What benefits do Natives get?
- Thread starter LittleAsianGuy
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Free Everything...
They get Free Homes, free cash, no taxes, free schooling.
Only problem is, they have to live on the reserve to get the free housing...but not the best atmosphere for someone that wants to raise children or just be constructive.
They get Free Homes, free cash, no taxes, free schooling.
Only problem is, they have to live on the reserve to get the free housing...but not the best atmosphere for someone that wants to raise children or just be constructive.
No taxes on a job "on the reserve" but working off the reserve they do pay taxes ... but they get all kinds of tax breaks. Even if they are 1/16 Native or Metis or whatever they can get a Treaty Card and get these benefits.
And if they live on the Morley reserve near Calgary, they get about a $50,000 cash payment from their accumulated share of the oil and gas royalty when they turn 18. Equals: a $45,000 pickup truck, some booze, and the truck is totaled within the year. Priceless.
I don't blame them, what with having foetal alcohol syndrome and living in the 3rd world and all...
Oh, they also get free signs put up on the Transcanada Highway that say "Watch for Pedestrians" but that is code for "Watch of Pissed Natives Passing out on the Highway and getting run over by 20 or 30 semis".
Not meant to offend!...
I think Im aloud to start this because I am part Native LOL
(and no I don't collect any benifits)
*What do you call a group of indians sitting in a circle???
A full set of teeth!
*What is the difference between an indian funeral and an indian wedding???
One less drunk!
Anyone want to share some more native jokes?
I think Im aloud to start this because I am part Native LOL
(and no I don't collect any benifits)
*What do you call a group of indians sitting in a circle???
A full set of teeth!
*What is the difference between an indian funeral and an indian wedding???
One less drunk!
Anyone want to share some more native jokes?
Nice to know, what band are your relatives from?
Who cares! LOL.
Any man can donate sperm...
It takes a real man to be a father...
My "dad" (stepdad) is hungarian and my mom is german... so Lets just say Im no more indian than them k
Daddy
Danika, can I be your DaddyWho cares! LOL.
Any man can donate sperm...
It takes a real man to be a father...
My "dad" (stepdad) is hungarian and my mom is german... so Lets just say Im no more indian than them k
Not a single empathetic soul replied thus far! what a tragedy, what a shame. It is easy for us to watch from a distance and be envyous of their privligaes, and than turn a blind eye to how our governments policies have destroyed their families for generations. After all would any one want to trade places? I wouldn't. Native populations all over the world face the same issues we see here today in Canada. I think we owe them more than a small check, a parcel of land, and a few extra fishing and hunting rights. After all they were here first, we just had greed, disease, and better technology and the selfishness to defraud them of their land.
If it wasn't for us...
Empathy for people who are indifferent and users...bah...
If it wasn't for the rest of the world, the Indians would still be living off the land, shitting in holes in the ground, sleeping on dirt, using leaves to heal wounds, and have a life expectancy of 45. Let's face it, they have no motivation...whether we came and concured, or not...
Empathy for people who are indifferent and users...bah...
First Nations, Taxes, and other benefits.
I just thought I would clarify some misconceptions regarding First Nations and taxes.
First of all - well over 90% of working Frist Nations people pay taxes in the exact same manner as other Canadian citizens.
First nations are exempt for Income Tax if MORE THAN 90% of their income earning activity occurs on reserve. From 1996 onward, tenants of association was also introduced into the equation...meaning that simply working and generating income on reserve may not necessarily be sufficient to make one tax exepmt. Who the work was being done for (was it to benefit FN people), where the individual lived and banked, where the business was registered etc....also became determining factors in whether the income was to be taxed.
The vast majority of us work off of reseve land....and therefore pay our income tax/cpp/gst etc. just like everybody else.
In many cases First Nations people who do work ON reserve (my mother is an example) are also subjected to full tax rates. She works on reserve at a hospital (governmnent owned) which caters predominatly to First Nations people...but this is still not considered suffiienct to not be paying taxes on her income.
As you can see - this tax expemption works for such a miniscule precentage of First Nations people. The vast majority of us pay our full and fair share.
Up until 1996, GIC's which were registered to banks on reserve (and if invested 'in house') had the advantage of the derived income being tax exepmt (since it was after all earned on reserve). A 1996 ruling deemed even in house GIC's to be 'commercial mainstream' and therefore taxable at the regular rate.
The only other tax break which first nations people have is on purchases under the following circumstances; Items purchased on reserved, or delivered to reserve are exempt from taxes.
With the exception of large appliances/cars etc....the extra delivery charges/time are really not worth the savings - and very few of us take advantage of this savings.
