ABC Show on prostitution
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did you watch it?
Well i sat through most of it...and i am not sure hat to say.. I think it was on sides and that they went in with a preconceived agenda..Once again they manly showed the down side and the down and out. and even that was fairly sanitized They really can't show the realty of the shitty side of prostitution, How do you have a show on selling sex , when there is no sex ,and no talk about sex why people want to pay for companionship and sex or any of the other things that we all know about.
In stead this show consintrated more on the girls and the reporter Diana Sayer emotional difficulties, and the drug use. with the mention of pimps,, but did not talk to any.
As for prices.. that allways blows me away .. on the street they are giving blow jobs for $10 to $20 .. and then at the bunny ranch they are charging $2000 for a few hrs.. of course the owner take half.
They briefly mention the inter net but did not pursue that , considering that probily half the sex industry is done over the inter net and through web site.
I have seen and heard a completely different story here..All they really needed to do was do a story on perbs and it member.. and they would have the whole truth.
WE live in a country where selling sex is legal and the just step over the border and the land of the free..and you have one fucked up sex trade because they don't want to accept that people need intimacy .and sex. and they will not stop it.
Well i sat through most of it...and i am not sure hat to say.. I think it was on sides and that they went in with a preconceived agenda..Once again they manly showed the down side and the down and out. and even that was fairly sanitized They really can't show the realty of the shitty side of prostitution, How do you have a show on selling sex , when there is no sex ,and no talk about sex why people want to pay for companionship and sex or any of the other things that we all know about.
In stead this show consintrated more on the girls and the reporter Diana Sayer emotional difficulties, and the drug use. with the mention of pimps,, but did not talk to any.
As for prices.. that allways blows me away .. on the street they are giving blow jobs for $10 to $20 .. and then at the bunny ranch they are charging $2000 for a few hrs.. of course the owner take half.
They briefly mention the inter net but did not pursue that , considering that probily half the sex industry is done over the inter net and through web site.
I have seen and heard a completely different story here..All they really needed to do was do a story on perbs and it member.. and they would have the whole truth.
WE live in a country where selling sex is legal and the just step over the border and the land of the free..and you have one fucked up sex trade because they don't want to accept that people need intimacy .and sex. and they will not stop it.
One part of the show one man paid 20 000 at a local ranch to be with a woman for the night only! She got half and they showed the print out for 9999. Do you think that the show was taken or they did that for a good stunt? or did that man pay too much?
Holly @#%! Don't trust what they report sometimes do they sell the NEWS OR DO THEY REPORT THE FACTS?
Holly @#%! Don't trust what they report sometimes do they sell the NEWS OR DO THEY REPORT THE FACTS?
I think the 9999 is to keep it under the $10000 mark which would draw the attention of the bank regulators and the IRS.
As to whether he paid too much, that would be up to him. I know that based on my current income, I would never spend that much, but hey, if 6/49 or Super 7 decides to drop 25 million into my account, then maybe. That being said, I do like to shop locally and there are plenty of fine ladies that are a 4 hour drive away.
As for the show itself, I found the segments on the streetwalkers and pimps, very depressing when they talk about doing it for 10 or 20 bucks.
As to whether he paid too much, that would be up to him. I know that based on my current income, I would never spend that much, but hey, if 6/49 or Super 7 decides to drop 25 million into my account, then maybe. That being said, I do like to shop locally and there are plenty of fine ladies that are a 4 hour drive away.
As for the show itself, I found the segments on the streetwalkers and pimps, very depressing when they talk about doing it for 10 or 20 bucks.
Facts? The news is not necessarily based on facts. And what reputable "ranch" would release their receipts to a reporter? Smells fishy to me.
For a 2 hour program on prostitution, it was superficial at best. The points that they kept brainwashing the viewers with were that all prostitutes were sexually abused in some shape or form, all prostitutes are damaged whether they like to admit it or not and they all do drugs legal or otherwise. It was mostly about the street scene and also spent sometime in one of the legal brothels. The "independent" scene was pretty much ignored.
