unbiased reviews..is it possible?

Very Veronica

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Lately i've noticed a few girls offering discounted sessions for reviews which to me instantly negates a review. Imagine reading reviews on cars, electronics, hotels, restaurants etc only to find out the reviewer got a kickback? Kinda blows credibility of the review & impartiality of reviewer, no? But then again, your future shop clerk isn't giving you a blowjob while she (let's not think about the pimply faced teenage boys..unless that's your thing of course) asks you to fill out the customer survey..oh, it's just all so imperfect.

Me, i never know when/if i'm being reviewed..i so shy. ;)

Thoughts?

And while i'm at it, what is it with all the 10's in service when the girl (usually a young hottie:rolleyes: ) does nothing more than give you good vanilla service? On the other board, 10's are for fantasy type skills & services.

An explanation of a '10' from that site:

For performance ratings, it is asked that you please save the 8, 9, and 10 ranks for situations where out of the ordinary services are provided (i.e. Blow Job - without condom, Kissing - with tongue, Anal - Yes, and Really Bi - Yes). Of course, the 10 rating should be reserved for an experience that is really worth a million!

An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering these service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.
 

FortunateOne

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Doesn't that definition of 10 worthy also skew results in a way? Why should risky activities merit 9's and 10's, as tho the sp is rewarded for endangering her health -- or I should say penalized for not. Also, perhaps the other board puts a limit on age & body type, specifying 9' & 10's are for sps 20-30 only and that no 10's may be given to sps 35+ for example.

I think the reviewer should be allowed to give whatever points make sense to him/her, at that these points should reflect how well the sp provided what the reviewer was looking for. That means an r&t provider should be able to get 10's, provided her service is above exceptional for an r&t encounter. But limiting 10's to bbbjs and anal means that the most phenomenal r&t service & attitude, etc etc is only worth 7. In the viewers eyes, that is going to affect their perception of the overall service.

R&T is an extreme example, but it is such a popular service it seems that such limits on what a reviewer can and can't do on that board does everyone a disservice, does not actually accurately reflect the reviewer's experience, etc.

There is NO good reason for any sp to provide discounts in exchange for reviews. I wouldn't consider any review posted as a result of a discount as believable, reliable, reputable, or any other -able. It is a desperate and pathetic move on the part of the sp, and completely inexcusable. It should make any potential client run in the opposite direction lol.
 

Kevin101

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I think that you are making casual reference to a new SP on this board that is offering discounts for someone to review her.

It is a way of marketing, and she capitalized on it. I wouldn't discount her reviews because of that. She has asked for honest reviews from respected members of this board.

If she had been giving discounts for over embellished reviews I would then not trust the review.

When we buy something on sale at future shop and review it, you don't review the product comparing purcahse price to usage. You review the product solely on how it performs.

Yes! She didn`t ask you to write a review and force you with some guy standing behind you with a bat at her house and write a review. Thats advertising. She picked it up and it worked! She nailed it.


She has asked for honest reviews from respected members of this board.

BINGO!!
 

FortunateOne

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When we buy something on sale at future shop and review it, you don't review the product comparing purcahse price to usage. You review the product solely on how it performs.
Future Shop doesn't advertise that in order to get the sale price, I must write a review.
 

nd1

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Hear! Hear! Hear!

Doesn't that definition of 10 worthy also skew results in a way? Why should risky activities merit 9's and 10's, as tho the sp is rewarded for endangering her health -- or I should say penalized for not.
A corollary to the "risky activities" argument is the "market segment" argument: Clients look for different services and don't necessarily find one to be a substitute for another. In other words, a 10-point BBFS (if "out-of-the-ordinary activities are worth more points, shouldn't that take the cake?) provider means absolutely NOTHING to those clients who don't seek it. Because of the different market segment, effectively this scoring scheme, in its attempt to enforce a uniform standard, achieves the exact opposite -- forcing people to compare apples and oranges.

I think the reviewer should be allowed to give whatever points make sense to him/her, at that these points should reflect how well the sp provided what the reviewer was looking for. That means an r&t provider should be able to get 10's, provided her service is above exceptional for an r&t encounter. But limiting 10's to bbbjs and anal means that the most phenomenal r&t service & attitude, etc etc is only worth 7. In the viewers eyes, that is going to affect their perception of the overall service.
In enforcing a uniform, supposedly objective standard across geographical markets that have different offerings, the scheme also makes reviewers guess what these "out-of-the-world" services or appearances are like, when the reviewers themselves may have been limited to much less. How are they going to "objectively" give scores when they haven't had the benefit of being exposed to what the "better" offerings are out there? Isn't it better to acknowledge that it IS always a subjective experience and scoring, and then appreciate these reviews on that basis (i.e., with a box of Morton's Kosher within reach).

