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CalgaryJenn

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My Phone Call:

caller: Hi is this Jenn?
me: Yes it is.
caller: Hi Jenn my name is ****
me: Hi ****, how are you tonight?
caller: I'm good, can you come over with some art?
me: I might be able to, what time are you thinking?
caller: About 10 minutes or so.
me: Oh sorry, 10 minutes is rather short notice.
caller: What do you mean?
me: Well, what part of the city are you in?
caller: Rockeyview.
me: Oh, I'm in the southeast, it would take more that 10 minutes for me to drive there.
caller: Are you serious? I really wanted you here in about 10 minutes, can you try?
me: No, I won't be able to make it in 10 minutes, hows 30 minutes sound?
caller: No that won't work for me. Why don't we shoot for 10 minutes, it's not that far.
me: I told you, I can't get there in 10 minutes.
caller: Fuck, then what am I supposed to do. If your here in 10 minutes I'll make it worth your while.
me: Sorry, but the flex-capacitor on my time machine broke down and is in getting repairs. Besides, it only works in severe lightning storms as I need to be hit with 1.21 gigawatt to time travel. Marty McFly and Doc are working on it right now. Hopefully it will be up and running soon.
caller: Wow, you don't have to be such a bitch about it.
me: I know, and you don't need to be so numb when I keep telling you it's impossible to be there in 10 minutes.
He hung up

LOL Guys like him kill me. Ten minutes to get ready, cross the city of construction and road repairs. LOL Oh well.
 

wpgguy

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Sounds ike you missed out on a real good appointment with that clown.:rolleyes:

Maybe he was using girlfriend time. You know, "I'll be ready in ten minutes" and an hour later your still waiting.:D
 
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I think he was blowing himself on the other end of the phone.
Just wanted to hear her voice and knowing real that Jenn wouldn't be able to make it in 10 min.
If he had brain and lives in the same city....he would know what she's saying.
I live in Vancouver and I roughly how long it takes to go places.

He's a moron! Definetly someone to laugh at.

Also...if I say I can't make it in 10 min for whatever reason.......what part of that don't you understand.
I would expect that from a 5 yr old kid. We're all adults here. Get real.
 

CalgaryJenn

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My personal opinion is that he was asking for far too much, and you responded very unprofessionally.

This is not the way a professional would have handled it in my opinion. They would have said something like:



He might have accepted this, and you would have a session. But even if you did not want a session with him, you needed to be more politic to him than he was to you. This is just my opinion though. In reality, in business, the customer 'must' be treated with more respect than he gives. He is, after all, the one who has the money.

Sure, do it your way, and yes, he was insistent, unfair, demanding and vulgar. He wasn't pointing his vulgarity at you though. As I said, do it your way as it is, after all, your business. I do not think you handled it very professionally. Just because he was insistent, unfair, demanding and vulgar does not give you license to respond that way and think it is professional.

This is the difference between an amateur and a professional. A professional would have cut it off when they decided they did not want to continue. They would have cut it off without any form of tit for tat response. The amateur does not have that ability. They are to concerned with "getting theirs in" and this is alright, just not professional.
So am I to assume you won't be calling. Hmmmm my loss. NEXT! You have offered your "professional opinion" twice in two days. You must be a great business man. However, it doesn't work for me. I await your professional advice on my 3rd post in a row. Dude, you either like me, or ya don't. Obviousely YOU don't. Life is like that.
 

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I was told I sounded "jaded" because I wouldn't do FS for $80 in 15 minutes.:rolleyes:
I don't know how he got that.
 

CalgaryJenn

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Not at all. I am not one of those demanding sorts. I think you are attractive, and the way you handled that call is your way. You put this out there, and if it was only for praise, then ask for it. I gave you my honest opinion, no more. I certainly would have no issues in requesting some of your time.

But I can not say that I believe you handled it professionally. Do you think you did? Then you respond to my honest critique with another of the same kind of response. Clearly you seem to have issues with control, and an inability to accept critique without a sarcastic response. I will remember in the future, not to respond to your posts unless it will be something positive as critique acceptance is certainly not your forte.

I don't dislike you CJ. I don't understand how you can take this post and extend it to my like or dislike of you. That's not an extension one can safely assume without being told so. Excuse my critique. I will not offer any more.

Edit:

By the way, disagreement and dislike are two entirely different things. They are mutually exclusive until one ties them together. I did no such thing.
Theres telling somebody once, twice, or even three times... But when they nag, I don't care, I will be rude. You can only word it nicely so many times before your spouting hot air for no reason. I've always been to the point.
 

