lowering rates

[ihatemyskirt]

I just want some of the girls who may be worried about their money situation because of slow times right now, to know that there will be a shift in the pace soon. Thats how it always goes, the indies are busy for a bit then the agencies for a spell then the parlors and then the street girls and then back to the agencies again and so the cycle goes. Theres no need to lower your rates, clients are still abundant and your phone will ring again.

I think lowering your rate to below the industry standard is foul kinda and I believe that it also lowers the expectations of most people involved which never is good for a service industry like this.

I get worried when I see referral companies lowering their rates to one lower then a half hour rate for an hour gfe and I hope that there are still girls who stand by their rate and keep their heads up until the business evens out which it always does. Specials are fine on occasion but lowering rates is like lowering yourself and it isn't needed. This is just my opinion and you know how I like to push that envelope.

It is ok to be a fairly priced escort but if you can do service for half your regular rate then you must not be too confident in your service. Bring the fire.

 

[Evolve]

I'm sorry, I'm still new to this whole scene, but I don't see why you wouldn't lower your rates, if it brings in more money. You can always just raise them again, if you get too busy.
It seems to me that this business is like any other: supply and demand. I get the impression that this is the same logic used for having rates that were perceived as high in the past.
I don't see the need to turn this into a moral, political, or personal issue.
If you do think it's temporary, then you could even do things like: Summer Madness Sale! This week/month only! 25% off my normal rates!

That way, you can test the waters and see what happens.

 

[island-guy]

Price fixing might work with gasoline where there's only a certain number of stations, everyone needs gasoline and a random person can't just wake up one morning and be selling gasoline by lunchtime.

In this business, the following things hold true:

1) There is no limit on the number of competitors

2) It is a 'luxury item' which can be avoided if the price is too high or cash is short.

3) Half the population is capable of entering the business as quickly as they can put an ad on CL or take a walk down the nearest 'stroll'.

Ultimately if you want to maximize income, it boils down to supply and demand.

If on the other hand, you would rather have no income than work for less $, as might be the case with some for whom it is a hobby business, then you can set your rates wherever you want, but your phone may not ring much.

 

[tedsweettangv]

In the interest of Fairness

When pooners write in and complain that rates are too high and when one raises their rates all of them go up, lot's other people jump down their throat and say "SPs can charge whatever they want STFU".

I believe that yes SPs can charge what ever they want, but I am amused by a plea to have them not lower their rates. It is implied that if they start lowering their rates, everybody will have to. I guess I don't understand the plea if you really believe SPs should charge whatever they want. Just don't lower your rates.

The economy is taking a down turn, gas is very high and talking a larger portion of peoples disposable income. With the high price of gas, everything that requires shipping goes up. Pooners just have less to spend. I suspect the AMPS and Micros are going to get much busier.

 

[overdone]

What difference does it make to you? According to your thinking your not going to lower your rate no matter what, so why would it concern yourself with what someone else is charging it doesn't affect you. If you don't want to serve the < 300 club then don't, but don't you think that the ladies that are comfortable doing so should be able to so without you judging them. There are and always should be multiple options in different price ranges in any industry for it to be healthy and viable. If you want to share some of that altruistic attitude and financial wisdom why don't you find a charity to help.

No one should tell anybody else what to charge or pay for these type of activities, were all adults and can decide for ourselves.

 

[stryker]

Bring the fire.

You Can't be serious Drew,Ginger,Sharmon or what ever your calling yourself these days

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

When theres a slowdown in the economy the first goods to be imapacted are the most elastic ie the items you can do without and believe it or not banging hos falls under that category.

So feel free to live in la la land.

 

[FortunateOne]

There are lots of options available to those who don't want to slash their rates in half, but still have lower $ options. It can be temporary or ongoing, and if an sp actually has a conversation with the client, they can design a session that makes everyone happy:

half hour or 45 minute rates (& I don't mean a 250hh rate, but something that makes cents like 150-180).

Do more than just fs appts. Some just want r&t, or r&bj but there aren't so many options available for them.

ssog rate instead of msog (300hr msog or 250 ssog) There are a lot who don't want/need/look for msog.

basic services vs gfe, for those who don't want DATY, bbbjs anyway.

She doesn't have to cut her rates in half to get more business during the slow times, just be a little creative and flexible with the menu. Some people are happy to order off the menu, others pick and choose what they want.

 

[Willingham]

There is no such thing as a fairly priced escort. Only horny men who can't keep it zipped and will pay what it costs.

Have a nice day.

 

[lenharper]

this whole obsession of money and time etc, seems to me to take some of the fun out of the whole thing. i can't say I've ever gone to a session with a stopwatch or a calculator and i don't think i'd be with a SP who was rigid. they have a rate, you pay it without complaint, and have some fun -- they rush you out the door, don't see them again but why whine, they're the ones who are gonna lose long term.

i don't ever book for less than two hrs and try to do it late nite -- the whole thing is more relaxed that way -- i've had people stay for two on the nose others hang around for four or five -- have a few laughs, get a little dirty, have a drink, talk about Kant, get a little dirty -- etc.

sure the whole thing is about payment for services on some level but if you have the right attitude (and not be one of those hey, i got five minutes left or hey, you're five minutes over time) it can be a little more than that.