Schooling: Yes, First Nations holding a status card (you now need to be a minimum of 25% to qualify - and NOT Metis) do have the advantage of having post secondarry education paid for. In my opinion, ANYBODY who maintins a high GPA should have this opportunity. However, the government sees fit to allow for Status First Nations to have theirs paid for. I'm sure it's not entirely aultristic. After all, assisting those who would normally be on government subsidy for the rest of their life to grow and become contributing tax payers is of benefit to everybody. People on social assistence - regarldess of their nationality, also get free training. Fair - perhaps not. Of benefit to the country in general - absolutley.
And for the record...not all of us take advantage of that. I utilized the free schooling for the first 3 years of my degree (though I had a scholorship which paid for most of it anyway....the government did make up the balance). Once I began working as a provider, my income was sufficient to pay for my own schooling. I paid my own way for my Fourth year, for my second degree, as well as for my Masters.
No, I have never been on social assistence, have never received government funding (other than partial payment for my first 3 years at uni), and DO pay all my taxes.....including my GST and CPP.
I just thought I would clarify some misconceptions regarding First Nations and taxes.
First of all - well over 90% of working Frist Nations people pay taxes in the exact same manner as other Canadian citizens.
First nations are exempt for Income Tax if MORE THAN 90% of their income earning activity occurs on reserve. From 1996 onward, tenants of association was also introduced into the equation...meaning that simply working and generating income on reserve may not necessarily be sufficient to make one tax exepmt. Who the work was being done for (was it to benefit FN people), where the individual lived and banked, where the business was registered etc....also became determining factors in whether the income was to be taxed.
The vast majority of us work off of reseve land....and therefore pay our income tax/cpp/gst etc. just like everybody else.
In many cases First Nations people who do work ON reserve (my mother is an example) are also subjected to full tax rates. She works on reserve at a hospital (governmnent owned) which caters predominatly to First Nations people...but this is still not considered suffiienct to not be paying taxes on her income.
As you can see - this tax expemption works for such a miniscule precentage of First Nations people. The vast majority of us pay our full and fair share.
Up until 1996, GIC's which were registered to banks on reserve (and if invested 'in house') had the advantage of the derived income being tax exepmt (since it was after all earned on reserve). A 1996 ruling deemed even in house GIC's to be 'commercial mainstream' and therefore taxable at the regular rate.
The only other tax break which first nations people have is on purchases under the following circumstances; Items purchased on reserved, or delivered to reserve are exempt from taxes.
With the exception of large appliances/cars etc....the extra delivery charges/time are really not worth the savings - and very few of us take advantage of this savings.
Schooling: Yes, First Nations holding a status card (you now need to be a minimum of 25% to qualify - and NOT Metis) do have the advantage of having post secondarry education paid for. In my opinion, ANYBODY who maintins a high GPA should have this opportunity. However, the government sees fit to allow for Status First Nations to have theirs paid for. I'm sure it's not entirely aultristic. After all, assisting those who would normally be on government subsidy for the rest of their life to grow and become contributing tax payers is of benefit to everybody. People on social assistence - regarldess of their nationality, also get free training. Fair - perhaps not. Of benefit to the country in general - absolutley.
And for the record...not all of us take advantage of that. I utilized the free schooling for the first 3 years of my degree (though I had a scholorship which paid for most of it anyway....the government did make up the balance). Once I began working as a provider, my income was sufficient to pay for my own schooling. I paid my own way for my Fourth year, for my second degree, as well as for my Masters.
No, I have never been on social assistence, have never received government funding (other than partial payment for my first 3 years at uni), and DO pay all my taxes.....including my GST and CPP.
First of all, I hope no one takes any offense to this, but this question has been running in my mind for a while.
With all the refugees who come to Canada that have had horrible life experiences (from jews escaping the holocaust, Vietnamese/ Cambodian boat people escaping communism to others escaping totalitarian states) most of them seem to adjust and even become successful here in Canada.
So many First Nations do not. I realize that the 50's & 60's were not kind to the native people but that was years ago.
Is it because so many are stuck on reserves?
If any one else has other reasons I'd like to hear them.
With all the refugees who come to Canada that have had horrible life experiences (from jews escaping the holocaust, Vietnamese/ Cambodian boat people escaping communism to others escaping totalitarian states) most of them seem to adjust and even become successful here in Canada.
So many First Nations do not. I realize that the 50's & 60's were not kind to the native people but that was years ago.
Is it because so many are stuck on reserves?
If any one else has other reasons I'd like to hear them.
Let's not judge people, okay...
