Risk giving phone # to SP?

[FortunateOne]

Well, there seems to be lots of disagreement lol. Exactly how many sps do you call that call you back at inappropriate times? After all, with your super secret phone system, it doesn't matter that they do. So, exactly how many times has this happened, since apparently it happens frequently enough on your super secret pooning phone to warrant having a super secret pooning phone.

Come on, now. EXACTLY how often does the sp you call for info, or make an appt with, spend their time making unsolicited call backs to you guys who seem to have an issue with this?

 

[trackstar]

Well, there seems to be lots of disagreement lol. Exactly how many sps do you call that call you back at inappropriate times? After all, with your super secret phone system, it doesn't matter that they do. So, exactly how many times has this happened, since apparently it happens frequently enough on your super secret pooning phone to warrant having a super secret pooning phone.

Come on, now. EXACTLY how often does the sp you call for info, or make an appt with, spend their time making unsolicited call backs to you guys who seem to have an issue with this?

Do you really believe that if you argue your point long enough people will just come around? There was already one person on here that told you of an sp that sent a text regarding her specials, another post in a different thread where a dude used his work email to contact an sp and later that turned into a big problem.

It happens. Because it never happened to you the rest of the world follows suit? Even a Narcissist isn't that stupid. According to your argument, an unstable or just plain mean sp does not exist. There are many people out there that have had MULTIPLE partners without using condoms that have remained disease free. Based on that, are the people that use condoms just paranoid

As for stats, do a google search on hookers that blackmail their clients If that doesn't shut you up, then you are obviously just a troll

 

[Yman]

I've had many instances where I left a number with a request to call me at a specific time, or not at all, and low and behold i've been called when it suits them and not me......potentially embarassing. And then there have been times where I've called and I decided not to leave a number for the reason stated above. And because my number is on their call display I've received call backs...sometimes at very very strange hours. But I haven't encountered this problem lately.....I like to think I've learned better. And I'm still having lots of fun with quality women !!

And I suppose Fortunateone you'll assume I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel because I know you like to make assumptions, but I can say that's not the case.

Ever hear of Heidi Fleiss ? She kept phone numbers too.

Anymore sage advice from FortunateOne ?

 

[trackstar]

I've had many instances where I left a number with a request to call me at a specific time, or not at all, and low and behold i've been called when it suits them and not me......potentially embarassing. And then there have been times where I've called and I decided not to leave a number for the reason stated above. And because my number is on their call display I've received call backs...sometimes at very very strange hours. But I haven't encountered this problem lately.....I like to think I've learned better. And I'm still having lots of fun with quality women !!

And I suppose Fortunateone you'll assume I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel because I know you like to make assumptions, but I can say that's not the case.

Ever hear of Heidi Fleiss ? She kept phone numbers too.

Anymore sage advice from FortunateOne ?

Even irrefutable logic such as this will be ignored by him as well I am sure The people that need to will see the value in what you just said YMan

 

[FortunateOne]

And you heard from more than one actual reputable sp who never do this. And every one who says it happened to them, can't say it happens daily and often. As I pointed out, of 1/10,000. And you, yourself, ts, do not have an example of this ever happening to you. Which was my point.

And Yman, if you aren't encountering this problem "lately", doesn't that just confirm my point again?

And I'm not the one who can't simply let the statements alone, ts. You always seem to have a need to have the last word, as though that will somehow make it truer. Not enough that more than half of the posters say either they never make inappropriate callbacks, or have never received any or had any difficulty.

At some point, if sps continue to have trouble booking appts with ppl who want to use fake identities with prepaid cells and otherwise hide themselves from accountability, then there will be more sps requesting ID and referrals from pooners. The less trouble they get, even if it is something as simple as getting a call from an unblocked phone number with a name, the less trouble everyone is going to have in the future.

 

[AngelSkye]

As long as you are seeing a reputable sp, with good feedback I don't think you will run into any problems. Through I myself have had to call sps on cl, and received many callbacks from them since my number was on call display. I myself never callback. And only use your number for scheduling purposes. I may call if your late for a session, but as long as you tell me at the time of booking about your need for discretion. This won't be a problem.

 

[Yman]

And Yman, if you aren't encountering this problem "lately", doesn't that just confirm my point again?

Please explain how my current situation confirms the point you're trying to make. It will be interesting to see what you've extrapolated from my previous comment

 

[trackstar]

And you heard from more than one actual reputable sp who never do this. And every one who says it happened to them, can't say it happens daily and often. As I pointed out, of 1/10,000. And you, yourself, ts, do not have an example of this ever happening to you. Which was my point.

And Yman, if you aren't encountering this problem "lately", doesn't that just confirm my point again?

And I'm not the one who can't simply let the statements alone, ts. You always seem to have a need to have the last word, as though that will somehow make it truer. Not enough that more than half of the posters say either they never make inappropriate callbacks, or have never received any or had any difficulty.