When the number of services offered is limited (e.g., a straight R&T as compared to some fantastic, no-holds-bar PSE), it's actually HARDER for an SP to distinguish herself and earn that 10. She simply has fewer "tricks" to work with. She will have to make up for that with ambience, attitude, techniques and so on. In this scoring scheme, these attributes that are equally hard to come by are not being rewarded fully.

For myself, having fully professed to be subjective (although not all that "biased"), I would rather score from the standpoint of what I would consider the perfection of what a regular, fair-minded client would look for in terms of performance and appearance. If an SP fits that to a tee, she's a 10. For everything I find lacking, there is a deduction. So what Miss Veronica mentioned, a young hottie may get close to a 10 in appearance, if she has an attitude and is lacking skills or enthusiasm, she may not even get a 7 in performance. On the other hand, Miss Veronica herself may also get close to a 10 in appearance (have you folks seen her latest "new lingerie" picture? OMG!:eek: ) AND a perfect 10 in performance, for obvious reasons. I think my system is better than ERB's, especially since the scores are but a part of -- not in lieu of -- the whole review, in which the reader can gather more information on why the scores are so and whether the SP is in the market segment that he is after.

There is NO good reason for any sp to provide discounts in exchange for reviews. I wouldn't consider any review posted as a result of a discount as believable, reliable, reputable, or any other -able. It is a desperate and pathetic move on the part of the sp, and completely inexcusable. It should make any potential client run in the opposite direction lol.
Whereas I see your POV in this, I am not opposed to ladies offering a deep discount ("deep" being the operative word here) for a review. Said discount notwithstanding, I promise to be objective and fair. Any takers? :cool: :p ;) :D
 

threepeat

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Lately i've noticed a few girls offering discounted sessions for reviews which to me instantly negates a review. Imagine reading reviews on cars, electronics, hotels, restaurants etc only to find out the reviewer got a kickback? Kinda blows credibility of the review & impartiality of reviewer, no? But then again, your future shop clerk isn't giving you a blowjob while she (let's not think about the pimply faced teenage boys..unless that's your thing of course) asks you to fill out the customer survey..oh, it's just all so imperfect.

Me, i never know when/if i'm being reviewed..i so shy. ;)

Thoughts?

And while i'm at it, what is it with all the 10's in service when the girl (usually a young hottie:rolleyes: ) does nothing more than give you good vanilla service? On the other board, 10's are for fantasy type skills & services.

An explanation of a '10' from that site:
Yes the review will be biased, but I wouldn't say it's 100% useless. At least it shows she's willing to lay it out there, albeit with a stacked deck. It's sort of like when Tom Clancy gives another author's book the thumbs up.

That being said, if after this offer she DOESN'T get good reviews posted, that silence will speak volumes.

To your other point about hotties getting better service reviews, it's an interesting question. I don't know if you follow basketball, but it's kind of like how Shaquille O'Neal could do so many things well just because he was so much bigger than everyone else. Is size a talent? He didn't have to practice harder or work at being 7' tall and 300 lbs. By the same token, maybe the hot girl doesn't have to work nearly as hard to get the job done. But no matter how you slice it, if the guys' fantasy is fullfilled and he's 100% happy, then yeah I guess that's a 10.
 

Inamorato

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She didn't say I'm giving a discount for a good review. She said she's giving a discount to get a review. It appears to me that the members going could easily say they had a horrid experience. It's marketing plain and simple. Good on her for coming up with novel idea and being open and honest about what she expects.

All kinds of SP's have specials and it doesn't appear to alter how we think about them only how we can afford to see them.
The problem with that is, that if she knows she is going to be reviewed, she will be sure to give 100% during that session.

But what happens when the next guy comes to see her after reading said review, and receives sub-par service because here has been no discussion of a review from him?

Even if the reviews are sincere, they do not provide an accurate description if a providers day to day level of service, which is really the whole point of reviews, isn't it?
 

summerbreeze

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Do you mean like when a product company sends a free sample to an editor who writes up a positive review for a magazine? Happens all the time.

Editorials even when it is consumer vs journalist generated have the capability of being skewed. Most readers automatically factor this when reading a "glowing" review and seek a second or third opinion. The source is also noted for reliability.

I would put forward that regardless of the content, they are not always read at face value so I wouldn't worry too much the impact of these reviews.

Most consumers today are pretty careful with their spending and are quite sophisticated despite having a little head trying to influence a spending decision.
 

Kevin101

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The problem with that is, that if she knows she is going to be reviewed, she will be sure to give 100% during that session.

But what happens when the next guy comes to see her after reading said review, and receives sub-par service because here has been no discussion of a review from him?

Even if the reviews are sincere, they do not provide an accurate description if a providers day to day level of service, which is really the whole point of reviews, isn't it?
Good point BUT! The thing is she isn't 100% sure she will get a review or not. She asks that if I give you this discount in-return I would like a honest review from you. Words can only go so far. "Yes I will write a review for you".
 

summerbreeze

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10???

10??? what...... is that the question?

Professionals (marketing mainly) in products and services use a term called "satisfaction units" to describe an overall shopping or consuming experience.

