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The Obama Deception: Alex Jones

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PERSON

In Appendix D, I quote court cases to show that a person is a non-sovereign. King George in the Treaty of Paris granted sovereignty to all Americans (while retaining title as Arch Treasurer). Those who submit to the laws of congress give up their sovereignty in exchange for a personage.

Sovereigns are those who are above the laws legislated by their servants. Persons are those who submit to legislated law. Later, I will show that the judicial branch of state government protects state citizens from legislated law.

Throughout history, those who ignore God are taken into captivity. You were tricked into becoming a person when you applied for a Social Security number.





ENFRANCHISED CITIZENS

In the olden days, enfranchised persons received rights and protections from a ruler to whom they owe allegiance. This hasn't changed. Enfranchised citizens are slaves on the federal plantation to whom they owe allegiance.

Black's Law Dictionary defines the legal maxim that Protection Draws Subjection:

"The protection of an individual by government is on condition of his submission to the laws, and such submission on the other hand entitles the individual to the protection of the government."
That's right! If you cannot agree to their perverted, licentious laws then don't take their protection. You qualify for benefits by agreeing that they are your protector/master/lord/benefactor. If you take their benefits, you must submit whether you like it or not. No matter how evil they become. No matter how much they demand. If you take their benefits, they make your rules. They determine what is right and what is wrong. Your moral values are now dictated from your benefactor. This maxim has always existed. Slaves submit to their lords. Slaves must be provided for. Children must submit to parents. Wives submit to husbands. The law of coverture is a part of this legal doctrine. Christians submit to Christ. What chain of command are you in?
Further proof of this legal maxim is in the Black's Law Dictionarydefinition of "Allegiance:"

"Obligation of fidelity and obedience to government in consideration for protection that government gives. U.S. v. Kuhn, D.C.N.Y., 49 F. Supp. 407, 414"
Conclusion: Applying for benefits subjects you to "obligation of fidelity and obedience" to a worldly master.
Now that you know what allegiance means, and now that you know the red beast of Revelation is socialism, and now that you know that a Russian general will always be in command of the UN military, perhaps you can now understand that George Bush correctly stated "It is those sacred principles enshrined in the UN Charter to which we must henceforth pledge our allegiance." Biblical principles remain true. Americans have sold their birthright. According to Jesus: Benefactors exercise authority.

Benefactors exercise authority. This is evident in the legal definitions that your government uses. The legal definition of 'enfranchisement" makes it seem that God given rights come from benefactors. Notice how the following legal definitions focus on benefits without mentioning the obligations attached to accepting the benefits. Notice how some of the government granted benefits are counterfeits of the rights that free people would have. According to Black's Law Dictionary today's lawyer definitions of `enfranchisement' include:

"The act of making free (as from slavery)."
"Investiture with privileges or capacities of freedom, or municipal or political liberty."
"Conferring the privilege of voting upon classes of persons who have not previously possessed such."
"See also Franchise" Franchise includes the following definitions:
"A special privilege to do certain things conferred by government on individual or corporation, and which does not belong to citizens generally of common right ... "
In England it is defined to be a royal privilege in the hands of a subject."

Again: Notice how these are government granted privileges that allow the person to exercise some of the rights of free people. But, like any privilege granted by government, they can be revoked.

I will also show you later that civil rights must be regulated, and that natural rights cannot be regulated. Real rights do not come from government. Government cannot grant rights, although they often refer to their privileges as rights.

You can read between the lines. These lawyer definitions use freedom and voting as examples of government granted "rights." At the risk of seeming too cynical: Livestock has owner granted rights also. Just because your current owner can be nice to you, doesn't mean you are free, nor does it mean you won't be sold. Just because you can vote for President, doesn't mean you are free. In fact, it is proof that you are a slave. Even the US Supreme Court says "the Constitution of the United States has not conferred the right of suffrage upon any one." (Minor v. Happersett and in US v. Cruikshank).

