Dobbs: Obama setting up New World Order
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I mean you say the Bush's didnt know up until the planes hit. Alex Jones, Bill Cooper, Freeman and some more all knew months before. Theres videos on google. Bush jr isnt smart enough to tie his shoes let alone plot 9/11. Could talk to Karl Rove who Bush calls "the architect" CNN calls him Bush's brain. And we know Karl Rove is above the law with him being subpoenad and not showing up.
LB...this is why I scoff. You 'read' Hank's post, but you won't consider other avenues of opinion that might support your posts.
I have tried to talk some sense into this guy on the zietgiest fans thread. Lightbearer thinks that if he peddles this stuff faster then the other side can counter it then he will still win over some of the less educated people. Unfortunatly he is right and thats why if I was a moderator I would tell him to stop making so many similar topics or else get banned.
You realize that these people agree with me to some degree yet your playing this argument like a kid picking sides. Your posts with your bullshit links are hardly genuine evidence. Meanwhile I can pull documents off the armys website, whitehouse.gov etc. Can you show me something more genuine than that? Google this and tell me its fake. 'Civilian Inmate Labour Program'. Can you spell FEMA camps? Now I know you CANT argue this so you've got nothing better than to tell me to put my tin foil hat on or take my meds, truth is your so sad its a waste of calories typing to you. Your a child got it? Time to accept the fact that you are wrong, you bought the corporate propaganda. I posted way back about 7-8 hrs of video in one post and you wess responded back within an hour calling it all "terrorist propaganda" .Yet here you are knocking me for speed reading Hanks post. Do you understand?
Thats why I choose the name..... When God told Adam and Eve not to eat the apple because you will die, yet Lucifer said no you will just have your eyes opened. Jehovah is a liar.
Hank... I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I am just curious about your comment: They didn't even have the resources to "find" weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, how could they have planned 9/11? 1) Was there any weapons to find in Iraq? 2) Who says that Bush was even involved, or even knew about the 9/11 attack? Judging by his actions that day I don't even think he knew what was going on.
1) No, I'm saying that if the evil conspiracists had the resources to 'plan' the 9/11 attacks (taking over the planes, planting the explosives to bring down the the towers, blah blah, more evil henchmen than a comic-strip supervillain, involvement of the military, blah blah) according to the many sites 'proving' this (and lightbearer's many previous posts), then 'finding' evidence of the weapons in Iraq would have been easy in comparison -- even if they had to plant them. Proving they were right would have been a tremendous public relations victory, and I was surprised at the time that they didn't find 'proof.' I am sure that Cheney etc. would have done so had they figured out a plan to get away with it.
2) I didn't imply that Bush was involved in planning 9/11 -- clearly he didn't have a clue. I am saying -- according to any credible source -- that his cronies/managers (Rove, Rumsfeld, Cheney, the industries that profit from war and disaster, etc.) had an agenda to attack and occupy Iraq well before 9/11, and that they clearly took advantage of the attacks to pursue that agenda -- implying that Sadam was in cahoots with Al-Quaeda in their speeches, taking advantage of a general fear of Islamic countries, and on and on. The evil conspiracy was the manipulation of public opinion in America, and the immense profits reaped by Haliburton and the rest of the military/industrial complex by the contracts involved. They also thought they would assure America's economic future, with an endless supply of oil from a grateful, liberated country.
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It's how people think, they get used to thinking a certain way, ie: George Bush is all about fighting the "evil-doers", Saddam H blew up the towers, child labour is a good for the economy, and Osama BL will drive his car bomb into your front window unless you vote Republican. I appreciate what Lightbearer is saying and it's amusing to see how his message is upseting those taken-for-granted assumptions of alot of people on here, that they get cranky, spitting vitroil, when challenged to think outside of their narrow minded view of the world.
General Dwight David Eisenhower
In his Farewell Address to the Nation on January 17, 1961, President Eisenhower said, "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
Food for thought.
By the way lb, thanks for turning me on to Bill Hicks. His commentaries stand up even today..
Regards
H
In his Farewell Address to the Nation on January 17, 1961, President Eisenhower said, "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."
Food for thought.
By the way lb, thanks for turning me on to Bill Hicks. His commentaries stand up even today..
Regards
H
Obama must go to Hell 
he was elected US President thanx to the Media and Mcain lost because the Bush Shadow.
he was elected US President thanx to the Media and Mcain lost because the Bush Shadow.Colbert interviews John King. "I wanna congratulate you and the rest of the media for getting Obama elected" Audience applauds. King Replies "If your point is that Obama is in for a New World Order then you are CORRECT"Obama must go to Hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c2g5KP4_MU
Truth hurts....
...And the rest of the interview? Conspiracy theorists do not have a patent on the phrase "new world order." The meaning, however, is not the same when it is used to describe a new direction in politics, where the US does not act unilaterally, and where it rejoins international institutions. It doesn't mean the black helicopters are coming and that the UN is going to invade Los Angeles. Heck, they're not even likely to rejoin the World Court (I'd love to see Cheney and Rumsfeld indicted for war crimes.)
And by the way, if you posted links to Bill Hicks in the past, then not all of your sources are bad. He was brilliant.
It's kinda like Republicans co-opting the word "liberal" to mean sissy fuzzy-thinking anti-amercans.
What I want to see reformed, however, are the international institutions like the IMF (no, not the Impossible Missions Force) that do more harm than good for everyone except the corporate elite.
Too bad they never took Eisenhower's warnings seriously. It's much harder to get rid of them now that they are entrenched in power.
They werent supposed to find WMD's to further discredit the Bush administration, which is why they let Bush being the moron that he is in. With all the sanctions theres no way Saddam could have WMD's. Bush is just bird cage liner they change every 4-8 years. So after 8 years of Bush lies the public will fall for the next puppet they introduce. All he has to do is say "change" and look different, take the suckers for one last ride. But problem with that is Obama has been over sold and he has a LOT of work to get done before the public catches on.
The New World Order was Hitler's second book, that's one reason I'm against it.
Yes but a couple of years ago if you mention NWO you'd be laughed at, now its on mainstream news. How much more of it is going to come out.
Why would you love to see Cheney indicted for war crimes ? Read up !
On November 8, 2002, the Security Council passed Resolution 1441 by a unanimous 15-0 vote; Russia, China, France, and Arab countries such as Syria voted in favor, giving Resolution 1441 wider support than even the 1990 Gulf War resolution.
What was UN resolution 1441 ?
Iraq under Saddam Hussein a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations that had been set out in several previous resolutions (Resolution 660, Resolution 661, Resolution 678, Resolution 686, Resolution 687, Resolution 688, Resolution 707, Resolution 715, Resolution 986, and Resolution 1284). [1]
What part of FINAL do you not understand ?
