use real gun!
Cops in Canada don't tend to use their brains whenever they get a call. No strategies at all!
Cops in Canada don't tend to use their brains whenever they get a call. No strategies at all!
That's what I would have done. Or taken a bat to his head. Something pretty vicious, I'll tell you that. I'll avoid a fight in just about any situation if I can, but if someone is trying to break into my house I'm going to hurt them really, really badly or potentially kill them, no hesitation.
Sounds rough but if someone is willing to do what these people are willing to do, you need to set a brutal example. Sounds like the cops took it easier on him than I would have.
Also, to whoever said self defense wouldn't help, that simply isn't true. If you are trained in jiu-jitsu you can render him incapacitated or unconscious no matter how drugged up he is. It's tough to walk with broken legs, or to stay awake when your carotid arteries are compressed.
The entire principle of jiu-jitsu is leverage. A small person can apply their entire bodyweight to a single joint and it's going to snap whether he's bigger, stronger, or drugged out of his mind. Take a class in jiu-jitsu if you want the best self-defense you can get as a smaller person. DO NOT TAKE KARATE. lol.
The entire principle of jiu-jitsu is leverage. A small person can apply their entire bodyweight to a single joint and it's going to snap whether he's bigger, stronger, or drugged out of his mind. Take a class in jiu-jitsu if you want the best self-defense you can get as a smaller person. DO NOT TAKE KARATE. lol.
Then you'd be charged with 2nd degree murder or in the least manslaughter. Again the laws in Canada are very different than those in the US. If someone is breaking into your house, if you are going to fend him off you must use a reasonable degree of force. Excessive force will usually result in a criminal charge. Pretty dumb, huh?
It's easy to say that in retrospect or when reading about someone else's experience, but try applying that after the shock of realizing someone has just broken into your home. You get scared, you get confused, you get tunnel vision. Your hearing becomes impaired and your brain kicks into survival mode. You don't have time to think about jujitsu or whatever unless you've experienced fighting for your life in shock mode a few times before in your life.
Leave the movies stuff for the movies.
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This is why Canada has less "outside" investors than U.S. and some other countries. As a result, Canada is a poor country!
Well you're kind of an idiot, to be honest. The reason you TRAIN is so that when a situation arises where you need to use it, you don't HAVE to think about it, because you've trained yourself to know what to do in advance. If you think self-defense is "stuff for the movies" you're a moron, frankly. Jiu-jitsu is a highly effective discipline for self-defense. If you go into shock, get tunnel vision, and lose your hearing when you're scared you really need a HUGE boost of self confidence. This reaction comes from being weak and defenseless.
You clearly know absolutely nothing about fighting and martial arts, so you should probably avoid acting like you know what you're talking about, and should absolutely avoid giving people any sort of advice on the subject.
I can't say it any more clearly, if you think training to learn how to defend yourself is useless or something that happens only in movies, you are really, really stupid. Roll by an MMA gym and see if you can last more than 25 seconds with anyone in the gym. If you can't, you have no business talking about the subject. There are plenty of girls at my gym who can decimate guys a lot bigger than them because they took the time to train themselves instead of being a scared victim who will just go into shock and collapse when something goes wrong.
You sound like a pretty big coward to me. Most likely some fat balding old man who has never had to defend himself. lol.
What you said about the reason training is useful is right, but what I've quoted here is completely wrong. That reaction doesn't come from being weak and defenseless, it comes from how human beings are hard-wired for survival. It's a combination of instinct and biology. The tunnel vision effect, and the impared hearing (note that what actually happens is impared hearing, not losing your hearing - if you don't know the difference, then you've probably never been in a true life-or-death situation) are both designed to focus all of your senses on the threat to your life. From an evolutionary standpoint, it's an adaptation that is more likely to allow survival in dangerous situations.
No amount of training can ensure that you never experience this reaction. If you're trying to avoid this reaction, the way training can help is to change the way your subconcious assesses the initial threat. If your subconcious assesses the initial threat as something that you can handle relatively easily (which is why the training can be helpful - if the threat is something covered by your training, then there's a better chance that you can handle it, and your subconcious knows this and will assess it accordingly), then the tunnel vision and selective hearing reaction is unlikely. If, however, your subconcious assesses the threat as something that you can't handle, and as something that has a good chance of killing you (something your training didn't cover, for example), then you'll get that reaction regardless of how much confidence you think you have. The only exception is in people with a certain brain defect (I know that's not the technical term - I can't remember the actual term) that impairs their threat assessment. Basically those people physically can't feel fear, and because of that they usually die quite young, because they take too many risks.
