Who's the worst Canuck Captain: Linden or Naslund?

[BJhunter]

Perhaps I should define worst, since the BW can get confused.

Should it be Linden: for giving up the captaincy to Messier? For not inspiring others around him to play better? Not knowing his career was over 2-3 years before he retired? He wasn't that talented to begin with...led the team to the finals and that's it...but plenty of heart & character...

Or Nassie, probably one of the most sickest captains ever to interview. Same crappy attitude...didn't seem to care...reluctant to even be there after the games...monotone...boring...perhaps made Bertuzzi better, and for sure, made Morrison looked better (he sure played bad in Anaheim, they cut him, terrific!!!)...and how could a captain apologize on the PA @ GM Place and say, "...we choked..."??? Wasn't exactly playoff material either, and not just in points, but in terms of taking his team to the next level.

What great captains should be doing

it's only in this stupid hockey city, where we name a GOALIE to be captain. What a joke!

 

[bartendr]

for giving up the captaincy to Messier?

A good leader knows when to step back, and a real leader doesn't need a letter on the chest to have others follow.

Messier can take his size 56 head and stick it in his size 42 ass.

 

[greatshark]

Luongo

but not his fault, should never have made a goalie the captain.

 

[summerbreeze]

If you know anything about sports teams, you will know that as far as captains are conerned, the only thing that counts is that the players respond to them.

Lots of forms of leadership but if the players don't respond they will not play hard. Same goes for coaches. Forget the media. Maximum output and effort from the players and teamwork is what its all about.

 

[jackng]

I don't know why I bother visiting SP's. These rants cheer me up on any crappy day.

Sort of a cross between a crazy bitter old man and a Canuck fanatic.
I wish they could have bjhunter at the Calgary Zoo. Motherfucking flamingos.

and its Naslund. Had his moments of brilliance in the regular season and tried his best, but ultimately disappeared in the post-season. And he wasn't a very vocal leader was he? Who sees Naslund and gets inspired? I never believed best player = captain.

BTW, we got Iginla --> the total package. Luongo? It's iffy. Neg: limits on what he can do to lead. Pro: he is definately their leader.

Linden? I'd love to bash the nucks but even I respect this guy.

Next poll: the best canuck fan? bjhunter or michael buble?

 

[trackstar]

I don't know why I bother visiting SP's. These rants cheer me up on any crappy day.

Sort of a cross between a crazy bitter old man and a Canuck fanatic.
I wish they could have bjhunter at the Calgary Zoo. Motherfucking flamingos.

and its Naslund. Had his moments of brilliance in the regular season and tried his best, but ultimately disappeared in the post-season. And he wasn't a very vocal leader was he? Who sees Naslund and gets inspired? I never believed best player = captain.

BTW, we got Iginla --> the total package. Luongo? It's iffy. Neg: limits on what he can do to lead. Pro: he is definately their leader.

Linden? I'd love to bash the nucks but even I respect this guy.

Next poll: the best canuck fan? bjhunter or michael buble?

Good to see that people outside of Vancouver see it that way too! It takes away the repetitive KN/BW excuse that usually follows from the wrinkled up raisin of a troll

 

[BJhunter]

Luongo

but not his fault, should never have made a goalie the captain.

Glad to hear that He still should've declined when offered, being a goalie is enough pressure & responsibility. Probably the fact that no other goalie has been captain since whenever the Original 6 goalie was, got to Bobby's head.

It just astounds me how the management of this cursed franchise operates, and do things the way they do...hire a former sports agent, did they think he's the next Pierre Lacroix? name a goalie a captain? Just b//c he's the best player or the most passionate? What about the trainer, he's pretty passionate about his job too, or how about the dude who sells popcorn, running up and down the aisles during the games?

In answering my poll, I'd say Nassi's the worst captain between the two. I'll take Linden anyday, over that European's points, b/c #16 can lead his team, and his performance in the playoffs. That big goal against Calgary, New York; but I can hardly remember when Naslond did in the playoffs.