Where is the truth?
That is two shows that toke a look at prostitution and both concentrated on the street scene.. and ignored the independents that make a good living .
it was all about drugs and abuse. and $20 BJ's.. And ether the girls were abused or the guys were sick and need help.
They talked to to guys in two hours , one would say any thing because he got caught.. and the other was nuts because he was paying $20,000 for the night at the bunny ranch.. we all know you can have any number of beautiful sexy ladies for that kind of money.. for the whole week.. so he was whacked.
I just want to see some one telling the truth for once. not this BS.
OK ladies it is time to step up .. and make a true to life documentary on the escort and prostitution scean it is the only way it will ever get told the right way.
Don't hold back .. the drugs , the abuse, i know they are real .. some like it some hate it.. and most of all you do it for the money..But you would not do it for $20 bucks and give it to your pimp.
And then maybe we can get some truth full comments from the guys that do ..and even the there wives that know .. Then we might see the real picture of the sex trade.. not this self richeous garbage that they get pushing as the true nature of the beast.
There would have to be segments on the SW, the MP's the agencies and the independents ..plus some high price ladies.. But can it be done when it seems we like to keep it hidden .. that is why they are able to push that crape they made as the truth because they know know one with out them selves , as clients ,or providers.
That is two shows that toke a look at prostitution and both concentrated on the street scene.. and ignored the independents that make a good living .
it was all about drugs and abuse. and $20 BJ's.. And ether the girls were abused or the guys were sick and need help.
They talked to to guys in two hours , one would say any thing because he got caught.. and the other was nuts because he was paying $20,000 for the night at the bunny ranch.. we all know you can have any number of beautiful sexy ladies for that kind of money.. for the whole week.. so he was whacked.
I just want to see some one telling the truth for once. not this BS.
OK ladies it is time to step up .. and make a true to life documentary on the escort and prostitution scean it is the only way it will ever get told the right way.
Don't hold back .. the drugs , the abuse, i know they are real .. some like it some hate it.. and most of all you do it for the money..But you would not do it for $20 bucks and give it to your pimp.
And then maybe we can get some truth full comments from the guys that do ..and even the there wives that know .. Then we might see the real picture of the sex trade.. not this self richeous garbage that they get pushing as the true nature of the beast.
There would have to be segments on the SW, the MP's the agencies and the independents ..plus some high price ladies.. But can it be done when it seems we like to keep it hidden .. that is why they are able to push that crape they made as the truth because they know know one with out them selves , as clients ,or providers.
I understand ..
just a little more on the intent f the show ,, which i think i understand .. They concentrated mostly on the street scene because that is what everyone sees ,, and don't realy want in there neighbourhood, as for agencies and independents that advertise on the Internet. he public does not see them unless they are looking.
Then why rock to boat .. meny of these business are paying taxes . buisiness licenses.. and kick backs ,, so they are all good. And up year in Canada I don't think they really want the public to know that the city and revenue Canada take there money equals with everyone else.
just a little more on the intent f the show ,, which i think i understand .. They concentrated mostly on the street scene because that is what everyone sees ,, and don't realy want in there neighbourhood, as for agencies and independents that advertise on the Internet. he public does not see them unless they are looking.
Then why rock to boat .. meny of these business are paying taxes . buisiness licenses.. and kick backs ,, so they are all good. And up year in Canada I don't think they really want the public to know that the city and revenue Canada take there money equals with everyone else.
I think the $10-20 is real because I've seen a number of cop type sting shows where these figures are used all the time when the cops are looking to charge the johns.
