The Last Supper -- no more dinner dates

[Miami]

Hello… my name is Miami…. and I am an idiot

I have learned my Fu*k*ng lesson. I read all the comments on the boards from east coast to west coast regarding the wisdom of dinner dates with SPs. I read comments that indicate venturing outside the bedroom is a WOT & WOM. But, I just wasn’t smart enough to listen. I had an image of this fantasy date, with an elegant, sophisticated companion who would flirt and tease, and for a few short hours focus on me and play up my fantasy of being of the center of attention of a beautiful woman. Boy, have I learned the error of my ways.

So I am staying in a 4 star hotel suite on the east coast, with a great view overlooking the river. (this did not occur in B.C. ) I have to give some business presentations in this city. So I decide that when it is over, I would like to go out on the town and have a little fun, let off some steam, celebrate a job well done and focus on my personal rejuvenation. The worst part of my job is wondering around a strange city by myself night after night looking for a table for 1. So what better alternative, than to invite an elite companion to join me for an elegant dinner date? (I had referred to her as an escort, but she advised me that she is a courtesan, not an escort) An arrangement was made through a referral for an independent lady with no reviews and no website but was highly recommended. (This sounds like a stupid decision even to me as I write it). The price tag was steep but I really wanted some attention.

She arrives looking stunning. So sexy that I am initially concerned about our ability to maintain discretion for fear she will attract attention. I get over it. Unfortunately, her intellect, discretion and ability to take a ‘hint’ were not as impressive as her looks.

Excerpts from our conversation during a romantic walk to dinner:

Idiot Pooner: I have been traveling alone so much for work, that it is so nice to finally have a nice relaxing evening with someone nice.

Elite Courtesan: I know what you mean, I just returned from touring in city A, B & C. All my time lately has been with men. I never get to spend time with other girls. I met this one girl in city A, but that was a group sex thing. This guy I am with tells me to wait in his hotel room and then he returns with another escort and some guy. So I find out I am having sex with all these people. I told him you better be getting me drunk tonight.

Idiot Pooner: Well, city C is a wonderful place. I actually have season tickets to a concert series there so I visit quite frequently. They were given to me as a gift from an organization I did some work for. It is a great way to entertain visitors to that city. I love when it when I have an opportunity to expose someone to the cultural vibe there.

Elite Courtesan: One time when I was on tour there, I got so sick that I stop seeing clients. But one guy decided to show me around the city anyway. It was really nice. I gave him a blowjob because he was sweet and I wanted to say thank you.
Idiot Pooner: ‘silence’

Excerpts from the dinner conversation:

EC: You are kind of a unique guy. Usually when I go to your city, I have to see a bunch of Asian men. They love having a little girlfriend like me.
EC: I did see one guy like you, but he made such a big deal about the fact he writes a lot of reviews. He uses his status, as a well know reviewer to try to make be give better service and extras. I have a no review policy, no website and only date referrals.

IP: I have to ask you a favor. Can we NOT talk about the business? I am really uncomfortable.
EC & IP: ‘silence’

“EC” engages waiter in a conversation in his native language, which she is fluent in but I am not. "IP" stares out the window while they chat... and chat.... and chat. -I finish my water... she finishes her champagne.-


EC: Blah, Blah Blah about… the most amount of dates I have had in one night is…. I like to pick up young boy after a work date just to f**k someone young again. Blah, Blah,

IP: It is a little difficult for me to endure you talking with such candor and detail about your encounters with other clients. I hate to be a prude, but let’s savor this moment and not discuss issues that occurred before you knocked on my door.
EC: really, most guys get turned on.

IP: zones out, - has outer body experience and starts chastising myself for being sucked into this scam. I focus on what it is costing me to listen to this $%^! about other guys’ sexual adventures.

The return walk…

IP: I was pretty annoyed at that waiter always hanging out at our table, especially since you have a propensity for explicit sex talk. I was really afraid that we would blow our little secret.
EC: Oh don’t worry, they all know me well and what we are doing. I bring clients here all the time.

I suddenly remember an early comment she made about her younger days when she used to pick up a guy traveling with a large group, because she can usually go to dinner with the entire group and the restaurants give her a kickback for bringing in customers

This scenario goes on and on forever. Turns out I have lost the motivation and drive for romance. After a half-hearted attempt, I send her on her way.

IP: (self reflection) -- if your gonna read the review boards...why not USE the review board - DUH! (I don't do drugs and I don't drink alcohol -- it just seems that way)
All it takes for sp to label herself a courtesan is access to a computer. Since the reviews boards have ruled out dinner dates as the choice of any sane man… it is impossible to research which ladies have appropriate skills outside the bedroom. I am at a lost to explain why I would invest in a service that I could not research. I am not opposed to the concept of extended encounters, but since trial and error will be expensive, I need to limit myself to the part of the hobby for which facts are available.

I try to remind myself that I didn't fall for that email scam from the Nigerian heir who needed help transferring a large sum of cash, and I didn't will my money to the psychic who promise to send it to the after life... I sold my Enron stock when it was worth more than I paid... I have avoided some of the biggest scams of all time. Most say that I have a pretty good head on my shoulders.