CalgaryJenn

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But you are the one in control CJ. You choose how long to speak to the fellow. When you responded to his insistent, unfair, demanding and vulgar statement with:



You could have easily just told him that you were just unable to fulfil his request and have a good day/night.

You were in control of how long you listened to him. When someone is rude to me, I am in control of how long I will listen to his rudeness. Being professional does not mean you need to accept rudeness. It does mean that one does not respond with like, that's all. Yes, I am a business person, and responded to this post with a business critique, not a personal attack.

If you think that you responded professionally, then that's all that matters at any rate. I am sorry that you took my response as a blanket condemnation or purported dislike of you as that was never my intent.

Excuse my bluntness.

Well, I could have talked to him all night about how I couldn't be there in 10 minutes. Or hung up politely, and he likely would have called back. I have found when they are demanding on the phone, I don't want to see them anyway. 9 oit of 10 times if they are demanding and overpersistant on the phone, they are not a pleasure to be with when you visit them. You have to remember, we deal with drunks, stoners, and the odd time I have shown up where the guy was strung out. From personal experience, the strung out ones are the ones who don't take no for an answer. The same gents I try not to see. I told this fellow 3 or 4 times, "I can't be there in 10 minutes" yet he pushed and pushed. Likely the same kind of guy who thinks no means yes, and yes means yes. Losing him was no skin off my back. I look at it as call screening.
 

Avery

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Ropey, we all would like the ladies in the business to be professional. That term applies to how they book appointments, how well they keep them, how punctual they are, the quality of their service, etc. However, it's a fact of life that they have to put up with a lot of crank calls from guys who have no intention of ever booking them, or, even worse, book them and don't show up, just to jerk them around.

This guy was probably doing a double jerk - jerking Jenn around and jerking himself off. I've seen Jenn twice, and she is professional and personable. I didn't have a chance to have a deep conversation with her (as orally talented as she is, she still can't talk with her mouth full :D ). However, I could tell within seconds of meeting her that she doesn't suffer fools gladly. Neither do I, so that's a plus in my book. She gave that guy enough of her time, even after it was clear he was an asshole. She has the absolute right to refuse to do business with anyone, and, in this case, the guy wasn't even an existing customer. He was possibly a prospective customer, but I doubt it.
 

CalgaryJenn

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Ropey, we all would like the ladies in the business to be professional. That term applies to how they book appointments, how well they keep them, how punctual they are, the quality of their service, etc. However, it's a fact of life that they have to put up with a lot of crank calls from guys who have no intention of ever booking them, or, even worse, book them and don't show up, just to jerk them around.

This guy was probably doing a double jerk - jerking Jenn around and jerking himself off. I've seen Jenn twice, and she is professional and personable. I didn't have a chance to have a deep conversation with her (as orally talented as she is, she still can't talk with her mouth full :D ). However, I could tell within seconds of meeting her that she doesn't suffer fools gladly. Neither do I, so that's a plus in my book. She gave that guy enough of her time, even after it was clear he was an asshole. She has the absolute right to refuse to do business with anyone, and, in this case, the guy wasn't even an existing customer. He was possibly a prospective customer, but I doubt it.
Your always a treat :D I'm practicing talking with my mouth FULL for you ;) So far it only sounds like the teacher from the Peanuts cartoon.
 

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Good for you Jenn...

Well Jenn, I see nothing wrong with what you said. Sure, it might've seemed a little sarcastic and whatnot, but you know what, someone asking to be there in ten mins is probably NOT going to make it worth your while to begin with...but heck, I didn't even need to say that. You are a smart girl and you already knew that. Some guys even like a girl with a little fire in their belly. God only knows how important it is so stand your ground and be yourself.

I believe in being nice to everyone, but hey, if they're gonna believe you can morph into super woman and fly yourself there at any hour, or any time, I say be realistic...and you obviously tried that before reverting to your other response.
 

georgebushmoron

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Ropey, we all would like the ladies in the business to be professional. ....

This guy was probably doing a double jerk - jerking Jenn around and jerking himself off.
In my opinion, there's a time to be professional, and there's a time to handle certain people in a different manner.

After being emphatic (and polite) about not being able to make it in 10 minutes, particularly this customer who has no previous "business relationship" with Jenn, if I had been her I would have said this:

"FUCK YOU ASSHOLE". Then hang up. It would have been a reasonable response and something he deserved.
 

