Newer here for guidance

[edwardslee]

Hi everyone,

I’ve been lurking for a little while and finally decided to make an account. I read through the forum rules and some of the older introduction posts (including this https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/vancouver-visitors-guide-2024.364366/), but since a lot of them were written a couple of years ago, I wasn’t sure how much has changed.

1. I just moved to Canada, in Vancouver, a few months ago, so I’m still trying to figure out how things work here. As a new person, my biggest concern is probably the cops. From what I’ve read, I understand Canada has the Nordic model, and a lot of people here have said that police generally don’t pay much attention to consensual transactions. But I also saw the Richmond RCMP operation earlier this year, so I’m wondering whether anything has changed recently, or if things are still pretty much the same as before.

Based on my understanding, as far as the provider is real, it should be safe from cops?

2. My second question is about locations. I’ve noticed that a lot of providers seem to work out of the same apartment buildings, while others are in buildings with only one or two providers. Is there any practical difference between the two? I’m mostly thinking about safety rather than convenience. I’ve also seen some Reddit posts saying residents in certain Richmond buildings complain about the traffic caused by escorts and threaten people not to come (see some posts like this on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/richmondbc/s/cjqRFAg1Ob), so I wasn’t sure whether that’s something people actually consider.

3. Another question is about different areas. I’m in Vancouver, and I’m mainly looking for East Asian providers. It seems like most of them are in Richmond and Burnaby. Is that just where they’re concentrated, or are there similar options downtown that I just haven’t come across yet? I came across some agencies such as Korean604, XDS, Private paradise, Foxy604, Icon604, Night Owl. I wonder if these are reliable agencies for my needs.

4. Last question 😂 Does the time of day make any difference when booking? I’m asking because it’s kind of tied to my earlier questions—just trying to stay low-key.

Sorry if any of these have obvious answers—I tried searching first, but I figured I’d ask since some of the older posts are a bit dated.

Thanks in advance! I’d really appreciate hearing any advice or experiences from people here.

 

[Pumped]

There are some agencies that advertise on here that would meet your needs discretely and without attracting the cops.

If you go to people and places advertised on LeoList (LL) then you will increase your chances of things simply not going right.

It's that simple. Paying a bit more for a decent place/person is less likely to attract the wrong attention.

An agency like Girls Gone West (yes, they advertise here, do a search) would be a good place to start.

 

[GeeBeeP]

I can only respond to the first part of your query, as I’m not in Vancouver, however the general rule I follow in terms of legality applies everywhere.

Stick to established and well reviewed providers and you should have no problems. Indy’s who advertise here on PERB or Tryst, and agencies that have a proven track record. While there have been a few notable exceptions, for the most part LE are rightly going after trafficers and the johns who take advantage of underage and vulnerable women. Steer clear of that shit and you should be able to rest easy.

 

[edwardslee]

There are some agencies that advertise on here that would meet your needs discretely and without attracting the cops.

If you go to people and places advertised on LeoList (LL) then you will increase your chances of things simply not going right.

It's that simple. Paying a bit more for a decent place/person is less likely to attract the wrong attention.

An agency like Girls Gone West (yes, they advertise here, do a search) would be a good place to start.

Thanks for sharing your ideas, Pumped. I think I will be sure to start with an agency.

 

[edwardslee]

I can only respond to the first part of your query, as I’m not in Vancouver, however the general rule I follow in terms of legality applies everywhere.

Stick to established and well reviewed providers and you should have no problems. Indy’s who advertise here on PERB or Tryst, and agencies that have a proven track record. While there have been a few notable exceptions, for the most part LE are rightly going after trafficers and the johns who take advantage of underage and vulnerable women. Steer clear of that shit and you should be able to rest easy.

Thank you GBP. Of course I will stay away the vulnerable or the underage. That's never my purpose

 

[Pumped]

Thanks for sharing your ideas, Pumped. I think I will be sure to start with an agency.

It is a good place to start and as you get to know this hobby you can start venturing out in different directions.

But staying away from AMPs and LeoList is the best advice anyone can give you.