You don't really learn from your mistakes in life do you, Danika?
my opinions on this matter more or less got me disowned. pt1
both my parents are native. on my mother's side her mother was native who married a 'non-native.'
on my father's side both of his parents were native, as far as he knows his grandparents were native as well.
i don't know what that makes me, but i have a status card, and i pay taxes. the reserve i would call home if i chose to live there is on vancouver island. if i worked on that reserve, or any reserve for that matter i would not have to pay taxes as someone else already mentioned.
if i went through a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork, and such, i could get approved for housing on reserve. it takes years to get approved, and even longer to get a house built on it. after that i don't know how it works. as far as i know the banks don't recognize a house built on a reserve, or the land for that matter, so building any sort of equity (as far as i know) is pretty much pointless. and if you've ever seen a reserve, your house is worth only as much as your neighbors. so all in all, you've got a roof over your head, and you're not paying any sort of rent or anything.
every band in a tribe is budgeted a certain amount of dollars a year towards education. i have no idea how the money is dispersed, or even if all of it is dispersed for education. what i do know is i woke up one morning and knew i was fed up with working construction jobs, and "mc-jobs." so i contacted my band and asked about the whole "free education" deal. they told me to research what i wanted to get into, and forward as much information as i could. i sat down and figured out what i wanted to do, did the research, and got back to them.
basically what happened after that was i filled out an application form and forwarded the information on what i wanted to go to school for. i was told in the meantime to apply to the college i was interested in, and to get back to them if i was admitted. a few days later i found out the program i wanted to get into had a spot open for me. i called my band back and let them know.
after a lot of long distance phone calls, my band took care of my books, tuition, and a small living allowance to assist me while i studied. i still had to work part time on evenings and weekends, but for the most part i suppose you could say i received a "free" education. but it's subject to conditions. i don't like to use the term "first come, first served." but that's the term that comes to mind.
i can't speak for other people, or other reserves. all i can do is tell you the way things are from the way i've seen them. when i was 14, i watched the Oka Crisis from my tv set, while my aunt stood amongst natives from all over the country at barricades set up by the mohawks. at the time she was living in regina, while her husband attended the rcmp academy. after two children they would split up. she went on to university and teaches high school english somewhere on vancouver island. her ex-husband still serves with the RCMP and rarely sees his kids. right now she is living on reserve with her two kids, and their grandmother.
over the years two of my uncles have commited suicide. one of my uncles was living with a girlfriend, on reserve of course. one night he wanted to take the car out to town, and had been drinking. his girlfriend took the keys from him, and told him she wouldn't let him drive drunk. he locked himself in the bathroom and told her if she didn't give him back his keys he would swallow all of the pills in their medicine cabinet. she refused, and my uncle overdosed.
as for my other uncle who took his own life, we'll never know what happened. one day he walked into his basement, on reserve of course, and hung himself shortly after his third child was born. he didn't leave a note or anything. a couple of years later his widow and their children were forced to move out their house due to a mold problem. when the house was suitable to live in again, they moved back. i don't know why.
i have another uncle who helped build a tourist/friendship center on vancouver island. if you're familiar with vancouver island you probably know which one i am referring to. maybe you've even visited it. i've fallen out of touch with him, but my mother tells me that he works for the tribe doing handyman work for houses on reserve.
another uncle works for a salmon farm. if i had to chose a favorite uncle, i think it would be this one. when i was a kid i remember he would take a bunch of us down to the river. we'd play in the water and a short distance upstream he would spear fish from a tree that outcropped above the water. he would stand on this branch, and he always looked perfectly still, and once and awhile you would hear this *SPLASH!* and turn to see him pulling a fish out of the water. at my sister's wedding a couple of years ago we were talking and he asked me how he would go about putting cameras up around his house. when i asked him why he told me that someone was breaking into his house. nothing was going missing. he would come home from work and the tv or the radio would be on,and there would be food missing from the fridge.
he told me it didn't really bother him that it was happening, he was just getting tired of replacing the same window all the time. after that he chuckled and said he wanted to find out who it was, not so he could beat the tar out of him, but simply to let him know if he wanted to watch tv and eat his food all he had to do was ask. the last i heard he's living with his girlfriend, and his daughter from a previous relationship had her first child a couple of years ago.
i have a cousin. when his mom died of cancer a couple of years back. there was a mad dash to get a will drawn up so her son would be able to stay in the house they lived in. the day before she died my mother and i went into the hospital to say our good-byes. when my mom and i began to tear up she took our hands and smiled. even though my aunt was pretty much blind, i'll always remember how bright her eyes were towards the end. she told us, "don't cry. soon i will be with jesus."
the next day she was dead, and i was wishing i believed in god.
i have other cousins, aunts and uncles. it's a strange mix though. some live the straight and narrow, the others struggle with an addiction of some sort. most of the time it's alcohol, other times its heavier stuff.
both my parents are native. on my mother's side her mother was native who married a 'non-native.'
on my father's side both of his parents were native, as far as he knows his grandparents were native as well.