At some point, if sps continue to have trouble booking appts with ppl who want to use fake identities with prepaid cells and otherwise hide themselves from accountability, then there will be more sps requesting ID and referrals from pooners. The less trouble they get, even if it is something as simple as getting a call from an unblocked phone number with a name, the less trouble everyone is going to have in the future.

Are you fucking slow??? IT DOESN"T HAVE TO HAPPEN DAILY! IF IT HAPPENS ONCE AND YOUR S/O OR BOSS FINDS OUT YOU ARE FUCKED!!!!

And you, yourself, ts, do not have an example of this ever happening to you. Which was my point.

Are you on crack??? I'm the one that said if you have a S/O you would have to be an idiot to give your home number to an sp! It has never, nor will ever happen to me, get it? And yet here I am still in the hobby. Jesus you're thick!

 

[trackstar]

And here is your chance to get the last word. I can't even look at this thread just knowing what an asinine response you are going to post. Have at 'er head case, here's your free shot

 

[mikster777]

Great debate and comments all, even some emotion in here. From what I take from this, better safe than sorry. Unfortunately my phone doesn't have a sim card, so I'll have to find another route, appreciate all your comments. As I'm not a regular, not sure that I'll invest in a second phone, little unsure how I can satisfy my curiosity and want to try some sp's for the first time though. I'm sure that the reputable sp's would never do anything on purpose to jeopardize their clients, boards such as this one may end their prosperity with such actions, but nevertheless, mistakes happen, #'s are stored in phones, blackberries, blackbooks etc and then, there are less than professional sp's out there I'm sure.....This phone # issue, in addition to scheduling benefits and ease, does certainly expose the pooner to some risk, question is how much and it is obviously a question that cannot definitively be answered. I'm always one to err on the side of caution (unluss I know the risk for sure), and want to find a sp that feels the same. Looking for a sp for the first time, I simply don't have the comfort level, even though I've picked an advertiser and highly regarded sp here, hopefully she will respond to my email.

 

[FortunateOne]

But I haven't encountered this problem lately.....I like to think I've learned better. And I'm still having lots of fun with quality women !!

From your words

 

[Yman]

From your words

Amazing !

My words only indicate that I haven't experienced problems with receiving unwanted call backs lately because I have learned from past experiences. I didn't say why this is but I see that you're more than willing to fill in the blanks with what you believe to be the reason.

The actual reason for this is that I communicate through e-mail and I block my number if I call. I don't give out my number. My e-mail communications seem to be sufficient in putting some providers at ease over meeting me. Must be my computer side manner...lol.

So you see my comments don't support your point at all.

 

[Restless]

A couple of years ago I witnessed (from the sidelines fortunately) the complete meltdown of a local SP and accomplice. I know of at least four clients that were outed. Names named, wives contacted, workplaces faxed with gruesome details. I did not learn of this 2nd or 3 rd hand. I saw the postings, PMs, and one of the faxes.

I personally have been contacted on my cell phone, out of the blue, while driving with my mother. I use the handsfree option most of the time. Fortunately I did'nt this time, or there would have been some severe embarrasment.

I have been single for several years, so giving out my cell # is a fairly low risk for me.

If you have a lot to lose, just a reminder that these things do happen.

 

[bcneil]

1 out of 10,000 will ever call you back unsolicited????

Well guess I am just lucky, I am at 3 out of about 20.
Including 2 "reputable" advertisers on this very site.

Once it was semi my fault, I mentioned I lived only a 5 minute walk away.
However I didn't know that meant to call me, whenever she had a noshow.

 

[Katlyn]

Thanks all, and Anna, that's basically my frame of mind as well. I was looking up one SP that indicated she wanted to see photo ID upon arrival matching the name and # given, and that seemed a little extreme. I just basically want to be nice, respectful, pay for good service and remain basically anonymous. I do realize that the SP's do take a huge risk (with a certain portion of society), but I'm not one of them, and just want a friendly, no-risk meeting that both can enjoy.

I'll let this thread sink now, think I've heard what I wanted to, appreciate all the comments and thoughts.....

Mikster, aka Bono, Sting, Moneyman.....(one suggestion was to hide your real name lol)

I am one of the ones that requires ID (name & photo must match but they can cover the address, I don't care) or references for all clients. Many SPs only require an unblocked number for incall. The reason the unblocked number is used is for security, the idea is that then if something happens to the girl the police or whoever will have the guy's phone number. Nowadays with pre-paid phones this is false security. As a test when I set up my prepaid phone I paid in cash at the store and when I called to activate it, even though I was told I would have to provide my SIN I was never asked for it and I gave them a fake name and address.

