Confessions of a student who sold sex to live and learn

kodiak_bear3

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This article has appeared yesterday in the online version of The Times.

A young French student has written a book about her story as a SP to pay for her studies, bringing up a phenomenon that is increasing everywhere (here in Canada too).
I have always believed that SP can either choose their career or be forced into it (pimps, slave merchants, drug users... or even those who do it to feed their children).

A student who decides to become a SP to pay for her studies, does it on a free choice or is forced?
I'd be interested to learn what is your opinion (SP comments especially welcome)
 

jordan_

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I plan on going to school soon and Im doing this to have the money saved,and then some, so Im not struggling. But it doesn't bother me, I enjoy what I do.
So its win-win.:D

Im sure its tough for people who feel its their only option.
 

Jodie

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A very interesting article indeed.

There is a part of me that wishes I had discovered this line of work while I was in university, as I found myself in a constant battle to make ends meet. I was in debt up to my eyeballs, working more hours at my part-time job than I was attending classes, was often late with my rent (or couldn't afford to eat if I paid it), and couldn't keep my eyes open during lectures. No doubt, my academics suffered as a result. Perhaps if I'd been able to earn my weekly part-time job salary in two hours instead of twenty, I might have been able to devote more time to my studies.

Saying that, when I read this young lady's account, I realize that those were very emotionally vulnerable years for me, and I'm now certain that I did not have the level of maturity required to cope with the various trials and tribulations encountered in this line of work. Looking back, I am thankful that despite the financial difficulties I experienced during those years, my emotional, social and sexual growth occurred within "normal" parameters for that age and stage of life.

It is very sad to read that escorting has, to a certain extent, scarred this young girl for life. I myself have found the experience to be overwhelmingly positive and enjoyable, but then again, I'm not here out of any necessity or desperation.

To answer your question, no - I do not believe escorting to pay for one's studies constitutes being "forced into prostitution." Unlike the single, unemployed, uneducated mother who cannot make ends meet, a student's situation is very temporary. I had to put up with a whole lot of crap for a few years, but in the end I walked away with a degree in hand and a whole world of opportunities at my doorstep. (And BTW, I actually managed to pay off all my debts before I started escorting :))
 

braveheart604

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not trying to be an ass

but there are student loans that one could apply for. The majority of girls who can't afford an education have them and their interest free until your done school. So why take the risks of being an SP when student loans are available to you? so in other words no its a choice
 

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In my short pooning life, I was quite surprised to learn of the number of students that become SPs to save up for education. I wasn't sure how to react to that in the beginning because while education is a privilege, it seems like only the privileged can afford it without having to make too many concessions in life. It just never occurred to me that a student becoming an SP was such a huge reality. It was certainly an eye opener for me.

Actually, I quite admire those that do what they have to do to make ends meet. It's not always the best or easiest decision whether to become an SP or take a third job to put food on the table. I can not and will not disrespect those that want a better future for themselves and/or their children. These people have my respect.

Post-secondary education has become a huge money pit nowadays with tuition reaching into the ten thousands and beyond for a Bachelor's Degree depending on where you study. That doesn't include books and other mandatory supplies. For some faculties of studies, it's mandatory that you voluntarily purchase to laptop to aide in your studies which adds another huge expense. I don't have any numbers to back up my claims but from recent research into my own schooling at UBC (thinking of going back for refreshing and upgrading), 15 credits of courses ie. one term will cost me about $6000 not including books, supplies, etc. That equates to about a cool $12 G for two terms for tuition alone!

To answer your question, is it a choice? Yes, I think it is a choice. Albeit perhaps a difficult choice for some...not so much for others as it may seem like their only option...
 

CJ Tylers

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Post Secondary is ridiculously expensive, however, there are several things to look at:

1) Student Loans (nasty, but available)
2) Work pt/ft before going to save up and while at (yes, long hours)
3) Aim for scholarships
4) Live at home with the parents to save cash (not always possible)

Any combination of those 4 make post secondary possible on a regular income (for the most part)... the trouble is that so many people are dreaming of being out from under their parents roof that they jump at distant schools or living in residence... and that costs a bundle. Also, some courses cost alot more than others... if you don't have a backup plan or don't have a fiscal plan that works, you just can't take those courses.