i don't know what that makes me, but i have a status card, and i pay taxes. the reserve i would call home if i chose to live there is on vancouver island. if i worked on that reserve, or any reserve for that matter i would not have to pay taxes as someone else already mentioned.
if i went through a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork, and such, i could get approved for housing on reserve. it takes years to get approved, and even longer to get a house built on it. after that i don't know how it works. as far as i know the banks don't recognize a house built on a reserve, or the land for that matter, so building any sort of equity (as far as i know) is pretty much pointless. and if you've ever seen a reserve, your house is worth only as much as your neighbors. so all in all, you've got a roof over your head, and you're not paying any sort of rent or anything.
every band in a tribe is budgeted a certain amount of dollars a year towards education. i have no idea how the money is dispersed, or even if all of it is dispersed for education. what i do know is i woke up one morning and knew i was fed up with working construction jobs, and "mc-jobs." so i contacted my band and asked about the whole "free education" deal. they told me to research what i wanted to get into, and forward as much information as i could. i sat down and figured out what i wanted to do, did the research, and got back to them.
basically what happened after that was i filled out an application form and forwarded the information on what i wanted to go to school for. i was told in the meantime to apply to the college i was interested in, and to get back to them if i was admitted. a few days later i found out the program i wanted to get into had a spot open for me. i called my band back and let them know.
after a lot of long distance phone calls, my band took care of my books, tuition, and a small living allowance to assist me while i studied. i still had to work part time on evenings and weekends, but for the most part i suppose you could say i received a "free" education. but it's subject to conditions. i don't like to use the term "first come, first served." but that's the term that comes to mind.
i can't speak for other people, or other reserves. all i can do is tell you the way things are from the way i've seen them. when i was 14, i watched the Oka Crisis from my tv set, while my aunt stood amongst natives from all over the country at barricades set up by the mohawks. at the time she was living in regina, while her husband attended the rcmp academy. after two children they would split up. she went on to university and teaches high school english somewhere on vancouver island. her ex-husband still serves with the RCMP and rarely sees his kids. right now she is living on reserve with her two kids, and their grandmother.
over the years two of my uncles have commited suicide. one of my uncles was living with a girlfriend, on reserve of course. one night he wanted to take the car out to town, and had been drinking. his girlfriend took the keys from him, and told him she wouldn't let him drive drunk. he locked himself in the bathroom and told her if she didn't give him back his keys he would swallow all of the pills in their medicine cabinet. she refused, and my uncle overdosed.
as for my other uncle who took his own life, we'll never know what happened. one day he walked into his basement, on reserve of course, and hung himself shortly after his third child was born. he didn't leave a note or anything. a couple of years later his widow and their children were forced to move out their house due to a mold problem. when the house was suitable to live in again, they moved back. i don't know why.
i have another uncle who helped build a tourist/friendship center on vancouver island. if you're familiar with vancouver island you probably know which one i am referring to. maybe you've even visited it. i've fallen out of touch with him, but my mother tells me that he works for the tribe doing handyman work for houses on reserve.
another uncle works for a salmon farm. if i had to chose a favorite uncle, i think it would be this one. when i was a kid i remember he would take a bunch of us down to the river. we'd play in the water and a short distance upstream he would spear fish from a tree that outcropped above the water. he would stand on this branch, and he always looked perfectly still, and once and awhile you would hear this *SPLASH!* and turn to see him pulling a fish out of the water. at my sister's wedding a couple of years ago we were talking and he asked me how he would go about putting cameras up around his house. when i asked him why he told me that someone was breaking into his house. nothing was going missing. he would come home from work and the tv or the radio would be on,and there would be food missing from the fridge.
he told me it didn't really bother him that it was happening, he was just getting tired of replacing the same window all the time. after that he chuckled and said he wanted to find out who it was, not so he could beat the tar out of him, but simply to let him know if he wanted to watch tv and eat his food all he had to do was ask. the last i heard he's living with his girlfriend, and his daughter from a previous relationship had her first child a couple of years ago.
i have a cousin. when his mom died of cancer a couple of years back. there was a mad dash to get a will drawn up so her son would be able to stay in the house they lived in. the day before she died my mother and i went into the hospital to say our good-byes. when my mom and i began to tear up she took our hands and smiled. even though my aunt was pretty much blind, i'll always remember how bright her eyes were towards the end. she told us, "don't cry. soon i will be with jesus."
the next day she was dead, and i was wishing i believed in god.
i have other cousins, aunts and uncles. it's a strange mix though. some live the straight and narrow, the others struggle with an addiction of some sort. most of the time it's alcohol, other times its heavier stuff.
LOL no shit!hmmm yes, white man has been a very big savior, I cherish everything they have brought.
