How does openminded gfe differ from veryopenminded gfe

[Islandmoneyshot]

Alot of girls addvertise very open minded gfe.
What does this mean?
It should mean bbbj as safe gfe is cbj
does it have to do with greek?
I know SP's will say it means that you can discuss many things with them... I find this practise missleaded to newbies like me.
Case in point... one un-named SP advertises GFE (apon further inspection this includes Greek for extra and bbbj with cim)
Another offers Very Open Minded GFE ( apon further inspection this includes DFK, Digits Msog etc... no greek no bbbj etc)

I am not against cbj or bbbj I would just like some clarifacation as I do not like asking for something if It should be apparent that it is not on the menu.

Please no BBBJ vs. CBJ std infighting etc.... that is all personal preferance.

Anyways please help me out?

 

[Wyatt]

In my experience GFE means ymmv on bbbj and very openminded GFE means they're open to Greek as well. I've seen safe GFE advertised and when I've inquired, they say no to bbbj and or kissing, daty etc. Really, they should advertise, your worst GFE lol.

 

[Islandmoneyshot]

Thats what I thought. When I enquired about bbbj to an agency I was called names and told to trolling Rock Bay. This surprised me as Safe GFE is the only non-BB bj that I have heard of. YMMV is a must of course as not all cutlery is as nice/clean as others and it should be the Sp's choice what she is willing to do. If She is not willing to entertain BB or Greek or DFK etc... it should be "safeGFE". Thanks for clarifying.
To me it should be as follows

Safe GFE; lfk, cbj, mish, hj
GFE; above plus, dfk, variable positions, msog, cob, daty
Open/veryopen minded GFE; above plus, cim, facial, greek, dom/sub, dato, fetish,bbbj, duo etc...

thanks.... anyone else?

 

[island-guy]

GFE is meaningless as it has been used to mean so many different things by so many different SPs that it means absolutely nothing anymore.

So, if GFE is meaningless, safe-GFE and openminded GFE and veryopenminded GFE are equally meaningless.

Just ignore the term "GFE" in an SP's ad and keep it simple.

BBBJ means BBBJ.

Greek means Greek

DFK means DFK

etc

 

[not2old]

I personally don't think that BBBJ should fall into the GFE catagory at all .

Yes, I agree. I have never thought of BBBJ as a GFE service.

For me, GFE is LFK-DFK, DATY, MOSG, CBJ, MPOS, Digits

Safe GFE, no fluid exchange (no DATY, LFK/DFK).

 

[Oceans11]

I can't imagine a GFE experience without kissing, although some well reviewed SPs (one in particular) say that their services are a true GFE, even without kissing. For me, the illusion of actually wanting to have sex with me is hard to pull off if the SP is not open to kissing. I've never had an experience with a girlfriend (or one night hook-up) that would have sex with me with no kissing - CBJ, BBBJ and DATY have sometimes been off-limits, though. To me, it goes to the core of the GFE idea.

I think of GFE as a more romantic experience that definitely includes kissing - it could include either CBJ or BBBJ, but the term is not specific to either covered or uncovered BJs.

To me, Safe GFE means a GFE where any BJ is covered.

I would think that saying safe GFE means no fluid exchange (i.e. no kissing) differs from the expectations of most pooners.

 

[neverwas]

I have given up trying to understand GFE in all of its forms. I don't care what the SP or agency wants to call it.
Before making a decision who to see I look for an actual list such as the list for each girl on the Sweet VIPs web-site. It bothers me that a list of acronyms looks like a shopping list, but, except to the extent of YMMV, I like to know what to expect.
On this, and other boards, there have been many attempts to define the various levels of GFE, all without sucess. Everybody seems to have a definition, but nothing will ever be standardized.
At least, if the ad says LFK or CBJ or DATY or DIGITS we know what those terms mean and can make the decision whether that is acceptable to us. I don't expect all SPs to offer exactly what I am looking for, but I don't like to inadvertently end up with one that doesn't. Misunderstandings are not comfortable for either of us.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

Very very openminded

I am not going to say my "definition ' of VERY open minded. I am a fairly perverted guy or so Ive been told again and again.I have been AMAZED at the level of service I have been provided with on either the initial date or on second. Bless you girls and keep up the great work - my newest "find" being "Kim Honey" who was a VERY good date who will be back in the new year.

 

[shyboy123]

What he said

... Bless you girls and keep up the great work ...

I think I am pretty low maintenance in a session with an SP as I don't have much to request over the standard routine, but just the same I am really really appreciative for such wonderful company and these girls sharing their lovely bodies with me. So amen to AWTY's post. Thanks ladies.

 

[mariner]

kissing

I can't imagine a GFE experience without kissing, although some well reviewed SPs (one in particular) say that their services are a true GFE, even without kissing. For me, the illusion of actually wanting to have sex with me is hard to pull off if the SP is not open to kissing. I've never had an experience with a girlfriend (or one night hook-up) that would have sex with me with no kissing - CBJ, BBBJ and DATY have sometimes been off-limits, though. To me, it goes to the core of the GFE idea.

I think of GFE as a more romantic experience that definitely includes kissing - it could include either CBJ or BBBJ, but the term is not specific to either covered or uncovered BJs.

To me, Safe GFE means a GFE where any BJ is covered.

I would think that saying safe GFE means no fluid exchange (i.e. no kissing) differs from the expectations of most pooners.

i agree there is no girlfriend out there to be had that wouldn't kiss you. as such a gfe would have to include kissing. different gf's would go for different things, some are completely anti oral, others anti condom. sex isn't even a given with a gf. i'd say the only constant with a real gf is a kiss and cuddle. so put whatever word around gfe you'd like but if it is no kissing drop the gfe and leave the other word<s> in place.
gravity pulls down, gfs kiss.