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Debunking the Federal Reserve Conspiracy Theories

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BY: Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. Department of Economics College of Charleston.

Facts: Yes, the Federal Reserve banks are privately owned, but they are controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors. The Federal Reserve banks merely execute the monetary policy choices made by the Board. In addition, nearly all the interest the Federal Reserve collects on government bonds is rebated to the Treasury each year, so the government does not pay any net interest to the Fed.

Facts: No foreigners own any part of the Fed. Each Federal Reserve bank is owned exclusively by the participating commercial banks and S&Ls operating within the Federal Reserve bank's district. Individuals and non-bank firms, be they foreign or domestic, are not permitted by law to own any shares of a Federal Reserve bank. Moreover, monetary policy is controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors, not by the Federal Reserve banks.

Fact: Independent accounting firms conduct full financial audits of the Federal Reserve banks and the Board of Governors every year. The Fed is also subject to certain types of audits from the Government Accounting Office.

Facts: The Federal Reserve rebates its net earnings to the Treasury every year. Consequently, the interest the Treasury pays to the Fed is returned, so the money borrowed from the Fed has no net interest obligation for the Treasury. The government could print its own currency independent of the Fed, but there would be no effective safeguards against abuse of this power for political gain.

Facts: The Federal Reserve banks have only a small share of the total national debt (about 7%). Therefore, only a small share of the interest on the debt goes to the Fed. Regardless, the Fed rebates that interest to the Treasury every year, so the debt held by the Fed carries no net interest obligation for the government. In addition, it is Congress, not the Federal Reserve, who is responsible for the federal budget and the national debt.

Facts: Kennedy wrote E.O. 11,110 to phase out silver certificate currency, not to issue more of it. Records show Kennedy and the Federal Reserve were almost always in agreement on policy matters. He even signed legislation to give the Fed more authority to issue currency.

Facts: McFadden was incorrect regarding the Fed costing the government money. However, later economic analysis agrees with him that Federal Reserve policy blunders had a substantial role in causing the Depression. However, his implication that this was done deliberately has no basis in fact. Moreover, for a dozen years prior to his rant, McFadden had been the chairman of the House subcommittee that oversaw the Federal Reserve. Why didn't he do anything to reform or abolish the Fed while he had the chance?

Facts: The banking system is indeed able to create money with a mere computer keystroke. However, a bank's ability to create money is tied directly to the amount of reserves customers have deposited there. A bank must pay a competitive interest rate on those deposits to keep them from leaving to other banks. This interest expense alone is a substantial portion of a bank's operating costs and is de facto proof a bank cannot costlessly create money.

Fact: The term 'lawful money' does not refer to gold or silver coin, but to types of money which the government would permit banks to use when tabulating their reserves. These types of money included, but were not limited to, gold and silver coin.

BY: Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. Department of Economics College of Charleston, S.C.


Myth #1: The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was crafted by Wall Street bankers and a few senators in a secret meeting.


Myth #2: The Federal Reserve Act never actually passed Congress. The Senate voted on the bill without a quorum, so the Act is null and void.


Myth# 3: The Federal Reserve Act and paper money are unconstitutional


Myth# 4: The Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank


Myth #5: The Federal Reserve is owned and controlled by foreigners.


Myth #6: The Federal Reserve has never been audited.


Myth #7: The Federal Reserve charges interest on the currency we use.


Myth #8: If it were not for the Federal Reserve charging the government interest, the budget would be balanced and we would have no national debt.


Myth #9: President Kennedy was assassinated because he tried to usurp the Federal Reserve's power. Executive Order 11,110 proves it


The Legendary Tirade of Louis T. McFadden






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A Brief History of Central Banking in the United States



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United States Monetary Policy

What is monetary policy?
Monetary policy is a central bank's actions to influence the availability and cost of money and credit, as a means of helping to promote national economic goals.
 

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Heres Alan Greenspan with some FACTS.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...AOX1uXCAQ&q=greenspan+admits+power+over&hl=en

The Creature From Jekyl Island
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...qAOEw9TCAQ&q=creature+from+jekyl+island&hl=en

The book itself
http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212 read reader comments

Notice how he didnt provide any information to back up any "myths" just believe him because he said so or believe the evidence I present.

http://sonic.net/sentinel/naij2.html
 

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Heres Alan Greenspan with some FACTS.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...AOX1uXCAQ&q=greenspan+admits+power+over&hl=en

The Creature From Jekyl Island
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...qAOEw9TCAQ&q=creature+from+jekyl+island&hl=en

The book itself
http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212 read reader comments

Notice how he didnt provide any information to back up any "myths" just believe him because he said so or believe the evidence I present.

http://sonic.net/sentinel/naij2.html
What you call evidence is all strait from the mouth of the tradgedy profiteer himself, alex jones.
 