The courts have ruled that the Buck Act defines "an individual entity" as franchised persons of government. Springfield v. Kenny 104 NE2d 65 and Wheeling Steel Corp. v. Fox 298 US 193. Social Security and welfare are available only to federal citizens. Federal citizens cannot have rights. Social Security benefits are not available to state citizens. A state Citizen cannot obtain a Social Security Number without first obtaining a dual citizenship acknowledged by your federal government. By getting a number, you change your citizenship. (See Appendix C). By registering for the benefits available only to enfranchised persons, you become an enfranchised person. Only those persons receiving government benefits are required to have a social security number. No one else has ever been required to get a SSN.

WARD - "Guarding, caring, protecting." - "A person ... placed by a court under the care and supervision of a guardian or conservator."
Again, protection draws subjection. You are under the care of the legislature, from whom you get your `rights' and protections in exchange for your submission.
I can prove that an attorney is your court appointed guardian, and is considered competent to manage your affairs, whereas you are considered incompetent to manage your own affairs.

Go to the Law Library and find the legal encyclopedia entitled "Corpus Juris Secundum." Look up "Attorney & Client" Section 4 in Volume 7 and read: "His first duty is to the courts and the public, not to the client."

That's right: he represents the public, therefore he cannot represent you. (And don't be deceived by the word `public.' It means `government." Examples: public office, public housing, public roads, public library, public school, public law, and public records. And furthermore, as I digress further, the word "republic" comes from a Latin idiom `Libera res publica' which means "free from government things." This is from the Collin's Latin Dictionary. Even Webster's 1828 Dictionary says a Republic has only titular governmental powers. This is because they can only legislate to those who volunteer into their jurisdiction. Later, I will quote the Supreme Court's Meyer case to show that liberty is freedom from arbitrary regulations. Then I'll prove that lawyers cannot represent you according to the Supreme Court's Schware case).

Then look up `client':

"A client is one who applies to a lawyer or counselor for advice and direction in a question of law, or commits his cause to his management ... one who communicates facts to an attorney expecting professional advice. Clients are also called "wards of the court" in regard to their relationship with their attorneys."
To find out what it means to be a "Ward of the Court," go to Black's Law Dictionary. There is only one definition, so you can't possibly get it wrong. "Wards of the Court" are "Infants and persons of unsound mind ... under the care of a guardian."
That's right! You must be crazy to talk to an attorney. You are not competent to manage your own affairs. Even asking "... for advice and direction in a question of law ..." or "expecting professional advice" proves that you cannot manage your own affairs. You do not have the law in your right hand and forehead.

You volunteered into an evil system that has absolute contempt for any timid soul who is too faint-hearted to resist his oppressors. This is the evil world we live in. Yet in Matthew 5:39 Christ requires you to tolerate attacks from evil people and turn the other cheek. These bullies will have absolute contempt for this behavior. They don't understand that you are obeying a higher authority.
 

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ACCEPTING BENEFITS

Christ was correct that benefactors gain authority over you (Luke 22:25, but compare to Matt 20:25, Mark 10:42). "Rights" come only from responsibilities. If you cannot be responsible for providing for yourself, then don't expect any rights.

Did you pledge allegiance to your new lord? Here is what pledge means according to Strong's Concordance from the four words that are translated into the KJV word `pledge':

H6162. (in the sense of exchange) a pawn given as security.
H2258. a pawn (as security for debt).
H2254. to wind tightly (as a rope), i.e. to bind; specifically by a pledge; figuratively to pervert, destroy; also to writhe in pain.
H6161. in the sense of a bargain or exchange; something given as security, i.e. (lit.) a token (of safety) or (metaphor) a bondsman:--pledge, surety.
If you want their benefit, you must pay whatever price they ask. They have asked you to give yourself as collateral. You and all your future labor are held as collateral until the national debt is paid. Later, I will show that there is a strong link between the US Treasury and foreign authorities, including the Holy Roman Empire. Also be aware that there are foreign owners of your Federal Reserve Bank.
The Act to Strengthen Public Credit, signed into law by Ulysses Grant on March 18, 1869, pledged every American citizen as collateral for the repayment of all government obligations, including the national debt. Your federal government did not own anything, the states and the people owned all the wealth. In order to get the central banks to print money, the banks wanted collateral. You are that collateral. A classic book on this topic is The Coming Battle by Martin W. Walbert, published in 1899.