 

[wilde]

In answering my poll,

It was actually a question, but if you want to call it a poll, a poll it is.

Your girlfriend's ... obsession is starting to rub off on you, huh?

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[bartendr]

I'll take Linden anyday, over that European's points, b/c #16 can lead his team, and his performance in the playoffs. That big goal against Calgary, New York; but I can hardly remember when Naslond did in the playoffs.

He wasn't necessarily always the best player. He did have a penchant for big plays in the playoffs.

Yes, the ones against Calgary, New York(esp game 7) and Dallas a couple years ago. The hearth and soul he showed in '94, especially game 6 when Messier cheap shotted him in the head.

Watch some of the games(try nhltorrents.co.uk), he WAS the leader.

 

[InTheBum]

Perhaps I should define worst, since the BW can get confused.

Should it be Linden: for giving up the captaincy to Messier? For not inspiring others around him to play better? Not knowing his career was over 2-3 years before he retired? He wasn't that talented to begin with...led the team to the finals and that's it...but plenty of heart & character...

Or Nassie, probably one of the most sickest captains ever to interview. Same crappy attitude...didn't seem to care...reluctant to even be there after the games...monotone...boring...perhaps made Bertuzzi better, and for sure, made Morrison looked better (he sure played bad in Anaheim, they cut him, terrific!!!)...and how could a captain apologize on the PA @ GM Place and say, "...we choked..."??? Wasn't exactly playoff material either, and not just in points, but in terms of taking his team to the next level.

What great captains should be doing

it's only in this stupid hockey city, where we name a GOALIE to be captain. What a joke!

Nazzy for a few years had a great shot and skills, meanwhile Linden had the HEART with lame skills... and both are complete wimps!

NEITHER ARE CAPTAIN MATERIAL IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE CUP!

 

[bobo69z]

C'mon your criteria for making a captain bad or worse is "suckish" itself BJH!!!
I'm not a Linden fan or a Canucklehead fan, but Linden in 1994 rises above and beyond inspiring a team. Linden was never drafted for his scoring prowess but his maturity and work ethic. Any player who asks to have his draft interview rescheduled so he can finish his work on the farm tells you right there what type of person they are.
What choice did Linden have when asked to give his captaincy to "the greatest leader" of all times (Moose Moose the Clown), he got traded anyway.
Worse captain between the two, Naslund hands down. What type of captain tells his team that he really wants to move back to Sweden because he doesn't want to raise his kids up in North America?

Habs fan since 1967 (check the irony on that).

 

[trackstar]

C'mon your criteria for making a captain bad or worse is "suckish" itself BJH!!!
I'm not a Linden fan or a Canucklehead fan, but Linden in 1994 rises above and beyond inspiring a team. Linden was never drafted for his scoring prowess but his maturity and work ethic. Any player who asks to have his draft interview rescheduled so he can finish his work on the farm tells you right there what type of person they are.
What choice did Linden have when asked to give his captaincy to "the greatest leader" of all times (Moose Moose the Clown), he got traded anyway.
Worse captain between the two, Naslund hands down. What type of captain tells his team that he really wants to move back to Sweden because he doesn't want to raise his kids up in North America?

Habs fan since 1967 (check the irony on that).

Actually, he was drafted as a high scoring power forward. Just look at his numbers in the juniors. I remember one of his earlier games, he skated around the ice hitting anything that moved. Then the vets started focusing their hits on him and that was the end of that. Trevor and Todd turned into the same, non physical players, opposite as to what made them successful to begin with. The trade was even, Todd stepped it up a year later, Trevor never did.

 

[bobo69z]

True Trackstar,

Linden was a high scoring forward once again second to Mike Modano.
But Quinn drafted him more because of his maturity on and off the ice...