In the end, school is both a choice and a privledge... it isn't classified as a necessity, otherwise it'd be close to free (the first 12/13 years of school are classified as essential)... so there is no way you can be "forced" to do anything regarding it.

You have options upon options... nothing is a "no option" situation, be it the school, the courses, housing etc can't afford and ivy leagure school? try a local one.... whatt about trades? a different career path? what about becoming an independant businessman?

The only place that we become "forced into something", where there is "no option but this" is in our mind; and if we decide based upon that to do something, it's our choice and not outside factors determining our actions.
 

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Did anybody talking about student loans read the last sentence in that article?

£2,642 Average student loan [in Britain]
France does not offer such loans
 

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Anyone ever live in rez???

if so, what's the flipping difference between someone sleeping
with everyone in the whole dorm for free or being smart and
charging for the privilege and paying for their education???

really, what's the frikkin diff???

do all these conservative asshats sending their little precious off
to an ivy league school really believe that it takes more than 15
minutes before she is flat on her back with her legs spread???

Maybe Dubya made it through Harvard a virgin (boning your
frat bros in the ass don't count as sex to conservatives) but you
can bet ol' Billy Goat Clinton was crapping big ones at the thought
of Chelsea getting it on with some liberal horndog!!!

God, get over yourselves ... stop moralizing sex.
 

braveheart604

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Did anybody talking about student loans read the last sentence in that article?

£2,642 Average student loan [in Britain]
France does not offer such loans
yeah im talking about canadian girls/women who are putting themselves through school by escorting. Canada has student loans readily available. I couldnt get one til i turned 22 cause of my parents income but if you dont come from a background like that than it should be available.

Im not trying to be a smartass honestly any ladies on here who have been refused a loan before deciding to get into the business?
 

leelee

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I am not convinced that there is always a choice....

Women become escorts because they need the money. Whether they are a student, single mom, or recently in debt (amongst other reasons). Their motivation for becoming an escort is a reflection of a greater social problem: school is too expensive, supporting children are expensive, etc.

Allow me to give you an example...a girl that I worked with years ago had a husband who beat her and was threatening to beat the children. Out of love for her children she left him and was suddenly a single mom with three kids. The only way to support them alone was by becoming an escort. Is that really a choice, or a reflection of an unfair social environment?

For me, I got into this business because of school. I do not wish to be in debt when I leave. It was an economic choice...not a desire. The majority of escorts get into this business for financial reasons. If they tell you different, it is merely to live up to a stereotype, as a potential customer does not want to hear that you only do it for the money.
 

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Right now, the only SP I date is, indeed, a student. I am her one and only client; she lives with her boyfriend, and we get together once or twice a month. She's happy, I'm happy. I don't have to cruise the streets or order up escorts that may not be "as advertised". She gets a bit of cash to help pay her bills.

The sex is amazing. She's fabulously hot, a bit more than 1/2 my age, and up for almost anything.

In case you're wondering, I met her through another SP years ago for a duo session. She ended up settling down and moving to another city. A few years later, I moved into the same city. I knew her 1st & last name, so I looked her up. Voila! We found each other, and I'll just enjoy it as long as it lasts!

Cheers,
Ribald
 

SeekSteadyRegSP

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The linked story is no big deal on the grand scale.

Were we in Japan it would be high school girls selling the same sexual favors. (and if you think North American men are a smarmy lot, then just read some of the stories from Japan ~ at least women aren't 2nd class citizens here)

"Enjo Kosai" is always a fun phrase to Google.



The point missed by everyone who responds to threads like this is that it isn't just anybody who will accept such work whether it be to pay college tuition or the expense of everyday life. So it isn't quite as if prostitution on the side is an "elective" of a sort.

People are "qualified" by society and usually by close family members at a very young age to even consider such work, and it is only from that pool of now-eligible college students that those who would ever do such a thing are drawn.

(the worst part is that society "qualifies" such individuals for the work and then attempts to put them through a double jeopardy when policing them for it later on) Double jeopardy, so it seems, is only selectively unlawful.

I really yearn for the sort of an arrangement known to "Ribald" (who posted above) but it seems highly unlikely that I will know such good fortune, so I certainly don't make efforts to look for it.
 

braveheart604

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Women become escorts because they need the money. Whether they are a student, single mom, or recently in debt (amongst other reasons). Their motivation for becoming an escort is a reflection of a greater social problem: school is too expensive, supporting children are expensive, etc.