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Miller said:

"The power of taxation is the power to destroy. No man who is endowed with a modest sum of intelligence would advocate a transfer of this immense power to a private corporation for its gain. It would amount to the self-destruction of the nation. No sane man would advocate the delegation of this high attribute of sovereignty to a corporation for its individual gain and such transfer of power would inevitably result in frightful oppression."
Here are some more details for those who are doing homework: "Hypothecation" is a banking term. "Hypothecation" is defined in Section 14(a) of the Federal Reserve Act as an offer of assets owned by a party other than the borrower as collateral for a loan, without transferring title. The United States is the borrower. You are the party other than the borrower. On your behalf, and with your consent, your representatives borrow most of your national debt from the Federal Reserve Bank. Section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act (12 USC 411) says that Federal Reserve Notes are obligations of the United States. This is true even if the Federal Reserve is not a government agency, because the government has promised to repay the loans to this privately owned corporation. Federal Reserve Notes are backed by the full faith and credit of hypothecated assets (such as your future labor). According to the Legislative History of Public Law 94-564 "The U.S. commitment to redeem international dollars for gold became a physical impossibility". That's right! Your bankrupt government cannot repay Foreign lenders their gold. They will soon claim their collateral. You are the collateral.
The following quote should answer any doubt that you have regarding the legitimacy of the chains attached to receiving benefits. US Supreme Court in Murdock v. Pennsylvania 319 US 105 at page 140: "The ultimate question in determining the constitutionality of a tax measure is -- has the state given something for which it can ask a return?"

Let's review the legal maxims. Protection draws subjection. The very definition of allegiance means you are obligated to obedience if you accept protection. The state has given something for which it can ask a return. A pledge of allegiance binds (Strong's H2254.) you as collateral. You grant the power of attorney if you allow them to manage your affairs because it is presumed that you cannot manage yourself. Christ said that benefactors exercise authority. You agree to obey your benefactors, no matter how evil they become. While you are in their house, you obey their rules. If you cannot govern yourself, others will govern you. No matter how much they demand. Whether you like it or not.

Now you understand that a pledge of allegiance binds you, and allegiance is an obligation to government in exchange for benefits, and that government was created (fabricated as an image) and receives worship and is a benefactor/provider. Perhaps you've worshiped the wrong provider.




STATE CITIZEN

State citizens ratified your Constitution to create your federal government. They are responsible for managing their creation. These citizens are sovereigns, and the legislature cannot and does not write laws for their masters (Matt 10:24, and John 15:20). Never could, still can't. You won't understand this yet, but State Citizens are not subject to the laws written by congress (see Appendix D). According to your Supreme Court in the Mulligan case, state courts must protect you from federal laws.

If you can be tricked into applying for benefits, you then become subject to their statutes. Whether you like it or not. No matter how evil they become.

The difference in citizenship is distinguished by whichever law of the land applies to you. State constitutions are founded on Christian principles. But, according to a Treaty signed by President Adams "... the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion ...." More about this later.




EMPLOYEE

An employee is someone (as is an indentured servant) who gives up legal rights to his labor in exchange for care and protection. The same people who own the IRS own his labor rights.

More about this later. But you won't like it.


Colossians 2:8 (NIV): "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ."
http://crosstheborder.org/ss-motb/Chap15.htm
 

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You are trying to prove to me that 9/11 was an inside job.

In other words you are also trying to prove that there was no enemies behind the attack on 9/11.

So who is an enemy of the US then ?
I am not trying to prove anything to anyone, including you. I don't care whether or not people agree because I was stating my opinion on the possible causes of building collapse, and the jet fuel theory just doesn't quite explain it.

I made no mention of who made the building collapse or why it was done--because who or why has nothing to do with the discussion, which is 'how'. For some unknown reason you kept drawing conclusions that you thought I had arrived at but really were the product of your own thinking process.

Uh just so you know all videos that are put out saying no planes hit the towers are all disinfo meant to hurt the 9/11 Truth movement, they have all been discredited by eyewitness testimony and common sense.

