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harrington

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Hi Guys,

Wondering if anyone is following the Eliot Spitzer case?

Spitzer is a very powerful politician, elected Governor of NY who crusaded to clean up Wall Street - however, he was just recently caught for pooning - flew a high end escort from NYC to Washington. Unfortunately for him, his conversations were caught on wire tap and his political career is pretty well over.

As a side note, he paid $4,300 for the escort - apparently a very high end one.

What are your thoughts on this? I think as pooners, we can all empathize with him as he had his needs.

Have any of you ever wonder what it would be like if you were a high profile person and were 'caught in the act'?

Here's the story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html
 

thrashand

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I love it..! he's an ass

Hey Spitzer..

lets make a deal!

If you stay out of my business, what I do with my cock on my time, and all that.

In return, I'll give you the same respect.


But since you are a self righteous, holier than thou, hyprocrite..
You deserve all the crap you are getting now! More even.

I would feel sorry for this guy.. but he's one of those ass hats that get up in my business, ruin my day.. but now whats some "privacy" when he gets busted for doing what I like to do.

How can anyone feel sorry for this prick?

He's just like Mark Foley, Larry Craig and the other "do as I say not as I do'

ROT in hell my friend.. you have a reservation.

TT
 

LoveEmAll

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Another Pooning Politician

I have watched this story on the news recently with some mild interest. But, wow, the media is sure making a big deal out of this. I mean top story, extensive coverage, etc.

I hear that in Europe and most other parts of the world, that this kind of story would make page 20+ and be done in no time; no big deal.

The most intriguing facts of this case are: the $1000/hour rate; he flew her down from NYC; he had a credit on his account!; he supports Clinton (note the irony in that).

What I cannot figure out is why the wives literally must stand by their man during these press conferences. If this happened to me - and my wife was a high profile leader who got caught fucking around- I think I'd say to her, fuck that, I'm not gonna stand by you in front of all those cameras! I am humiliated enough, thank you very much. You take the press conference yourself!"

Finally, I get the feeling that the LE in the States are a bit more hung up on prostitution than we are up here. I was in Seattle recently and the pooning atmosphere seems especially LE sensitive. Bottom line, after a bit of research, I passed on trying to find someone. Just seemed so much more risky and not as comfortable of a shopping experience.

So keep your pooning business in Canada. Indeed, with the kind of cases popping up in the States, it emphasizes the need to be especially cautious in your transactions.
 

travelller

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What I cannot figure out is why the wives literally must stand by their man during these press conferences. If this happened to me - and my wife was a high profile leader who got caught fucking around- I think I'd say to her, fuck that, I'm not gonna stand by you in front of all those cameras! I am humiliated enough, thank you very much. You take the press conference yourself!"
I thought the same thing. Poor woman, she must be devastated as it is. How cruel to drag her to the press conference.
 

harrington

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I was watching Headline news today and it has been reported that he spent at least $15K on pooning and FBI agents are estimating that number can be as high as $80K!!

Wow, can you imagine having a pooning budget like that? You can probably have a tryst with every decent SP in the city a few times over!
 

wannaliquorbox

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15k is not unreasonable...up here, say @ $$$/session, once a week on average 4wks to a month, a year is 14.4k.

then again, 1k/hr is something completely different, so is 80k!
 

harrington

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He spent 4K per hour on that??:confused:

He must have a serious drug habbit as well causing blindness!:D
Those prices are pretty standard for NYC where they place a premium on models, musicians, etc.. it doesn't really make a difference in a city where CEOs, Investment Bankers, Bond Traders, mobsters, drug dealers etc.. are earning 7 figure incomes..

She is actually quite attractive and it is quite the norm for aspiring musicians, models, actresses, etc... to be escorting to make ends meet until they 'make it' or 'are discovered' - especially in NYC.

In a strange twist, it wouldn't surprise me if the publicity helps her music career.
 

travelller

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OMG, that first girl, the ho-fessional costs $3,000/hour... looks wise, she wouldn't even be in the top half at the Fox Den!