 

[Noob888]

I just want some of the girls who may be worried about their money situation because of slow times right now, to know that there will be a shift in the pace soon. .

Slow times? Somebody better tell that to the independent Asians or Asian micros.

 

[Sit_on_my_face]

Slow times? Somebody better tell that to the independent Asians or Asian micros.

Ya no doubt eh!! I've thought that and with all of these micro's showing up here and there and everywhere, you kind of wonder if it would hurt some of the higher priced girls. It seems like there's girls, agencies, parlours. indy's etc everywhere now. There's loads of them.

This business must be alot bigger and popular than I'm thinking it is. With all of this availability, you wonder if more than half of Vancouver's population is going to all of these LOL..


Wicked service is the key and the high priced girls give you that !

 

[87112]

It is without a doubt true that Vancouver is the red light capital of the Northwest. Seattle and Portland, Oregon are Hades for men. So many AMPs!

 

[Yman]

Like any market, sometimes there are corrections. It's the savy people who manage to weather the changes well. I'll let you make of that what you will.

 

[bigguy]

Yo IHateMySkirt

We meet again! Boy oh boy, your post is so immature and unbusinesslike. Are you an outdated LABOR ORGANIZER trying to get the ladies to sign union membership cards?

As clients, we have seen a major shift in the last 24 months. A very limited number of SP's have been able to increase their rates from previous levels. And mostly sustain those increases but usually only to NEW clients. Smart business persons knowing their market re their regulars and ability to survive through initially slower periods brought on by the price increase. More power to 'em. Risk reaps rewards!

On the other hand, you seem to be trumpeting a "rally round the SP Flag" to discourage DISCOUNTING by SP's who are forced to respond to market conditions due to THEIR their ability to survive as an SP. We pooners heap scorn on any other pooner who STUPIDLY trumpets "let's join together and BOYCOTT!!" What dickheads to even suggest such an action. Ditto: your appeal/suggestion. (And I am trying really hard to be nice.)

Fuck, I don't wish to take advantage of an SP in financial distress, but when the "SP market" fluctuates UP, we pooners pay the higher going rate. Conversely, when the SP market fluctuates DOWN, why would YOU expect your peer SP's not to react to the SP market realties?

"Rally round the flag girls," became passe 50 years back. If you wish to INSPIRE your peers to "hold the line," you'd better take a course in activism history or read a book or two on feminine labor history. (Sally Fields in the infamous cotton mills was a movie, NOT real life.)

If your appeal/intention was something other than a rally call, I'd be happy to apologize on what might appear as an attack on you personally.

bigguy

 

[trackstar]

The OP to me stated, "Please don't lower your rates! If you do, I have to lower mine to stay competitive!". Rates for any service fluctuates governed by the principles of supply and demand. If you have to work longer hours or see more clients at a reduced rate to maintain the current lifestyle that you have become accustomed to, then welcome to the world of small business. If you would like to work a job that maintains steady hours for steady pay, many jobs pay by the hour. What you should be concerned about during a slowdown is attracting new clients with reduced rates so that when things do pick up, you will actually have a client base and offering these same reduced rates so that you don't lose the customers you have now to someone else who has adjusted their rates to reflect the slow down in business.

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

I think lowering your rate to below the industry standard is foul kinda and I believe that it also lowers the expectations of most people involved which never is good for a service industry like this.

CRAPOLA!!!

Damn right it's good for the industry, that's why we have
micro's for anywhere from 1 brown to a buck sixty.

Sounds good to me.



...............QM'r

 

[ihatemyskirt]

What difference does it make to you? According to your thinking your not going to lower your rate no matter what, so why would it concern yourself with what someone else is charging it doesn't affect you. If you don't want to serve the < 300 club then don't, but don't you think that the ladies that are comfortable doing so should be able to so without you judging them. There are and always should be multiple options in different price ranges in any industry for it to be healthy and viable. If you want to share some of that altruistic attitude and financial wisdom why don't you find a charity to help.

No one should tell anybody else what to charge or pay for these type of activities, were all adults and can decide for ourselves.

Thankyou for this comment, it shed a little bit of light and the advice you offer is appreciated. Coincidentally, my latest fetish just happens to be charity and I have been researching what cause we will donate to-if anyone has ideas please share. It will be a car wash in the spirit of summer and we would need a few good bikini clad babes to participate. Not sure when. Not sure where. Regardless there will be bubbles.

 

[Krustee]

CRAPOLA!!!

Damn right it's good for the industry, that's why we have
micro's for anywhere from 1 brown to a buck sixty.

Sounds good to me.



...............QM'r

I agree!

The "ladies" in this industry set their rate at $250 per hour about 2 years ago now & it did'nt matter if you were a loyal client or not your rate was increased.

Now that these same clients were so disrespected before the "ladies" expect these clients to dig deeper so they can maintain their standard of living.

I have seen a 36% increase in my fuel expenses for my cars & home & I can assure you unless the SP's are offering more value for my money I am NOT sacrificing to give them my hard earned dough.

Simple economics "ladies" -
Supply & Demand.

 

[Evolve]

I have been researching what cause we will donate to-if anyone has ideas please share.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microloan

They are a means for the very poor to start making a living for themselves. I much prefer that to just feeding them for a day.
Just my 2 cents, so to speak.