But the controlled demolition of the twin towers and Building 7 is real and true. That is what must be exposed.
It's definitely possible some of the TV clips were doctored, although I've also heard live reporters say they saw no planes when the 2nd tower 'exploded', which of course could also be fake. One never knows what the agenda behind is. That's why I mentioned that we will probably never know for sure. lol.
 

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Colossians 2:8 (NIV): "See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ."
http://crosstheborder.org/ss-motb/Chap15.htm
Oh man, this isn't dead yet? I am sorry for my part.

Two pages of drivel from some quack evangelist is proof of how Americans are all slaves to the government (and to the government's masters, too, I guess). Requiring a driver's license is an infringement of rights? Oh man, I hope you studied his interpretation of Leviticus, too.
 

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Oh man, this isn't dead yet? I am sorry for my part.

Two pages of drivel from some quack evangelist is proof of how Americans are all slaves to the government (and to the government's masters, too, I guess). Requiring a driver's license is an infringement of rights? Oh man, I hope you studied his interpretation of Leviticus, too.
I just copied and pasted. I'm not catholic. Why do you bother? Your not wanted here so go away......
 

LightBearer

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Exactly. This applies to all the drivel you post.



??? Neither is the quack internet preacher you posted so extensively ??? or do you mean you are a whacko fundamentalist too?



I don't have a good answer to that one....
I dont copy and paste everything. Why are you so obssesed with everything I say?
 

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I am not trying to prove anything to anyone, including you. I don't care whether or not people agree because I was stating my opinion on the possible causes of building collapse, and the jet fuel theory just doesn't quite explain it.

I made no mention of who made the building collapse or why it was done--because who or why has nothing to do with the discussion, which is 'how'. For some unknown reason you kept drawing conclusions that you thought I had arrived at but really were the product of your own thinking process.

It's definitely possible some of the TV clips were doctored, although I've also heard live reporters say they saw no planes when the 2nd tower 'exploded', which of course could also be fake. One never knows what the agenda behind is. That's why I mentioned that we will probably never know for sure. lol.
By stating your opinion on this thread:rolleyes: you are trying to prove a point wether you like it or not.

So if you think that building 7 was blown up intentionally then I have a tinfoil hat for you, with your name on it.;)
 

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By stating your opinion on this thread:rolleyes: you are trying to prove a point wether you like it or not.

So if you think that building 7 was blown up intentionally then I have a tinfoil hat for you, with your name on it.;)
Nothing but insults, seriously dude wake up ok?
 

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Enough, already

 

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I dont copy and paste everything. Why are you so obssesed with everything I say?
Right. Sometimes you just post links to the drivel, and sometimes you just use the "Copy and Paste" function of your brain. You read something on one of your approved truther sites, and it just comes straight out without any thought.

I can only guess why I bother to reply to your posts; I guess that I just can't let it go without pointing out what a useless waste of space it is.

Also, I suppose I think that your version of reality is as harmful as that of the mindless pap in the mainstream media. When one is mis-focused on garbage, it distracts from the very real problems we have.
 

LightBearer

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Right. Sometimes you just post links to the drivel, and sometimes you just use the "Copy and Paste" function of your brain. You read something on one of your approved truther sites, and it just comes straight out without any thought.

I can only guess why I bother to reply to your posts; I guess that I just can't let it go without pointing out what a useless waste of space it is.

Also, I suppose I think that your version of reality is as harmful as that of the mindless pap in the mainstream media. When one is mis-focused on garbage, it distracts from the very real problems we have.
Well if you'd actually pay attention to Alex Jones reading documents from the library of congress, IMF, World Bank documents etc... you'd know what reality is.
 

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Hank, let's go for a beer. Lightbearer, go get laid, write a review so I can read something useful.
 

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Now these two nutcases are probably thinking the other is conspiring against them.

Let's give both of them guns so they can both get rid of each other and the rest of us can get back to pooning.
 

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Right. Sometimes you just post links to the drivel, and sometimes you just use the "Copy and Paste" function of your brain. You read something on one of your approved truther sites, and it just comes straight out without any thought.

I can only guess why I bother to reply to your posts; I guess that I just can't let it go without pointing out what a useless waste of space it is.