It takes into account the overall experience which is of course subjective. This is because consumers vary amongst each other and will vary over time and certain moods or circumstances.

Overall, people like to be treated with friendship, respect, kindness, made to feel important, and physically pampered.

Delivering these value propositions to customers/clients is probably a function of sensitivity to the particular client. Sensitivity to their particular mood, and ability to deliver what satisfies that particular mood.

Not that I know anything, just my two bits worth..........
 

triplegun

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also she asked for someone that had 100+ post too not some that is new and would be called a shill. i think that is the most important part. when i started on this site and also others there first review was also called in to question not all but alot are. i think it was very fair what she did..other have come up to say that they paid someone to put up reviews but she just wanted an honest answer:D :D
 
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wilde

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Reviews are by nature, highly subjective. That's why I always take any reviews with a grain of salt anyway, so this changes nothing for me.

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htowns

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Interesting I didnt know some SP's were offering discounts for reviews, If that were the case I would have to think about that SP's reviews a little more but It would make It a lot easier If I had a good feeling that those reviews were unbiased for sure, but that could be hard to tell.


As far as reviews in general, my take is I do look at the reviews and I always want to get together with the SP's that are very reputable on perb and I have not had a bad experience by doing so, and I dont think I will. I always get a great sense that Im in for a wonderful time with an SP even Its the first time due to her repuation, and postive feedback from others.

I dont even glance and put any thought at a negative review If that SP's has several reviews who said she was wonderful, It doesnt really add up to me and to me Its not the SP's fault that the client possibly had a bad day or didnt feel a connection, maybe Its due to there personally whatever the reason is.

I also dont think its right when an SP feels like has to defend herself against a terrible review by a client when her reputation should speak for itself, and sometimes Its very negative annd uncalled for I feel.
 

bcneil

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I think maybe a disclaimer in the review.

Something like....I was offered $50 off beforehand if I promised to do a review.

:confused:
 

owz

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Lately i've noticed a few girls offering discounted sessions for reviews which to me instantly negates a review. Imagine reading reviews on cars, electronics, hotels, restaurants etc only to find out the reviewer got a kickback? Kinda blows credibility of the review & impartiality of reviewer, no?
BINGO
(m*69 comes to mind... :cool: )

Do you mean like when a product company sends a free sample to an editor who writes up a positive review for a magazine? Happens all the time.

Editorials even when it is consumer vs journalist generated have the capability of being skewed. Most readers automatically factor this when reading a "glowing" review and seek a second or third opinion. The source is also noted for reliability.

I would put forward that regardless of the content, they are not always read at face value so I wouldn't worry too much the impact of these reviews.

Most consumers today are pretty careful with their spending and are quite sophisticated despite having a little head trying to influence a spending decision.
Just because it happens all the time doesn't make it right (but you already knew that). ;)
In the wine circles, there's a certain wine critic that NEVER accepts samples/btls from wineries.
 

nd1

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In the wine circles, there's a certain wine critic that NEVER accepts samples/btls from wineries.


... who is no less biased nevertheless...

You KNOW certain wines are going to get astronomical scores from him no matter what. Sending him samples or comp'ing him is not the issue -- the issue is that more and more wineries are making wines specifically architectured to his taste, just to get good scores and get sold out.

God forbid if that should happen in this hobby of ours! Cookie-cutter SPs!
 

Krustee

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Lately i've noticed a few girls offering discounted sessions for reviews which to me instantly negates a review. Imagine reading reviews on cars, electronics, hotels, restaurants etc only to find out the reviewer got a kickback? Kinda blows credibility of the review & impartiality of reviewer, no? But then again, your future shop clerk isn't giving you a blowjob while she (let's not think about the pimply faced teenage boys..unless that's your thing of course) asks you to fill out the customer survey..oh, it's just all so imperfect.

Me, i never know when/if i'm being reviewed..i so shy. ;)

Thoughts?

And while i'm at it, what is it with all the 10's in service when the girl (usually a young hottie:rolleyes: ) does nothing more than give you good vanilla service? On the other board, 10's are for fantasy type skills & services.

An explanation of a '10' from that site:
Don't get yer knickers all in a bunch V V!

I'm sure we can come to an arrangement for me writing a glowing review about your amazing sexual prowess!

Everybody here knows I never lie so if I say yer a hot tamale ....
well hell, everybody's gonna want ta taste yer sauce!



 

AA_Train

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Since being in this lifestyle and writing reviews, I find the reviews are also kind of reviews of ourselves. The women are at their best when we are most open to experiencing them. If we have an off day, how can we possibly expect to get the most out of them and how can we say they gave bad service? I've hada couple experiences like that and in no way did I hold it against he ladies, who both were eager and professional. I think when guys are writing negative reviews of women, they should take that into consideration.
 

wet_suit_one

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I think that an unbiased review is impossible. If only for the reason that freaks don't like big tits (WTF is with that???).

Think about it...
 
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