Have fun!

 

[edwardslee]

It is a good place to start and as you get to know this hobby you can start venturing out in different directions.

But staying away from AMPs and LeoList is the best advice anyone can give you.

Have fun!

That is very kind advice, thx! Just to double-check by “AMP,” do you mean actual massage place, not agencies like XDS or K604 that mostly list Asian providers, right?

 

[westwoody]

AMPs are generally better than agencies for beginners because you see what you are getting.
Less chance of blatant bait and switch.
Agencies plop someone on your doorstep and can lead to awkward situations.

 

[80watts]

Just a question, if you are new here.... and to Canada

How do you explain this?

"2. My second question is about locations. I’ve noticed that a lot of providers seem to work out of the same apartment buildings, while others are in buildings with only one or two providers. Is there any practical difference between the two? I’m mostly thinking about safety rather than convenience. I’ve also seen some Reddit posts saying residents in certain Richmond buildings complain about the traffic caused by escorts and threaten people not to come (see some posts like this on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/richmondbc/s/cjqRFAg1Ob), so I wasn’t sure whether that’s something people actually consider."

This statement would require alot of legwork (on Perb searching for apartments) or making appointment to SPs.

So my math is like this:
3 apartment buildings (3-6 providers in each apartment) 9-18 appointments
7-10 apartments (with 2 SPs). 14 to 20 appointments

Then consider you would have to sample at minimum another (9 + 14) buildings (single SP only) to come up with (same apartments (3X SP) and other apartments (2X SP)).

That is at minimum (9 + 14 + 9 = 32 ) appointments

In my experience you have to make an appointment to find out where the apartment is.

 

[edwardslee]

Just a question, if you are new here.... and to Canada

How do you explain this?

"2. My second question is about locations. I’ve noticed that a lot of providers seem to work out of the same apartment buildings, while others are in buildings with only one or two providers. Is there any practical difference between the two? I’m mostly thinking about safety rather than convenience. I’ve also seen some Reddit posts saying residents in certain Richmond buildings complain about the traffic caused by escorts and threaten people not to come (see some posts like this on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/richmondbc/s/cjqRFAg1Ob), so I wasn’t sure whether that’s something people actually consider."

This statement would require alot of legwork (on Perb searching for apartments) or making appointment to SPs.

So my math is like this:
3 apartment buildings (3-6 providers in each apartment) 9-18 appointments
7-10 apartments (with 2 SPs). 14 to 20 appointments

Then consider you would have to sample at minimum another (9 + 14) buildings (single SP only) to come up with (same apartments (3X SP) and other apartments (2X SP)).

That is at minimum (9 + 14 + 9 = 32 ) appointments

In my experience you have to make an appointment to find out where the apartment is.

Ahaha. I didn’t make appointments just to figure that out, I noticed that a couple of agencies actually list or hint at the buildings/addresses on their websites or channels, so that’s where the impression came from.

 

[edwardslee]

AMPs are generally better than agencies for beginners because you see what you are getting.
Less chance of blatant bait and switch.
Agencies plop someone on your doorstep and can lead to awkward situations.

Very sensible, but I wonder if AMPs are riskier to stings than agencies?

 

[oldshark]

Very sensible, but I wonder if AMPs are riskier to stings than agencies?

A temporary AMP for a sting is hard to set up. The police would need the co-operation of an AMP owner and I don't thing that that will take place to catch random pooners.

 

[Once you go black]

AMPs are generally better than agencies for beginners because you see what you are getting.
Less chance of blatant bait and switch.
Agencies plop someone on your doorstep and can lead to awkward situations.

Not really a comment on agencies per say ,
but I’ve been B&S’d more times than I care to admit by micros on LL.

Unfortunately, after all the pain in the ass stuff involved in getting to and finding some of the buildings , 7 out of 10 times I just give in and stay ,

even though I know this person is not what I wanted and chances are 90% that the service will not be great .

Best case scenario in these situations is if either ,
the service is good ,
or the sp is easy on the eyes but mediocre service .

But even this best case scenario almost never happens in these situations for me .