Am I Bi-Sexual?

[georgebushmoron]

WHAT>??????? Is that a joke?? Bisexuality does not exist? What planet are you living on?

You're bisexual if you're attracted to both sexes and like to have sex with (or want to have sex with) both sexes. There are lots of people out there who are like this. It's normal and very real.

"Bisexual" is just a label. To say that it means someone who likes to have sex with both sexes is so trivial it's meaningless. It sheds no light on sexual behaviour and what parts of that we associate with identity. There is really only what we believe is in us (male or female) which determines our sexual desire, which is always the opposite (female or male). Thus there is only gay or straight, because the straight person believes his/her inner gender matches his/her outer genitalia and desires a person whose outer genitalia is the counterpart. The gay person believes their inner gender does not match their outer genitalia at all (or partly) and so they desire a person whose outer genitalia is the counterpart to that. That's also why gays are often "shades" of gay because their inner gender is a portion of both male and female, and what you call "bisexual" is merely that these people have both gender identities within them. Nevertheless, if the inner gender does not match the outer genitalia, it is gender identity confusion. You see, gender desire really stems from identity.

 

[wannabeslut]

"Bisexual" is just a label. To say that it means someone who likes to have sex with both sexes is so trivial it's meaningless. It sheds no light on sexual behaviour and what parts of that we associate with identity. There is really only what we believe is in us (male or female) which determines our sexual desire, which is always the opposite (female or male). Thus there is only gay or straight, because the straight person believes his/her inner gender matches his/her outer genitalia and desires a person whose outer genitalia is the counterpart. The gay person believes their inner gender does not match their outer genitalia at all (or partly) and so they desire a person whose outer genitalia is the counterpart to that. That's also why gays are often "shades" of gay because their inner gender is a portion of both male and female, and what you call "bisexual" is merely that these people have both gender identities within them. Nevertheless, if the inner gender does not match the outer genitalia, it is gender identity confusion. You see, gender desire really stems from identity.

No. Someone can be perfectly happy being a woman, and feel comfortable with that identity, and desire women sexually. Vice versa for men.

Some people are attracted to both sexes. Simple as that. You don't have to call it anything if you don't want to, but for most people it's easier to have a word for something.

To say that people are only attracted to one or the other is absurd, because it's clearly not true. Look at the world around you.

 

[georgebushmoron]

No. Someone can be perfectly happy being a woman, and feel comfortable with that identity, and desire women sexually. Vice versa for men.

I never said anything about happiness (or unhappiness for that matter). I'm sure there are lots of happy gay or straight people out there, being gay or straight has absolutely no bearing on perceived happiness. Don't take what I said to mean anything else than what I said.

To say that people are only attracted to one or the other is absurd, because it's clearly not true. Look at the world around you.

I never said that. I said the dynamics of desire are such that what a person identifies with internally as a gender can have no match to their outer genitalia, but it always is attracted to the opposite outer genitalia - and if the identity within is both, will be desiring the outer genitalia of both. If you bothered to read what I had stated plain and clear, is that some people are both (and not what you accuse me of saying, that is attracted to only one).

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

So if a guy is attracted to both sexes is he not heterosexual and
homosexual at the same time. Another words goes both ways.
Bi in my opinion George is not a lable really. It definately describes a persons choosing of both sexes.

If you choose only one sex as attractive that is a "mono" attractor.
If you choose two sexes to be with that is the plural......"Bi"
As in a mono plane or biplane. One wing or two wings.

So therefore the term "Bi" in my opinion fits the description of that type
of person to their sexual preference. No different than some weirdo
whackjob who wants to fuck my goat up the ass. That's known as
bestiality. So what's in a label.

(Hmmm, I think I just heard a cheer from gravitas wherever he is.)

To answer the original posters question. If you desire anything sexual or
intimate from the same sex your friggin queer or gay or a fag or whatever the term is and just as it is your right to say "but that's okay" it's also my right
to say I find it repulsive. Not that we were asked this to begin with of
course.

And believe it or not.......that is okay too !