I guess we are spoiled compared to NYC!

Unbelievable...
Smart girl. And she doesn't have to kiss the guys' asses for good reviews LOL
 

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Spitzer-He's Fucked. Now they are going to Impeach him as well.
Those impeachment proceedings will have to move pretty damn quickly, what with him resigning effective next Monday. If I'm not mistaken, the impeachment process is to remove someone from elected office. Kind of hard to remove someone from an elected position that he's already resigned. :eek:
 

harrington

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That's what I keep thinking. We're so provincial. Who cares? Although it sounds like it was karma for this guy to get caught!



No kidding!
There was a great article in today's National Post on why wives stay by their man during such times. In short, it states that it is actually more difficult for a woman to leave due the emotional stress of splitting the family, losing potential for political advancement (i.e. Hilary), etc....

I don't think there will be an impeachment as he's pretty well done as of Monday.

What surprises me is that he has almost zero supporters... even Mike Tyson, Michael Vick, Bill Clinton, Martha Stewart, etc.. had their staunch supporters but Eliot seems to be almost doing this alone.

Perhaps its the enormous hypocrisy that has ultimately done him in and the damage is probably beyond repair. At least with Clinton, no one was too surprised by it b/c of his reputation.
 

jraf

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Okay...

There was a great article in today's National Post on why wives stay by their man during such times. In short, it states that it is actually more difficult for a woman to leave due the emotional stress of splitting the family, losing potential for political advancement (i.e. Hilary), etc.../QUOTE]

I can kind of agree with that, but why do they show up, standing by their man, in front of the televised world, when he's fessing up? She looked terrible; certainly she would have preferred to be just about anywhere but where she was?

The whole thing had to be so crushing for her; I can't imagine she was feeling very supportive.
 

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[QUOTE=harrington;715571

What surprises me is that he has almost zero supporters... even Mike Tyson, Michael Vick, Bill Clinton, Martha Stewart, etc.. had their staunch supporters but Eliot seems to be almost doing this alone.
Perhaps its the enormous hypocrisy that has ultimately done him in and the damage is probably beyond repair.

It is surprising and also very sad. This guy took on wall street and all of the: corrupt ,self serving, morally bankrupt, low lifes that hang there, detritus disguising themselves as human beings--- and won. He shot straight and he at least partially cleaned the place up. No one to my knowledge, has been as effective as he was. Sarbanes Oxley the legislation to make these schmucks accountable can at least partially be attributed to him and his efforts. He took on white collar crime and won, just ask our friend Conrad Black prisoner #77777777777, LOL.

The fact that as Attorney General he prosecuted those engaged in the hobby while he himself pooned isn't of that much significance to me. His office by virtue of of its mandate had to engage in that activity. He didn't focus his attention there,but rather on wall street and his contribution was huge on the damage he inflicted on thse evil doers. I say canonize him, when he goes.
 
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Avery

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An interesting take...

....It makes sense to me. Spitzer made a lot of enemies during his crusade against financial corruption. It figures they'd want to bring him down.

Asia Times Online

Mar 20, 2008

Why Spitzer was Bushwhacked

By F William Engdahl

The spectacular and bizarre release of secret FBI wiretap data to the New York Times exposing the tryst of New York State governor Eliot Spitzer, the now-infamous client "No 9", with an upmarket call-girl had relatively little to do with the George W Bush administration’s pursuit of high moral standards for public servants. Spitzer was likely the target of a White House and Wall Street dirty tricks operation to silence one of the most dangerous and vocal critics of their handling of the current financial market crisis.

A useful rule of thumb in evaluating spectacular scandals around prominent public figures is to ask who might want to eliminate that person. In the case of former governor Eliot Spitzer, a Democrat, it is clear that the spectacular "leak" of the government's FBI wiretap records showing that Spitzer paid a


high-cost prostitute US$4,300 for what amounted to about an hour’s personal entertainment, was politically motivated.