However, if the decision is not being made above my shoulders.....
... well... My name is Miami….. and I am a idiot.

 

[WHOA]

The only idiotic thing you did was choose her without reviews, etc.

There are several escorts I can think of on this forum who would be good for dinner dates - I can tell because they talk about politics and other interesting things in the lounge. Instead of searching for reviews on dinner dates, you should of hung out in The Lounge and looked for ladies who can hold a conversation about things.

 

[chilli]

BIG Red flag any woman who doesn't allow or have reviews imo.

 

[Miami]

The only idiotic thing you did was choose her without reviews, etc.

There are several escorts I can think of on this forum who would be good for dinner dates - I can tell because they talk about politics and other interesting things in the lounge. Instead of searching for reviews on dinner dates, you should of hung out in The Lounge and looked for ladies who can hold a conversation about things.

Agreed.... After working many 60 hour weeks and flying between Europe, Asia and North America for work... I just didn't have time to spend on line getting to know people. So I called someone else, a woman who used to be an sp, who claim she had referrals and told her I wanted and just trusted her recommendation blindly.

Lesson learned... but as everyone knows.. education is expensive

 

[lenharper]

First time I went on a dinner date it was with Ms Nina Leone. Emailed back and forth a few times and then set it up like we had just met at the restaurant and then took it from there. It was what it was supposed to be, casual flirting, little footsie under the table, even a little flashing, all playful and fun but with suggestions that we might get a little more edgy later in the evening.

We did, saw each other a few more times after that. Probably will again, but the dinner date got us off to a good start...

 

[CaraClementine]

Sorry to hear about your bad experience, Miami.

This lady sounds like she was just oozing with class, charm, and seduction! lol
I also get the impression she was improperly attired. There is a fine line between sexy and slutty! lol The idea is to look mesmerizing, but not too revealing. Not a good idea to draw too much attention!

The job of a paid companion, is to make you the focus of the evening... unless you prefer her to talk about herself for most of the evening. In a girlfriend experience, talking about sexual adventures with other men does not usually excite.
She sounds like she had quite an inflated ego.

Unfortunately, you have had to learn the hard way.

Websites can be an important tool, as you can learn more about her and her interests. This being said, she may not have written the content on her website - or it may not be true.

When investing a significant amount of money on such an engagement, reviews DO help! Of course, there are girls that handle themselves better with shorter sojourns, than longer dates. This is why it's advantageous to do your homework, and choose a companion who has been reviewed for multi hour trysts. In retrospect, it's easy to say should've picked someone with reviews... but it sounds like you did not have the time or energy to properly research a companion.

Dinner dates can be a wonderful experience - with the right person.

 

[littlejimbigher]

My first and only expereience with a dinner date was a fantastic experience.
Mind you I had seen the SP before and knew I could talk to her inteligently.

 

[Miami]

Cliff Notes for Hubba

Is there a Coles Notes version? That's way too much reading

1. I wanted an evening that was all about me and my needs
2. I hired a cute young thing, to flaunt, flirt, F**K
3. She spent all evening taking about F**king other men
4. I got insulted and pissed and sent her home
5. I now feel like a dumb ass for letting this happen

 

[Avery]

Your biggest mistake was going on a dinner date with someone you'd never met before. Without having established a little rapport and trust first, what would you talk about? You certainly wouldn't feel comfortable talking about personal stuff.

I've only ever taken two escorts to dinner (both in Toronto), and in both cases, it was after we had several regular encounters and were very comfortable with each other. We knew each other's real names, the names of our kids, what we did in real life (they were both financial professionals during the day), etc. I would never consdier taking an unknown escort to dinner. If we turned out to be uncomfortable with each other, a dinner date could be excruciating.

This in no way justifies the escort's behaviour in your case, however, your mistake wasn't just picking the wrong escort. It was a strategic error, not a tactical one.

 

[littlejimbigher]

. If we turned out to be uncomfortable with each other, a dinner date could be excruciating.

No different than a bad blind date.

 

[Avery]

No different than a bad blind date.

Perhaps, but you might be more open about your personal life with a blind date than with an escort you don't know.

 

[Good Gloria]

Dictionary.

That lady could use a dictionary,

or at least a link to Classy Angels web page!

Unbelievable. So sorry that happened to you.
She sounds like she was Less than an Escort.

Dinner dates can be a little uncomfortable, but all the more reason to practice
the art of social conversation and interest. (still learning!!)

cheers.

 

[SirLongShaft]

hhmmm taking an escort to dinner?? wtf? sounds like a waste of cashola right from the word go my friend. Next time, eat alone, eat well, and use all that xtra dough to get you some duo or trio action...now theres money well spent

 

[Harmony-bc]

I have a few regulars from this board and they have told me that they would never write a review about going out to dinner. Most of the men here scoff at that idea. Nobody wants to go through all the trouble of writing a review to have people come along and belittle it. So for those of you, who like a little more romance, build up, banter, flirting, etc, it is really difficult to find a review on dinner dates. I'm sorry you had to tofft.