..............QM'r

 

[wannabeslut]

I never said anything about happiness (or unhappiness for that matter). I'm sure there are lots of happy gay or straight people out there, being gay or straight has absolutely no bearing on perceived happiness. Don't take what I said to mean anything else than what I said.





I never said that. I said the dynamics of desire are such that what a person identifies with internally as a gender can have no match to their outer genitalia, but it always is attracted to the opposite outer genitalia - and if the identity within is both, will be desiring the outer genitalia of both. If you bothered to read what I had stated plain and clear, is that some people are both (and not what you accuse me of saying, that is attracted to only one).

Good grief! I don't even know where to begin. The homophobia and backwardness you display are just absolutely shocking to me. Shocking.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

You're gay. There's no such thing as "bi". Anything outside of desire for sex with the opposite sex, even if you're not attracted but still desire it, is not straight but gay. And just because you like to have sex with members of both sexes doesn't make you bi because it actually does not exist. You're simply gay. To add another definition such as "bi" is to slice hairs endwise and has no productive use. To label yourself in any case has little value anyways.

Attraction is meaningless in determining sexual orientation. This is largely because attraction changes with life experience. So your not being attracted to men now does not mean you won't find them attractive later, or you're just attracted to men who are so effeminate they behave like women but they are few and far between in your life experience as it stands today.

That you desire a man to fuck your ass hard is very telling. You desire male form of sexual energy to couple with. That is what makes you gay. Heterosexual men desire feminine sexual energy to couple with. The more extreme the feminine sexual energy, the more straight they are. The less extreme the feminine sexual energy the female has, the more male sexual energy they will then have, and the more you desire that, the closer you are to being gay. You're probably quite effeminate yourself, which is why you sometimes seek males to have sex with.

And I would like to add that what I mean by "energy" is not the zest with which they engage in sex, but the thematic orientation that is either male or female.

Jesus man, what bloody decade are you living in?

For someone who so readily screams racist (rather PC/progressive) you are incredibly intolerant and homophobic. I don't get you at all.

You information is frankly WRONG and you are talking out of your ass. Do you have a degree in human sexuality? Somehow I doubt it.

You are officially going on my ignore list, as I have zero intellectual respect for you after this ridiculous post.

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That being said. BC-Boy, you are probably bi. You are definitely not gay. I'm with Calgary Jenn on this one. I like cock. I like pussy. Liking pussy does not make me a lesbian.

Keep in mind that there is a whole spectrum of of human sexuality, research is showing (from people who actually study sexuality... not moron on a review board).

If you fantasize about getting down with Russell Crowe (or even Orlando Bloom or Jude Law) you are definitely not straight. If you dig girls and like having sex with them, you are definitely not gay. If you like men who look and act just like women (like TS Solaya), but have a cock... well.... you might be primarily straight but just like cock. Flesh DOES feel better than any artificial protuberance ever will. You might just be into the sensation of getting shagged with a real cock than being really into guys.

Whatever the case is, don't stress, whatever you may be, it is far more common than you can imagine, despite the hetero chest thumping and gay bashing going on here.

Cheers hon. PM/email me if you want to chat.

~Iz

 

[georgebushmoron]

Good grief! I don't even know where to begin. The homophobia and backwardness you display are just absolutely shocking to me. Shocking.

Why do you call this homophobia or backwardness?? I was just explaining that for a man to desire sex with a man, he must be identified internally at least partially as a female, which is counter to his own physical gender as evidenced by his genitalia. This is what I labeled as "gender confusion". A number of psychiatrists and psychologists adopt this view, the most famous to espouse it was none other than Karl Jung. Many would be hard pressed to label him homophobic, being as "New Age" and esoteric as he led his life and in his writings. In fact, it was he who stated that the human sexuality is the projection of our internal self onto the counterpart of the other.