 

[spicdick]

The absolute worst captain without doubt was Messier da fag.
Nazzy had major head and confidence problems of his own and should never have been a captain.
Linden grew old as we all do , but was always true to us. and was a solid captain.
anyone who slags him is a ignorant dipshit.
The rteason we lost to Chicago was they were better and coaching sucked. in game 2 or 3 (cant remember which one it was) we were up 1-zip and coach descides to play a trap to protect the big lead. so we are on our heels the rest of the game with a young team pounding us with shots. we could have beat them had we just played our regular style and gone at them. Coach Froggy has to go with Sundin,Pyatt.

 

[bartendr]

The rteason we lost to Chicago was they were better and coaching sucked. in game 2 or 3 (cant remember which one it was) we were up 1-zip and coach descides to play a trap to protect the big lead. so we are on our heels the rest of the game with a young team pounding us with shots. we could have beat them had we just played our regular style and gone at them.

That was the biggest coaching blunder I've seen in a while.

 

[Pimmel]

Alain wasn't experienced enough as a coach. Willie Mitchell opened his big freakn mouth when he said he wasn't impressed with Toews, that gave him spark to kick up his game. Any playoff vet, or coach would know that you never give the other team ammo. Alain should have put a gag order on his players.

 

[hunsperger]

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Nazzy for a few years had a great shot and skills, meanwhile Linden had the HEART with lame skills... and both are complete wimps!NEITHER ARE CAPTAIN MATERIAL IF YOU WANT TO WIN THE CUP!

InTheBum tells it like it is...

with regards to Linden...

perhaps the most overrated player in the moden history of the game...

I wonder if he has visited Children's hospital since he retired...

he was a money grubbing jackass as President of the NHLPA...

a political smarm ball...

he had such a PR machine going out of Vancouver at one time that three teams were hoodwinked into thinking he had ability...

the Islanders, Canadiens (sorry Wilde) and Capitals...

ultimately he found his way back to the only team and city that could stomach him...

BTW, ITB, agree with you regarding Jennifer Tilley...

nothing but a retread whore...

 

[wilde]

Linden was

traded to Montreal by NY Islanders for Montreal's 1st round choice (Branislav Mezei) in 1999 Entry Draft, May 29, 1999. Mr. Mezei went on to play exactly zero games in the NHL, so no harm done.

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[festealth]

Actually, he was drafted as a high scoring power forward. Just look at his numbers in the juniors. I remember one of his earlier games, he skated around the ice hitting anything that moved. Then the vets started focusing their hits on him and that was the end of that. Trevor and Todd turned into the same, non physical players, opposite as to what made them successful to begin with. The trade was even, Todd stepped it up a year later, Trevor never did.

In his defense, he was quickly converted into a 2-way forward, that probably lowered his numbers a bit. Plus, he was made into a "big centerman" that the Canucks organization had some hard-on for some unknown reason, while he did alright in that role, he was better as a RW.

He was just tailored to what the Canucks needed at the time, thus limiting his impact a bit. Imagine if the team wanted Bure to win the Selke instead of the Richard..... I doubt he'll have as dynamic NHL career as he did.

 

[hunsperger]

...

In his defense, he was quickly converted into a 2-way forward, that probably lowered his numbers a bit. Plus, he was made into a "big centerman" that the Canucks organization had some hard-on for some unknown reason, while he did alright in that role, he was better as a RW.

He was just tailored to what the Canucks needed at the time, thus limiting his impact a bit. Imagine if the team wanted Bure to win the Selke instead of the Richard..... I doubt he'll have as dynamic NHL career as he did.

I agree...

had they just cultivated his natural talents as a right-winger in the early 80's, he would have been a 70-80 goal scorer ...

just like Hull and Selanne...

as it turns out...

his legacy will be nothing but a two bit...

except in Vancouve ...

BTW, can anybody tell me if he has visited Children's hospital since he has retired...

haven't read anything in the news...