Also, I suppose I think that your version of reality is as harmful as that of the mindless pap in the mainstream media. When one is mis-focused on garbage, it distracts from the very real problems we have.

Hank, I'm with you.

While lighthead is entitled to his opinion, no matter how whacked out it is, I don't think the spirit of the board is to hi-jack so many threads to spread his demented world view.

He has started way too many threads on all his conspiracy bullshit, ie 9/11, NWO, Fema concentration camps, etc, and anyone, and I mean anyone who puts any credence on Alex Jones is an imbecile.

To you lighthead, if you really have the open mind you say you have, go and google debunking Alex Jones, debunking 9/11. This total complete nonsense you post has been debunked so many times and so many ways, not to mention that the so called 9/11 truthers have never put forth 1 shread of evidence to support their claims. All they have are threories, and then try to put the pieces of the puzzle together to FIT their theories. Any information or facts that are contradictory, they convieniently omit.

You would have thought he learned a lesson when he was Silky.

Now, having said all that, as mentioned before, you are entitled to your beliefs, but trying to shove it down our throats is not acceptable.

There are so many 9/11 sights you could post away on, engage in debate, although I don't like your chances of ever winning one.

This is an escort review board, yes it has the lounge to discuss things, but it certainly isn't your little playground to keep posting garbage.

So lighthead, get a life, go get laid, write a review, but for heavans sake, enough of all your conspiracy nonsense. Besides, shouldn't you be building your survivalist camp. Don't you want to be prepared when the government starts putting the population in concentration camps. Go get your guns together, your food water, power supply and go away.
 

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Now these two nutcases are probably thinking the other is conspiring against them.

Let's give both of them guns so they can both get rid of each other and the rest of us can get back to pooning.
I am all in agreement with you on getting back to pooning, but don't put Hank in the same catagory as lighthead. Save that for deberry and some of the other tin foil hat wearers. If you have read any of his posts, you would know he has intelligent things to add to the threads he posts in, which is more than I can say for a number of posters out there.
 

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Having read your comment and having gone back and re-read Hank's posts, I agree with you. My apologies for lumping you in with a bad bunch, Hank.

I am all in agreement with you on getting back to pooning, but don't put Hank in the same catagory as lighthead. Save that for deberry and some of the other tin foil hat wearers. If you have read any of his posts, you would know he has intelligent things to add to the threads he posts in, which is more than I can say for a number of posters out there.
 

LightBearer

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Hank, I'm with you.

While lighthead is entitled to his opinion, no matter how whacked out it is, I don't think the spirit of the board is to hi-jack so many threads to spread his demented world view.

He has started way too many threads on all his conspiracy bullshit, ie 9/11, NWO, Fema concentration camps, etc, and anyone, and I mean anyone who puts any credence on Alex Jones is an imbecile.

To you lighthead, if you really have the open mind you say you have, go and google debunking Alex Jones, debunking 9/11. This total complete nonsense you post has been debunked so many times and so many ways, not to mention that the so called 9/11 truthers have never put forth 1 shread of evidence to support their claims. All they have are threories, and then try to put the pieces of the puzzle together to FIT their theories. Any information or facts that are contradictory, they convieniently omit.

You would have thought he learned a lesson when he was Silky.

Now, having said all that, as mentioned before, you are entitled to your beliefs, but trying to shove it down our throats is not acceptable.

There are so many 9/11 sights you could post away on, engage in debate, although I don't like your chances of ever winning one.

This is an escort review board, yes it has the lounge to discuss things, but it certainly isn't your little playground to keep posting garbage.

So lighthead, get a life, go get laid, write a review, but for heavans sake, enough of all your conspiracy nonsense. Besides, shouldn't you be building your survivalist camp. Don't you want to be prepared when the government starts putting the population in concentration camps. Go get your guns together, your food water, power supply and go away.
Popular Mechanics debunked...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WULRQCgvsdE&feature=related
 

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And you guys still cant give ONE example of another building collapsing at free fall speed. Remeber when they used to use wrecking balls to knocked over buildings? Even then they never collapsed into dust.
 
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