Allow me to give you an example...a girl that I worked with years ago had a husband who beat her and was threatening to beat the children. Out of love for her children she left him and was suddenly a single mom with three kids. The only way to support them alone was by becoming an escort. Is that really a choice, or a reflection of an unfair social environment?

For me, I got into this business because of school. I do not wish to be in debt when I leave. It was an economic choice...not a desire. The majority of escorts get into this business for financial reasons. If they tell you different, it is merely to live up to a stereotype, as a potential customer does not want to hear that you only do it for the money.

Umm so what your essentially saying is that you were forced to choose this life. Im sorry but forced= gun to your head type situation. Simply not wanting to graduate with a debt is not the same as being forced. Most people graduating from University are in debt but how much of the debt is actually repaid? The Canadian Government is actually quite lenient about student debt considering the student population owes 100's of millions of dollars.

Once again i respect people who have the balls to do whatever it takes to survive in this world and make something of themselves but lets not make lame excuses. You took the option of becoming an escort to pay for school while many other women decided to work min wage while on a student loan.

Secondly the original question posed was about students so half of the post is off topic
 

aznboi9

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Anyone ever live in rez???

if so, what's the flipping difference between someone sleeping
with everyone in the whole dorm for free or being smart and
charging for the privilege and paying for their education???

really, what's the frikkin diff???

do all these conservative asshats sending their little precious off
to an ivy league school really believe that it takes more than 15
minutes before she is flat on her back with her legs spread???

Maybe Dubya made it through Harvard a virgin (boning your
frat bros in the ass don't count as sex to conservatives) but you
can bet ol' Billy Goat Clinton was crapping big ones at the thought
of Chelsea getting it on with some liberal horndog!!!
LOL, that's one of the funniest posts I've read in a while.
 

Bartdude

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but there are student loans that one could apply for. The majority of girls who can't afford an education have them and their interest free until your done school. So why take the risks of being an SP when student loans are available to you?
Student loans can be a crushing burden that lasts years and years - especially if the first job(s) you get don't pay that well. Also - student loans don't even come close to covering expenses - even if you work two jobs part time to supplement your income.

Not disagreeing that being an SP can be a choice - but it's a bit simplistic to cough up the "why not just get a student loan" thing, IMO.

Maybe Dubya made it through Harvard a virgin (boning your frat bros in the ass don't count as sex to conservatives) but you
can bet ol' Billy Goat Clinton was crapping big ones at the thought
of Chelsea getting it on with some liberal horndog!!!
ROFLMAO :D

Incidentally,



 

braveheart604

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from a student perspective

Student loans can be a crushing burden that lasts years and years - especially if the first job(s) you get don't pay that well. Also - student loans don't even come close to covering expenses - even if you work two jobs part time to supplement your income.

Not disagreeing that being an SP can be a choice - but it's a bit simplistic to cough up the "why not just get a student loan" thing, IMO.




ROFLMAO :D

Incidentally,




It sounds simplistic because it is that simple for MOST people and like i stated before unless your parents make a lot of money you will get a loan. I got enough of a loan that i do not need to work. i got 10 grand from the government and i had to put in 5 grand of my own money (4500 to be exact) which i saved up from the summer. I only work 4 months a year still manage not to Starve, in fact far from it.

Money management skills i Think have a lot to do with it too.

In BC 10 grand would be enough but out east it isn't which is why you get a loan almost double that of what i go out east as i know ppl at U of T.
 

Bartdude

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It sounds simplistic because it is that simple for MOST people and like i stated before unless your parents make a lot of money you will get a loan. I got enough of a loan that i do not need to work. i got 10 grand from the government and i had to put in 5 grand of my own money (4500 to be exact) which i saved up from the summer. I only work 4 months a year still manage not to Starve, in fact far from it.

Money management skills i Think have a lot to do with it too.

In BC 10 grand would be enough but out east it isn't which is why you get a loan almost double that of what i go out east as i know ppl at U of T.
Um yeah - been there, done that....twice.

Come to Alberta - 10 grand will evaporate in a flash, unless you've got another 10 on the side.

It's not always "money management" - or that simple for everybody. It wasn't for me. Yeah, I survived, but it was tough.

That was my point.
 
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