I did not at all believe the $20,000, and think that was for the benefit of the program. This is a legal NV brothel and quite a famous one, but I didn't once buy into the girls giving the rates at 500/15min, 1000/hh, etc which also came up. But a google on the ranch could probably get real info. I doubt if real high rollers go to the ranch, they are more likely to have someone come to their hotel suite, and at that point I think that they would be charged thousands.If those rates were real, those girls would retire in a month, they wouldn't come back 3 months after "retiring"
The one independent they interviewed they didn't stop until she agreed that maybe at some point in her life she was unhappy. Gee, welcome to life! In all she loved her life, and wouldn't do anything different.
I also thought it was strange, but not unsurprising, that when they did venture out to foreign lands, they chose NOT to go to Canada. Since it would contradict their viewpoint, I assume, and make the viewers wonder why the US can't legalize the trade since the laws in Canada do seem to work.
And don't be too quick to discount the pimp factor. They are here and they are controlling and abusive, and considering that many girls would willingly do this kind of work without threats and drugs, I wonder at the mentality behind someone who needs to exercise that kind of control, as shown in the program.
I did not at all believe the $20,000, and think that was for the benefit of the program. This is a legal NV brothel and quite a famous one, but I didn't once buy into the girls giving the rates at 500/15min, 1000/hh, etc which also came up. But a google on the ranch could probably get real info. I doubt if real high rollers go to the ranch, they are more likely to have someone come to their hotel suite, and at that point I think that they would be charged thousands.If those rates were real, those girls would retire in a month, they wouldn't come back 3 months after "retiring"
The one independent they interviewed they didn't stop until she agreed that maybe at some point in her life she was unhappy. Gee, welcome to life! In all she loved her life, and wouldn't do anything different.
I also thought it was strange, but not unsurprising, that when they did venture out to foreign lands, they chose NOT to go to Canada. Since it would contradict their viewpoint, I assume, and make the viewers wonder why the US can't legalize the trade since the laws in Canada do seem to work.
And don't be too quick to discount the pimp factor. They are here and they are controlling and abusive, and considering that many girls would willingly do this kind of work without threats and drugs, I wonder at the mentality behind someone who needs to exercise that kind of control, as shown in the program.
... and that "most of the johns are married"
Of course they never touch the idea that it was their society which keeps mass-producing once-abused young adults to fill the roles of working girls, instead suggesting that to choke off the demand for their sexual services would somehow cure the problem.
C'mon, society qualified such people for being able to do a job that lots of the rest of us just couldn't bring ourselves to do, and now they try to deny them the jobs for which society previously qualified them to do.
If society really wants to take steps toward greatly reducing prostitution then it would make it far easier for the abused to leave family situations where the abuse takes place.
If, suddenly, there were a vast reduction in new 18yo women who would do the work of a prostitute, eventually the 19yo and 23yo women would turn 49 and 53 and their numbers would be far less prominent on Craigslist, etc.
Society needs to quit looking elsewhere for the culprit and take some collective responsibility for child abuse.
This is akin to blaming the cocaine itself and the addict for drug abuse and letting the guy who grew the stuff remain blameless. Some people are genetically predisposed to addictions, but nobody is genetically predisposed to being a prostitute.
Diane Sawyer and ABC would do well to wake up!
A very powerful commentary is found here:
http://sexinthepublicsquare.org/node/628
Bound Not Gagged is initiating a call to action: letters or an open letter by sex workers to the ABC producers.
http://deepthroated.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/call-to-action-2020-report-demands-sw-responses/
http://sexinthepublicsquare.org/node/628
Bound Not Gagged is initiating a call to action: letters or an open letter by sex workers to the ABC producers.
http://deepthroated.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/call-to-action-2020-report-demands-sw-responses/
I like that first link . it tell use what the program was not.. and seem Tobe what we allways get .not what prostitution is but what some one else wants us e to beleave it is.
Is there any one out there that care to tell the truth.. or are they all afraid to rock to moral compass that is permanemtly stuck in the dark ages and the religiously blind.
Is there any one out there that care to tell the truth.. or are they all afraid to rock to moral compass that is permanemtly stuck in the dark ages and the religiously blind.
