Was the sexual revolution of the 1960s or 1970s a good deal for women at the end of the day?

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Recently I read a book where the author was questioning whether the women's liberation movement - particularly with the invention of the contraceptive pill was a good thing.

The author's take on this is while it was liberating in so many ways, with women freed up to do more and achieve more, the flip side of the outcome has been one where women have to do a lot more themselves...taking on more the masculine role, and losing some of the feminine side for "having things magically happen without having to do everything themselves" - including the traditional role of men as a producer for women (and men having to adapt to the new reality as well)...more women single, often frustrated with the whole relationship thing (despite still having the hormonal drive to reproduce and perhaps daunting having to take on so much more herself)...Sort of an overall loss of feminine energy and more masculine energy all around...from reading the book, I was left with "was this a desirable outcome for women?"

I am not endorsing the author one way or another incidentally...just reporting on what was written and interesting perspective. There was no suggestion to go back to how things were prior... Things are now at where they are and kind of accepting the new reality.

I think science fiction often is a good precursor to possible futures where things go... Usually points to a world where it is less common to have babies how they have been conceived up until now and relationships more AI driven... And gender roles becoming even more unrecognizable...

There is another fascinating book with a woman author I also read about the birth control pill how the change in hormones due to the pill actually has women attract more feminine/ less masculine men... Higher estrogen levels actually attract more men with higher levels of testosterone... pretty mind-blowing...but the opposite happens with the pill and sort of leading to a world where women procreate with more effeminate men over time and testosterone levels drop in men gradually...

Kind of reminded me of the movie / documentary "Idiocracy" how the IQ of the world population drops by lower IQ people having more babies and higher IQ people having fewer or no babies!

The whole thing seems like a never ending evolving social experiment...
 
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Recently I read a book where the author was questioning whether the women's liberation movement - particularly with the invention of the contraceptive pill was a good thing.

The author's take on this is while it was liberating in so many ways, with women freed up to do more and achieve more, the flip side of the outcome has been one where women have to do a lot more themselves...taking on more the masculine role, and losing some of the feminine side for "having things magically happen without having to do everything themselves" - including the traditional role of men as a producer for women (and men having to adapt to the new reality as well)...more women single, often frustrated with the whole relationship thing (despite still having the hormonal drive to reproduce and perhaps daunting having to take on so much more herself)...Sort of an overall loss of feminine energy and more masculine energy all around...from reading the book, I was left with "was this a desirable outcome for women?"

I am not endorsing the author one way or another incidentally...just reporting on what was written and interesting perspective. There was no suggestion to go back to how things were prior... Things are now at where they are and kind of accepting the new reality.

I think science fiction often is a good precursor to possible futures where things go... Usually points to a world where it is less common to have babies how they have been conceived up until now and relationships more AI driven... And gender roles becoming even more unrecognizable...

There is another fascinating book with a woman author I also read about the birth control pill how the change in hormones due to the pill actually has women attract more feminine/ less masculine men... Higher estrogen levels actually attract more men with higher levels of testosterone... pretty mind-blowing... Sort of leading to a world where women procreate with more effeminate men over time and testosterone levels drop in men gradually...

Kind of reminded me of the movie / documentary "Idiocracy" how the IQ of the world population drops by lower IQ people having more babies and higher IQ people having fewer or no babies!

The whole thing seems like a never ending evolving social experiment...
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Check out Mary Harrington (also some videos on YouTube) regarding the feminist movement which lead to resources...and Dr. Sarah E. Hill has done extensive research on how the birth control pill actually changes who women are naturally attracted through the mechanism of action of the pill to change estrogen levels... She has YouTube videos on this and books... fascinating stuff to think that this actually changes who women want to procreate with and the enormous implications of this how things played out from there...she even talks about how that even goes as far as recognition of mismatch in partners after coming off the pill ...
 
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