I think you were needlessly offended. In order to discuss such matters you need to ensure you're not going to be personally offended at the slightest variation from your own beliefs. In fact, heterosexuals were equally offended as you were by Karl Jung when he illustrated his point by stating that muscular he-man types were the most likely to desire over-exaggerated females (ie: overly large breasts, very long hair, high voices, submissive dispositions, etc.). It just goes to show that the study of sexual identity and behaviour should be just that, a study. It was not meant to be an opinion on the gender politics of the day.

 

[LaCreme]

my dog love to smell in the park but he is not gay

WHAT>??????? Is that a joke?? Bisexuality does not exist? What planet are you living on?

You're bisexual if you're attracted to both sexes and like to have sex with (or want to have sex with) both sexes. There are lots of people out there who are like this. It's normal and very real.

i think he ( Mr. President)**had a very good explanation and the "energy couple" oh la la is awesome .. the "bi" come on we all know it doesn't exist.. he just admit he love to be bang bang by men so that make him "gay" ..

by playing "Bi" that make him play safe to look "normal".i don't think is nothing to do with the size of his sex organ " the life style" the lack of missing pussy.. i don't know what make gay be gay. sure thing i love making love to a passionate french men or a big dick or a small who fuck like a rabbit and know for sure he want a pussy..

it feel weird as a Sp to be ask by a young cute male please fuck me in my ass and yessss Miss LaCreme i want to be your bitch.. i am like is O.k to be my bitch but to fuck you in your ass it make me feel like my women sexy Marilyn Monroe type is not enough

LaCreme

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

i think he ( Mr. President)**had a very good explanation and the "energy couple" oh la la is awesome .. the "bi" come on we all know it doesn't exist.. he just admit he love to be bang bang by men so that make him "gay" ..

by playing "Bi" that make him play safe to look "normal".i don't think is nothing to do with the size of his sex organ " the life style" the lack of missing pussy.. i don't know what make gay be gay. sure thing i love making love to a passionate french men or a big dick or a small who fuck like a rabbit and know for sure he want a pussy..

it feel weird as a Sp to be ask by a young cute male please fuck me in my ass and yessss Miss LaCreme i want to be your bitch.. i am like is O.k to be my bitch but to fuck you in your ass it make me feel like my women sexy Marilyn Monroe type is not enough

LaCreme

Ms La Creme,

I know English is not your 1st or even your 2nd language. And I know you've had a hard life. But do you have any education in human sexuality (in an academic setting) beyond being an SP? Somehow I don't think so, so I don't think your "opinion" has any more merit that GBM.

Neither of you have any idea what you are talking about.

And as for the whole "male energy" that takes place with two men. Yup. When they are men. If his experience is with transgendered people.... they aren't "men"! They think of themselves as women and act like it. Their energy is like that of women.

I have trans friends, and trust me, MtFs are more F than M.

 

[aznboi9]

For someone who so readily screams racist (rather PC/progressive) you are incredibly intolerant and homophobic. I don't get you at all.

For someone who seems so readily exasperated by overly enthusiastic accusations of the "racist" label from the PC crowd, you are incredibly quick to throw labels out yourself. His post did not strike me as homophobic but as his views on what criteria he believes go into qualifying as “gay” or “straight” and his belief on the lack of existence of the person being “bi”. Incidentally, I strongly disagree with his post; but I don’t believe he mentioned anything about the rightness or wrongness of being gay or bi.

You information is frankly WRONG and you are talking out of your ass. Do you have a degree in human sexuality? Somehow I doubt it.

You are officially going on my ignore list, as I have zero intellectual respect for you after this ridiculous post.

GBM was merely stating his opinion; and I don’t recall him ever making a claim to being an expert. Think what you will, but even though I don’t always agree with what GBM says, I do know from past history that he’s generally open to reasonable discussion and doesn’t seem to desperately cling to some ideological viewpoint, unlike some on this board.

 

[OTBn]

Ms La Creme,

I know English is not your 1st or even your 2nd language. And I know you've had a hard life. But do you have any education in human sexuality (in an academic setting) beyond being an SP? Somehow I don't think so, so I don't think your "opinion" has any more merit that GBM.

Neither of you have any idea what you are talking about.

