Batons and taser, no mention of pepper spray. And if it went thru a stab proof vest it was far from being a little exacto knife. And he was by himself.
First, if a taser didn't stop the guy, are you really stupid enough to think that pepper spray would have? Second, try again with your reading comprehension. Nowhere in that story did it say that he was stabbed through a stab proof vest. Just that he was stabbed and killed while wearing a stab proof vest. By far the most likely conclusion is that he was stabbed somewhere that the vest didn't cover. Like his neck, perhaps. So tell me again how a cop facing a guy with a knife should just hit him in the leg with a baton...
Hey wait a minute wess, this didn't just happen. This happened almost 2 years ago! The point (that lightbearer is full of shit when he says a cop facing a guy with a knife shouldn't shoot) is still valid, but please get your facts straight.
Ok READ MY POST AGAIN ASSHOLE!
1 on 1 a cop should use his gun. 2 on 1 like we saw here 2 days ago they could have tried the baton option before the gun.
Fuck, I assumed it was current because the story is on yahoo news right now. Anyway it proves that cops have every rite to shoot if they are being threatened. Lightbearer is just worried that he might be shot at an alex jones freak show rally.
Again you fail at basic reading comprehension:
Tell me again how when it's 2 vs 1 it's safe for an officer to take down a knife-wielding man with a baton... Hell, in the case in Luton it was at least 3 cops (since the cop who was killed was with a number of other officers at the time) vs. one guy with a knife. So please do explain how you're not talking out of your ass.BBC news said:
What's the matter lightbearer? Backed yourself into a corner with your idiotic "2 vs 1 should use a baton" and can't think of a way to get out of it now that you know that it was 3 or more vs 1 and the cop using a baton still got killed?
That article barrely gave any details they arrived and he got stabbed, what happened in between. And I doubt it was a little exacto knife.... But they did try to restrain him, but did he still have the knife?What's the matter lightbearer? Backed yourself into a corner with your idiotic "2 vs 1 should use a baton" and can't think of a way to get out of it now that you know that it was 3 or more vs 1 and the cop using a baton still got killed?
And you're really dumb enough to think that an x-acto knife to the carotid artery won't kill you just as dead as a bigger knife to the same spot? Face it. It's been proved that you're a moron for saying that a cop should just hit a knife-wielding man with a baton.
I mean it's not like if you go up against a guy with a knife in close quarters you almost always get cut... Oh wait, anyone who has faced a guy with knife will tell you differently. Anyone with any hand-to-hand training will tell you differently.Hmm, that's true. Actually reading it again, that probably is describing how they restrained him after he had already stabbed the cop.
Well you hit them first hopefull you can hit the arm holding the weapon and they drop it. If they don't or continue then you should shoot them, the baton wasn't a clear enough message. But it depends on the situation sometimes you have time to tell suspect to stop others you have to react right away.
If I infer your hypothesis correctly - that the use of firearms makes policing safer - then you should think through your argument more thoroughly.
Again spoken like somebody who has absolutely no understanding of how fast these things can play out. If you don't swing first and hit the weapon out of his hand on the first hit (and don't think I don't notice that you're quietly changing your tune from "hit him on the leg") then you're getting cut. End of story. And 90% of the time even if you're well trained, you're not going to disarm the guy with your first swing.
Go re read my post. Quit twisting everything I say like Hank does....Again spoken like somebody who has absolutely no understanding of how fast these things can play out. If you don't swing first and hit the weapon out of his hand on the first hit (and don't think I don't notice that you're quietly changing your tune from "hit him on the leg") then you're getting cut. End of story. And 90% of the time even if you're well trained, you're not going to disarm the guy with your first swing.
So basically, if your first swing doesn't do it, you're fucked. You might still be able to take him down, but you're going to get cut, and there's no way you'll have time to change your mind and shoot him after the first swing of the baton doesn't work. Or are you relying on the guy with the knife to not try to stab/slash you, and to give you plenty of time to back off and draw your gun?
Tell me again about your 2 blackbelts...