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Jenn ... I thought your response about the time machine was humorous and very quick witted and still professional / appropriate. It is great when you can convey your point with such a great illustration. You were not derogatory just trying to make him understand. At some point customers in lots of businesses must be dealt with in a firm and direct manner while still being courteous. ... When you get your flex capacitor fixed use it to get to Vancouver sooner.
 

georgebushmoron

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I'm happy you are not her. What if he is a psychopath, and takes what she says to the kind of degree to which these people are capable?

He says to himself, "FUCK YOU ASSHOLE"? and extends it to, "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TALKING TO??? I'LL SHOW YOU!!".

He then sets an event up. Phones her and books an appointment on outcall . . .

I'm sure you get my drift.... And this not only can, it DOES happen.

Thank G-D you are not her. I still think that a polite response is the best route. At any rate, I've made my thoughts clear and to repeat them is useless.
Sorry, you're right. I completely ignored that she is an independent. I usually only deal with MP girls, who have greater privacy. Frankly, I don't know how any woman can feel safe operating as an independent unless she has a very good security setup. But alas, it's not a risk I'd be willing to take, nor let a loved one take without great reservations. Good luck Jenn. I trust you know what you're doing.

By the way, stop using that "G-D" orthodox Jew stuff will ya? Jehovah does not concern himself with prostitution boards nor the 20th century English spelling of His name and other piddly human nonsense.
 

big k

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Ropey

i think we got your position about professionalism in your first post- I'm
glad you're done. At the end of the day I am sure that SP's get to deal
with some real assholes on the phone-way more than any of us would
have to in real life. Give her a break and give her credit for engaging some
moron in some mind games .She just returned what he started.
 

CalgaryJenn

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Sorry, you're right. I completely ignored that she is an independent. I usually only deal with MP girls, who have greater privacy. Frankly, I don't know how any woman can feel safe operating as an independent unless she has a very good security setup. But alas, it's not a risk I'd be willing to take, nor let a loved one take without great reservations. Good luck Jenn. I trust you know what you're doing.
;) I have security. :D Any girl would be crazy without it.
 

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LOL

I am a multi-tasker. :) Yes, I know what you are saying by extension, I just will not respond to it. :p And after all, this is all opinion and like ******, everyone has one. Please don't anyone take my opinion to be right. Opinions are not right or wrong. They are just views. Disagreements are the spice and variety of life. :D
Starting to sound a bit like jj and look what happened to him. You are right, an opinion is an opinion, right or wrong as they may be. jj also had views of things and look where they led to. I'd say you expressed your opinion, others disagreed with it, so why not leave it at that ? I personally think Jenn handled it the right way. The GBM approach may have been a bit much, unless the guy insisted or had called back. See, there I agree with you. Some people are unreasonable in their demands and no amount of professionalism is going to get them to back off or see reason. No matter what profession you are in, there is no reason for anybody to put up with crap from a customer or potential customer. The customer is not always right.
 

CalgaryJenn

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I'll admit. I have met some of the coolest people on short notice. However, there are some, who ALWAYS call:
"Jenn, I'm in the area, can we meet in 5 minutes or so?"
Because all I do is sit at home with my cooter soaking and waiting for that call so that I'm ready on a minutes notice. I have abandoned all ties with friends and family so I can sit in my tub and wait for the call. I no longer shop for groceries or clothes, because it takes time away from my cooter cleaning and soaking time. All I do is sit in a tub with my bluetooth in my ear, anxiousely waiting. When the phone rings, I spring to life and I'm yours.
Gheesh.
Occasionally I can do 30 minutes, but 45 minutes to and hour is realistic. There is the odd time where I'm jumping out of the bath or a shower and the call comes in... Ok, 15 - maybe 20 minutes. Why? Because if my hair is wet, no makeup and so on, you know there will be a review saying, "The bitch was wet, and smelled like body wash, no makeup, and she wore a towel."
I love what I do, but every now and then, you run into that one person who is sharing half a brain cell with somebody else...
 

CalgaryJenn

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Hey...at least you would be fresh...so he shouldn't complain.:)

Oh Lawd...that cracks me up.

You keep doing your thang Jenn...better than being bitter for the rest of the day.
Shhhh I'm soaking. LOL A call might come in. I hope he doesn't mind me looking like a prune. After all 18 hours of soaking, something has to wrinkle.
 

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The only thing I see Ropey,is that ya keep going on,and on,and on,and on,an,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well,,you get the idea:D
Nothing wrong with stating an opinion or two,,just don't beat it to death:)
 
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