That’s why they’re called opinions – no more/less valid than any others. How does one know the education (level) of anyone on an anonymous discussion board… unless you’re a self-professed internet dokTor… for that matter, does a formal education authenticate my opinion/your opinion… does it provide, as you say, “more merit”… uhhh, on an anonymous discussion board?

That you would be so quick to press the Ignore Button – oh my… such select inclusiveness in your world.

By the way, where does a patronizing “hard life” remark factor into the, as you say, “merit” of one’s opinion/post?

To add another definition such as "bi" is to slice hairs endwise and has no productive use.

Well, not to purposely divert the discussion down the nature versus nurture path; however, as we’ve been down this path in another thread… it would seem a proponent of the environment nurture influence would more readily accept, even if only by “label” attachment, something that fosters a sexual preference “choice” option… something like another (“bi”) definition, another “choice” option.

Saying that “nobody is bisexual”, that “you’re gay”, denies the bisexual experience, making bisexuality a meaningless distinction. Are you born bisexual… or do you choose to be bisexual? … wait a minute… you mean you can choose your sexual preference?

When does the bisexual act extend fully into the bisexual identity… moving from “temporary” experimentation to integral makeup? Are bisexuals making the “wrong choice”… or can they in fact choose?

 

[Olmac]

I have trans friends, and trust me, MtFs are more F than M.

No shit, I have seen some MtFs on the Maury show that look and act more female than females. I usually guess which is female and which is MtF wrong about 70% of the time.

 

[Cosmo]

In a game of baseball it matters not whether you catch or pitch.

You are still a baseball player...

Yeah, but he's a ball player... who is now playin for the 'other' team.

 

[BC_Boy]

That being said. BC-Boy, you are probably bi. You are definitely not gay. I'm with Calgary Jenn on this one. I like cock. I like pussy. Liking pussy does not make me a lesbian.

Keep in mind that there is a whole spectrum of of human sexuality, research is showing (from people who actually study sexuality... not moron on a review board).

If you fantasize about getting down with Russell Crowe (or even Orlando Bloom or Jude Law) you are definitely not straight. If you dig girls and like having sex with them, you are definitely not gay. If you like men who look and act just like women (like TS Solaya), but have a cock... well.... you might be primarily straight but just like cock. Flesh DOES feel better than any artificial protuberance ever will. You might just be into the sensation of getting shagged with a real cock than being really into guys.

Whatever the case is, don't stress, whatever you may be, it is far more common than you can imagine, despite the hetero chest thumping and gay bashing going on here.

Cheers hon. PM/email me if you want to chat.

~Iz

Pretty much the best reply. As mentioned before, I have no sexual interest in men or cock and I have no desire to fuck a guy or a tranny. Heck, the thought of having my mouth or hands on someone elses cock gives me the heeby jeezys. All i know is I like taking it in the ass, and toys just don't do it for me.

One more thing, I forget to mention this but I haven't been fucked by an actual dude. I've only been with a tranny, and I'm looking for a caucasian tranny that has a 99.9% feminine look (except for that one surprise) and has a normal feminine voice. So if anyone knows of any..........

 

[jjinvan]

I enjoy taking it up the ass, and I prefer a real cock as opposed to a dildo cause it feels better. and I enjoy receiving a facial.

I have no sexual interest in men or cock

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I haven't been fucked by an actual dude. I've only been with a tranny

Ok, you need to be a bit more honest with yourself, seriously.

If you like having a hard cock rammed up your ass, then you DO have a sexual interest in cocks, unless you're saying that it is something OTHER than sexual to have a dick rammed up your ass?

Next, you enjoy receiving facials. Umm... care to explain that one in the context of not having a sexual interest in men or cocks?

Now, one could theoretically argue that a TRANSEXUAL or a 'guy' with androgen insensitivity (Jamie Lee Curtis for example, or that 'supermodel' on the House episode a while back) is very feminine and girl-like and being attracted to or having sex with one doesn't mean you aren't heterosexual. Sure.