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Conspiracy theorists have long viewed the Federal Reserve Act as a means of giving control of the banking system to the money trusts, when in reality the intent and effect was to wrestle control away from them. History clearly demonstrates that in the decades prior to the Federal Reserve Act the decisions of a few large New York banks had, at times, enormous repercussions for banks throughout the country and the economy in general. Following the return to central banking, at least some measure of control was removed from them and placed with the Federal Reserve.

References:

1. Davidson, James West, Mark A. Lytle, et al, (1998), Nation of Nations, New York: McGraw-Hill.

2. Galbraith, John K. (1995), Money: Whence it Came, Where it Went, Boston: Houghton Mifflin.

3. Greider, William (1987), Secrets of the Temple, New York: Simon & Schuster.

4. Griffin, G. Edward (1995), The Creature from Jekyll Island, Appleton: American Opinion Publishing, Inc.

5. Kidwell, David S. and Richard Peterson (1997), Financial Institutions, Markets, and Money, 6th edition, Fort Worth: Dryden Press.

6. "Wilson Signs the Currency Bill," New York Times, pages 1-2, December 24, 1913.
 

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I haven't had time to look up the rest of your assertions, but here is the direct quote regarding currency from http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm#con1.10.1

Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

That would seem to contradict Myth #3 as being a myth. I don't know enough about the American political system to know how they end-arounded their constitution like that though.
 

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What you call evidence is all strait from the mouth of the tradgedy profiteer himself, alex jones.
Profiteer how? Working 14 hours per day? Death threats? Trying to make enough money to pay his 14 member staff? Are they allowed to eat, put a roof over there heads? Meanwhile Alex says "copy my films and put them on google". How can you profit from that? Wake up...
 

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Conspiracy theorists have long viewed the Federal Reserve Act as a means of giving control of the banking system to the money trusts, when in reality the intent and effect was to wrestle control away from them. History clearly demonstrates that in the decades prior to the Federal Reserve Act the decisions of a few large New York banks had, at times, enormous repercussions for banks throughout the country and the economy in general. Following the return to central banking, at least some measure of control was removed from them and placed with the Federal Reserve.

References:

1. Davidson, James West, Mark A. Lytle, et al, (1998), Nation of Nations, New York: McGraw-Hill.

2. Galbraith, John K. (1995), Money: Whence it Came, Where it Went, Boston: Houghton Mifflin.

3. Greider, William (1987), Secrets of the Temple, New York: Simon & Schuster.

4. Griffin, G. Edward (1995), The Creature from Jekyll Island, Appleton: American Opinion Publishing, Inc.

5. Kidwell, David S. and Richard Peterson (1997), Financial Institutions, Markets, and Money, 6th edition, Fort Worth: Dryden Press.

6. "Wilson Signs the Currency Bill," New York Times, pages 1-2, December 24, 1913.
Then why would Alan Greenspan say this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...AOX1uXCAQ&q=greenspan+admits+power+over&hl=en
 

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I haven't had time to look up the rest of your assertions, but here is the direct quote regarding currency from http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm#con1.10.1

Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

That would seem to contradict Myth #3 as being a myth. I don't know enough about the American political system to know how they end-arounded their constitution like that though.
The Constitutional Basis for Central Banking

First, the constitution grants the Congress the rights to regulate money. Specifically, it has the right to coin money and regulate its value. It is not clear from the constitution or the Federalist Papers what the authors meant by the term 'value.' Traditionally, it has meant the weight and metallic content of the coin. No one challenges this interpretation. On the other hand, the only relevant meaning of 'value' in the context of money is its value in trade, also known as its purchasing power. This a government cannot regulate merely by an Act of Congress. The government's only tool for regulating this latter value is altering the money supply.

Second, Congress has the right to regulate interstate commerce. Banking and other financial services clearly involves interstate commerce as the courts have come to define it.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Congress has the right to make any law that is 'necessary and proper' for the execution of its enumerated powers (Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 18). A law creating a Bureau of the Mint, for example, is necessary and proper for the Congress to exercise its right to coin money. A similar argument may justify a central bank. It facilitates the expansion and contraction of the money supply and it serves as means to regulate the banking industry.
 

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The Constitutional Basis for Central Banking

First, the constitution grants the Congress the rights to regulate money. Specifically, it has the right to coin money and regulate its value. It is not clear from the constitution or the Federalist Papers what the authors meant by the term 'value.' Traditionally, it has meant the weight and metallic content of the coin. No one challenges this interpretation. On the other hand, the only relevant meaning of 'value' in the context of money is its value in trade, also known as its purchasing power. This a government cannot regulate merely by an Act of Congress. The government's only tool for regulating this latter value is altering the money supply.