Maybe the rest of you should not make fun of people any more so that people are not afraid to write about their experiences!

I always try to keep the conversation light, fun, flirty, sexy but not sexual, and never too deep, unless that is the way the conversation drifts. The whole idea of going out for diner with a paid companion, is to be out in public with a pretty girl who is into you, and only you. There is a huge difference between a gfe escort and what you got.

I hope your next experience is better. If she had of been a store, I would have asked for a full refund. Shes like finding a fly in your soup, yuck.

I am a working girl and I would have been really embarrassed. I probably would have walked out of the restaurant and left her sitting there, but of course you were already financially involved, so that does make it more difficult.

 

[LeBeau]

BS...Talks and Money...Walks

An extended Dinner Date, going out to a restaurant, with an SP is always a disaster. If you want company on travel, go to an international bar and strike up conversations.

SP's are in this business strictly for the money and there is nothing wrong with that. It is difficult for them to make the conversion from keeping their head straight and being a convincible sexy companion or a friend in public for an extended period; especially if they just met you. It ain't gonna happen. Most of an SP’s time is being physically intimate with many different men and they have conditioned themselves to powerfully shutting down their feelings.

When a guy even hints about being more than a John to an SP, it is a turnoff to them. They have to keep their distance. They have learned to shut down their feelings when performing the most precious act of intimacy between a man and woman. That is extremely hard on them.

Hey, I like this hobby, its been both fun and disappointing but most of all I have had awesome adventures. The next time, try an extended session with lots of sex and breaks for snacks. My favorite is one hour of fun, a half hour of exotic foods and drinks and some cool music, a bath or shower together, more fun, more exotic foods...you get the idea. I am sure that fancy hotel had room service and you should have kept them busy.

LB

 

[mimi]

The above sounds very imaginative and romantic! Nice to see there are men out there who are playful and romantic.

Horrid Date! I think the two worst parts were: speaking a foreign language with the waiter, and, the explanation that she is well known as an escort! VERY DISCREET EH?

Some men wonder why women hide their faces in their ads and it isn't always about protecting their families. How would a social escort be able to appear at weddings and funerals, and, especially, the high school reunions, if she was known by sight as an escort?

(A one in a million chance you say? Well, I have bumped into too many coincidences in life to take that chance...)

What a pity you didn't do the research, because, you may never take a chance again, and, you could have had fun!

Maybe some of the men on board who have done "dinner" can pm their wonderful experiences.

 

[Miami]

"Miami had a bad dinner date? Nooooooooooo!"

spermy... why are you sitting above the table in that little dish? your friends want eat.

 

[uncleg]

spermy... why are you sitting above the table in that little dish? your friends want eat.

From the way they are looking at him in that dish, he's probably the main course.

 

[Miami]

When a guy even hints about being more than a John to an SP, it is a turnoff to them. They have to keep their distance.
LB

At no time did I ever lose sight of the nature of the SP/client relationship. I simply find that a little banter, buildup and romance (as described by Harmony BC) tends to make the main event more enjoyable.

I also love building a little love nest in the hotel and having room service cater to us. But I am currently spending 20 nights a month on road in a hotel and I need to get out once in awhile. I did not try to cross the line. I just wanted to be out in public, at a nice restaurant with a seductive companion as a prelude to the intimate time.

I guess I thought that is what a courtesan does. This particular lady objected to term "escort" as she considered herself a courtesan. I had described what I was seeking prior to the arrangement... it just didn't seem too far fetched.

As many have mentioned, it would be nice if these type of encounters could be reviewed.. but since that is not likely.... research is not easy.

Anyway, I have learned my lesson.

 

[Harmony-bc]

At no time did I ever lose sight of the nature of the SP/client relationship. I simply find that a little banter, buildup and romance (as described by Harmony BC) tends to make the main event more enjoyable.

I also love building a little love nest in the hotel and having room service cater to us. But I am currently spending 20 nights a month on road in a hotel and I need to get out once in awhile. I did not try to cross the line. I just wanted to be out in public, at a nice restaurant with a seductive companion as a prelude to the intimate time.

I guess I thought that is what a courtesan does. This particular lady objected to term "escort" as she considered herself a courtesan. I had described what I was seeking prior to the arrangement... it just didn't seem too far fetched.

As many have mentioned, it would be nice if these type of encounters could be reviewed.. but since that is not likely.... research is not easy.

Anyway, I have learned my lesson.

You did nothing wrong. You just got the hooker experience, rather than the girl friend experience, or hot first date experience. I for one pride myself on my ability to fit in every where I go. She obviously didn't.

It had nothing to do with picking an sp to go for dinner with. I for one know how to do a lot more than just fuck. I'm also completely comfortable with emotions. I kind of resent it when people think that we are all classless, money hungry, cold human beings. I wish people would realise that every individual is different, some people are good at some stuff others are good at other stuff. Please don't lump everybody into the same pile. How boring would that be if everybody thought, felt, and lived the same way.

Cara Clementine just got a review for a dinner date. Sexy Nina Leone is very good, classy company, and many, many more.