But, if the person in question has a 'hard dick' that they can 'ram up your ass' then they are NOT a transexual. I believe that by 'Tranny' you mean transvestite perhaps?

If someone has a 'hard dick' that is a natural part of their body (not a strap-on) then they are a dude. End of story.

You were fucked by a dude.

 

[metoo113]

Good grief! I don't even know where to begin. The homophobia and backwardness you display are just absolutely shocking to me. Shocking.

You just have to look at his handle to understand.

BC-BOY should really be talking to a professional who is experienced in gender issues and not posting on a escort review board. He needs some help to define his sexual identity.

 

[jjinvan]

By the way..

There's nothing 'wrong' with wanting what you want or liking what you like.

But, you do need to stop trying to explain it away as something other than homosexual activity.

As far as the definitions go, by the way, I think people are getting a bit mixed up on the definitions.

Heterosexual = Someone who has sex with the opposite sex.

Homosexual = Someone who has sex with the same sex.

Bisexual = Someone who is both homosexual and heterosexual.

Remember those venn diagrams from elementary school math class? Where you had U and V and you had the intersection of the two in the middle?

bisexuals are in that 'intersection' part.

So, saying that a bisexual is a homosexual is correct, but not complete.

 

[LaCreme]

you know my french is sexy deal with it!

Ms La Creme,

I know English is not your 1st or even your 2nd language. And I know you've had a hard life. But do you have any education in human sexuality (in an academic setting) beyond being an SP? Somehow I don't think so, so I don't think your "opinion" has any more merit that GBM.

Neither of you have any idea what you are talking about.

And as for the whole "male energy" that takes place with two men. Yup. When they are men. If his experience is with transgendered people.... they aren't "men"! They think of themselves as women and act like it. Their energy is like that of women.

I have trans friends, and trust me, MtFs are more F than M.

AH thx to focus in me.. but sweetie i wasn't talking to you.
maybe you should "read" everybody previous post to understand!
if you don't simply just read again because in here it is a**wonder full**mind dynamic maybe you didn't see it . if i am bi.hummm
i much more a voyeur when it come to women. hey Sweetie you have great tits believe me i wont go threw the random licking them..i have other**plan when it come to women..

also since i am a young kid i have all type of weird and normal**friends. including homo & trans.
i love them all. because they all have something to bring..
you know what Ropey As a good idea on it

Enjoy sex with both genders = bisexual
Enjoy sex with opposite gender only = heterosexual
Enjoy sex with same gender only = homosexual
Enjoy sex with cross gender and opposite gender = bisexual leaning towards heterosexual
Enjoy sex with cross gender and same gender = bisexual leaning towards homosexual
Enjoy anything sexual = trysexual = try anything that feels good

yeah for real. that the way to do it.


LaCreme


Hey if the word "GAY" you dont like? then change it. who care

 

[jjinvan]

BC-BOY should really be talking to a professional who is experienced in gender issues and not posting on a escort review board. He needs some help to define his sexual identity.

Good luck finding two 'professionals' in the field who will agree.

That particular can of worms has become so political that he wouldn't get much help from any of the so called professionals in the field.

But, fundamentally, if he's happy, it's all good. If he's unhappy he needs to have a long hard think and figure out what he's unhappy about.

I think the issue definately goes further than physical sensation and prostate massage though. Although everyone seems to have focused on that and ignored the fact that he has stated that he also really likes to receive facials (and I don't think he's talking about a cucumber mud pack... ok, I didn't even make THAT joke on purpose).

 

[TotallyTouchin]

Or....

He could not worry about LABELS period and if he wants to get down with a hot TS then friday he does that....if he wants to get down with a hot chick saturday he does that.

Labels get us in trouble. In this case and with this forum...we are in no position (oops...haha) to judge as we don't know.

BC Boy, do what makes you happy. No need to concern yourself with labels. Your sexuality is your own buisness. Let it unfold how you please...nothing wrong with experimenting at all! I say do it! And write some killer reviews....you seem to know your likes and dislikes well so who cares what others would deem you.

You are a red blooded male who likes sex. That's who you are. Rock on!