Second, Congress has the right to regulate interstate commerce. Banking and other financial services clearly involves interstate commerce as the courts have come to define it.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, Congress has the right to make any law that is 'necessary and proper' for the execution of its enumerated powers (Art. I, Sec. 8, Cl. 18). A law creating a Bureau of the Mint, for example, is necessary and proper for the Congress to exercise its right to coin money. A similar argument may justify a central bank. It facilitates the expansion and contraction of the money supply and it serves as means to regulate the banking industry.
Alan Greenspan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...AOX1uXCAQ&q=greenspan+admits+power+over&hl=en
 

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Thats the whole fucking point of the federal reserve. Keep the government cronies out. Each Federal Reserve bank is owned exclusively by the participating commercial banks and S&Ls operating within the Federal Reserve bank's district. Individuals and non-bank firms, be they foreign or domestic, are not permitted by law to own any shares of a Federal Reserve bank. Moreover, monetary policy is controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors, not by the Federal Reserve banks.
 

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Thats the whole fucking point of the federal reserve. Keep the government cronies out. Each Federal Reserve bank is owned exclusively by the participating commercial banks and S&Ls operating within the Federal Reserve bank's district. Individuals and non-bank firms, be they foreign or domestic, are not permitted by law to own any shares of a Federal Reserve bank. Moreover, monetary policy is controlled by the publically-appointed Board of Governors, not by the Federal Reserve banks.
He said the Federal Reserve deosnt answer to congress or the president. And why has the Fed never been audited? If it has then why is a bill being introduced to do so?
http://current.com/items/89863154/bill_to_audit_the_federal_reserve.htm
 

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Why do you two guys care about what the US is doing? It's as if you two are being paid by the Conservative Party to distract us from what is going on in Canadian politics. Focus on that which is relevent to us...since this is Canada.
 

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You did notice the depression is global right? Exposing how the Fed works will wake people up to how there own corrupt monetary system works.
 

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You did notice the depression is global right? Exposing how the Fed works will wake people up to how there own corrupt monetary system works.
Of course. Maybe it's time for you to educate us in what the Canadian monetary system is doing with our money, and why the news media is crying that we're all doomed when I still see people out there still working and buying and driving?

Can the US shit...which is interesting, but nothing we can do to effect change since we're not citizens of the US. Look into the Canadian monetary system and how the Canadian banks are taking a big bite out of US banking market...RBC is one bank that is raking in the $$$.

This is a challenge to you to see if you can investigate something that is a bit off your beaten path, blazed by your Alex Jones.
 

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Of course. Maybe it's time for you to educate us in what the Canadian monetary system is doing with our money, and why the news media is crying that we're all doomed when I still see people out there still working and buying and driving?

Can the US shit...which is interesting, but nothing we can do to effect change since we're not citizens of the US. Look into the Canadian monetary system and how the Canadian banks are taking a big bite out of US banking market...RBC is one bank that is raking in the $$$.

This is a challenge to you to see if you can investigate something that is a bit off your beaten path, blazed by your Alex Jones.
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2006/01/15/globalization_and_the_bank_of_canada.htm
 

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Why do you two guys care about what the US is doing? It's as if you two are being paid by the Conservative Party to distract us from what is going on in Canadian politics. Focus on that which is relevent to us...since this is Canada.
The US economy is relevant to us...if "she" goes down..."we" go down...
 

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I agree it is very relevant...maybe I ought to have stated it better. What I meant is I wanna see more about what concerns us directly....that we can do something about. What about the crap that's happening right on our doorstep with an unelected comittee who's about to tax us so they have more money. Translink is about to tax us without representation, which is against the Charter. No one voted this group in to represent any British Columbian who pays taxes, works for a living or drives a car....or takes a bus.

We're about to get fucked in the ass and we're worried about what might be happening in the US? Let's get our priorities straightened out before we worry about what Obama is doing, what Bush did, and what Alex is saying.
 

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I agree it is very relevant...maybe I ought to have stated it better. What I meant is I wanna see more about what concerns us directly....that we can do something about. What about the crap that's happening right on our doorstep with an unelected comittee who's about to tax us so they have more money. Translink is about to tax us without representation, which is against the Charter. No one voted this group in to represent any British Columbian who pays taxes, works for a living or drives a car....or takes a bus.

We're about to get fucked in the ass and we're worried about what might be happening in the US? Let's get our priorities straightened out before we worry about what Obama is doing, what Bush did, and what Alex is saying.
No kidding eh. I've been having to double check that I'm on a Canadian board here not US. We've got enough of our own problems.
 

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I agree it is very relevant...maybe I ought to have stated it better. What I meant is I wanna see more about what concerns us directly....that we can do something about. What about the crap that's happening right on our doorstep with an unelected comittee who's about to tax us so they have more money. Translink is about to tax us without representation, which is against the Charter. No one voted this group in to represent any British Columbian who pays taxes, works for a living or drives a car....or takes a bus.

We're about to get fucked in the ass and we're worried about what might be happening in the US? Let's get our priorities straightened out before we worry about what Obama is doing, what Bush did, and what Alex is saying.
Canada is not in too bad of shape. We have gold and oil reserves. Royal bank was the 55th best capitalised bank in the world before, now its 5th. The federal government is not broke. Alberta is debt free.

Vancouver is another story. When the fuck are they going to elect a mayor with some brains ? Vancouver needs a guy like Rudy Giuliani to clean things up.

 
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