There is ABSOLUTELY no security in getting a client's phone number anymore and I think it is really unfortunate that many SPs still think there is. They say they won't answer blocked calls because it is unsafe but it is exactly the same as other calls. There are some SPs who do not care about the phone number because their incall location is locked down with lots of cameras in the halls and at the front door and most of these SPs will tell you not to wear a hat when you arrive so that the cameras can see you and will not let you in if their video monitor of the condo's front door shows you are hiding your face when you buzz. Others go to hotels where the walls are thin and there are cameras in the halls, elevator, etc.

SPs have to take precautions to try to gaurantee their safety, or at the very least document the person that caused them harm. There are lots of reasons for this and your fear of an SP having your name, or phone number, or whatever policy it is that she has to protect her own well being is not going to convince her to lax her policies. This is a dangerous job. I read one study that said the mortality rate for prostitutes was 391 per 100K whereas for the general population it is only 1.9 per 100K. Will I lax my policies? Never and I really hope other women stop using phones as a form of security unless it is a listed number with a name associated in the phone book.

Honestly, if you are really terrified of sharing contact info lest you accidentally (or purposely) be contacted by the SP, the safest thing is to show ID or go to an SP who's incall is locked down, but of course you have to trust that the SP is not keeping your name or the video, which most do not past that initial safe appointment...we don't want anyone to know who we've seen as much as you do not want anyone knowing who you've seen. Or alternatively go to a parlour. There are AMPs and there is also the Fox Den, several indy's started at the Den, there are a lot of quality women there.

As for those that mentioned blackmail, if you are that scared of blackmail then you probably shouldn't be doing this at all. Even if you try to be annonymous all someone has to do is follow you one day to figure out who you are if they really wanted to blackmail you.

So to stick to the original question, if you don't want to go to a parlour but are afraid of an SP contacting you, make your initial contact via email with an email account that you set up specifically for this purpose and is totally private and secret. Go with SPs who prefer email contact, I do as well as Isabelle and there are others I just can't think of them right now. And make sure the SP is well-reviewed with no drama on the boards and you can trust that she will not call you back. Or alternatively get a pay as you go phone and use that though the honest truth is I believe it is deceitful as the woman is believing that it is a safe security measure.

I understand clients' fears of an SP ruining their family life, and the fact that this has happened and that is really unfortunate, but I'm risking my living breathing life by letting you into my home, the least you can do is trust me back.

 

[Diego]

re:

Pay as you go....for phones and woman!

 

[Violet]

I think the biggest risk here is not so much that an SP would call you when she's not asked to, or use your number to blackmail you etc, but that having her number show up on your phone bill, (which you foolishly leave lying around), could get you in trouble. Or also on your redial or "Recent Numbers Dialed" list on your phone. Suspicious women will snoop, & very often do wives/girlfriends phone asking agencies "what is this place?" or grilling indies about "how do you know my husband?" Most of us wouldn't answer truthfully, but you don't want to take the risk of raising SO's suspicions anyway,(especially if it's an agency that answers the phone with their name, like "Hello this is Handy Hookers", although many do not do so for exactly this reason).

A boss might also question it if the same number is showing up on your bill a lot & you are supposed to be using your cell SOLELY for work purposes.

Also, Trackstar, I thought he was talking about giving out his cell number unintentionally by calling from it, not telling an SP his home number? Did I miss something? (although, for that matter, if you are doing an outcall almost all SPs will require your home number).

The best advice, for anyone who IS using their cell phone to call SPs, is make sure you have a "non-detailed" bill - that means it doesn't show what numbers you called, or get your bill emailed to you instead. Make sure no one else (especially wifey) has access to your account to request a list of dialed numbers. And DELETE the number from your phone after you call it, remember some home phones save a listed of dialed numbers as well.

Also if you're worried, you can always politely ask the SP if she will be doing a call-back on your phone & if so, when exactly, or verify that she will never call her unless you ask her to. However the vast majority would never do that anyways.

Happy pooning


And I also agree with what Katlyn said:

I'm risking my living breathing life by letting you into my home, the least you can do is trust me back.

I think the SP is taking far more risk than most guys are, & in addition to safety, you have to remember, most SPs do not want anyone knowing they were paid to have sex with you any more than you want anyone knowing the reverse. Contrary to what a lot of paranoid guys seem to think, we are not going to go & tell everyone we know "Hey, I fucked John Smith for $200!" just for fun. Society views prostitutes even worse than it does clients, & I know this may come as a shock to many guys, but a lot of us AREN'T totally open with everyone in our lives about what we do for a living, & even those that are would not be at all sucessful in this business if they went around breaking client discretion.

I know of clients contacting ladies by phone when they are not supposed to (for example a lady who uses her personal phone as her work phone as well & requests that clients only call during certain hours), arriving at their homes or incall locations when they're not supposed to, shouting out their working names on the street, or even going up to the SP's husband or boyfriend & straight-up telling him that she is a prostitute or making it clear that he is one of her clients. Or worse. So the risks of sharing personal info go both ways.