The press has almost solely focused on the salacious aspects of the affair, not least the hefty fee Spitzer apparently paid. Why the scandal breaks now is the more interesting question.

Spitzer became governor of New York following a high-profile record as a relentless state attorney general going after financial crimes such as the Enron fraud, and corruption by Wall Street investment banks during the 2002 dotcom bubble era. Spitzer made powerful enemies by all accounts. The former head of the large AIG insurance group, Hank Greenburg, was among his detractors. He was bitterly hated on Wall Street. He had made his political career on being ruthless against financial corruption.

Most recently, from his position as governor of the nation’s second largest state, home to its financial industry, Spitzer had begun making high-profile attacks on the complicity of the Bush administration in covertly arranging bailouts of its Wall Street friends at the expense of ordinary homeowners and citizens, all paid for by taxpayer funds.

Curiously, Spitzer, who had been elected governor in 2006, defeating a Republican by winning nearly 70% of the vote, has not been charged with any crime. However, the day the scandal broke, New York Assembly Republicans immediately announced plans to impeach Spitzer or put him on public trial were he to refuse to resign. Spitzer could be asked to testify in any trial involving the Emperors Club prostitution ring. But so far he hasn’t been charged with a crime.

Prostitution is illegal in most US states, but clients of prostitutes are almost never charged, nor are their names usually leaked in a case in process. The Spitzer case is in the hands of Washington and not state authorities, underscoring the clear political nature of the Spitzer "Watergate".

The New York Times said Spitzer was an individual identified as Client 9 in court papers filed last week. Client 9 arranged to meet with "Kristen", a prostitute who officially charged $1,000 an hour, on February 13 in a Washington hotel. Whatever transpired, Spitzer paid her $4,300, according to the official documents. The case is clearly political when compared with more egregious recent cases involving Republicans. Republican Mark Foley was exposed propositioning male interns in Congress and Rudolph Giuliani was discovered cheating on his wife, but no or few Republican calls for resignations were heard.

Why the attack now?
Spitzer had become increasingly public in blaming the Bush administration for the nation’s current financial and economic disaster. He testified in Washington in mid-February before the US House of Representatives Financial Services subcommittee on the problems in New York-based specialized insurance companies, known as "monoline" insurers. In a national CNBC TV interview the same day, he laid blame for the crisis and its broader economic fallout on the Bush administration.

Spitzer recalled that several years ago the US Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) went to court and blocked New York State efforts to investigate the mortgage activities of national banks. Spitzer argued that the OCC did not put a stop to questionable loan marketing practices or uphold higher underwriting standards.

"This could have been avoided if the OCC had done its job," Spitzer said in the interview. "The OCC did nothing. The Bush administration let the housing bubble inflate and now that it's deflating we're dealing with the consequences. The real failure, the genesis, the germ that has spread, was the subprime scandal," Spitzer said.

Fraudulent marketing and very low "teaser" mortgage rates that later ballooned higher, were practices that should have been stopped, he argued. "When mortgages are being marketed, there is a marketplace obligation to ensure the borrower can afford to pay back the debt," he said.

That TV interview was only one instance of Spitzer laying blame on the Bush Republicans. On February 14, Spitzer published a signed article in the influential Washington Post titled, "Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime: How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers."

That article, laying clear blame on the administration for the development of the subprime crisis, appeared the day after his ill-fated tryst with the prostitute at the Mayflower Hotel. Just a coincidence? Spitzer wrote, "In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act pre-empting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks."

In his article, Spitzer charged, "Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye."

Bush, said Spitzer right in the headline, was the "predator lenders' partner in crime". The president, said Spitzer, was a fugitive from justice. And Spitzer was in Washington to launch a campaign to take on the Bush regime and the biggest financial powers on the planet. Spitzer wrote, "When history tells the story of the subprime lending crisis and recounts its devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners the Bush administration will not be judged favorably."

With that article, Spitzer may well have signed his own political death warrant.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/JC20Dj04.html
 
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