USA Political Discussion Thread 2025
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Well said !
You could also add that because of their status they pay 95 billions dollars in taxes annually (2023 numbers ) which they can't claim any benefits and that once taken into account helps subsidize the red states that are so against those same migrants.
What did Trump say that wasn't true?
I can't actually give you ANY examples but basically everything! Well, you've made a very good case for your argument. Well played.
Trump changed his political affiliation multiple times. That's very significant because no other politician has ever done this. Also, isn’t that illegal to change parties? I should check.
The tourist’s name is Javiera Montero, and she was arrested and detained without cause while her daughter looked on.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-sa...ed-in-front-of-daughter-12-in-nyc/ar-AA1GsiCw
And yes, citizens are being deported. This "occasional error" is inhumane and beneath a civilised nation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g8yj2n33yo
I’m sorry if the facts seem to trigger you somehow, and the “Fake News” mantra is all you can come up with.
Arrest, and detention without due process is illegal in most civilised countries, and defending it speaks volumes.
Lmao
You should always start with the premise or question ....
When does trump speaks truthfully ?
Sorry low hanging fruit .... 😂
See even trump used to be a libtard.
He knows his base ... socially conservative but fiscally liberal as his followers could care less if the debt is shovelled to the next generation to give his wealthy backers the tax breaks they so badly need .
You are remarkably uninformed. They say that ignorance is bliss. I wish you continued happiness.
Did you actually read the story from the link? She was arrested on multiple charges. Resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and aiding and abbetting a crime.
So the link that you provided completely contradicts what you said. Awkward!
But she was a tourist from Chile and they arrested her in front of her child!!!
WHO FUCKING CARES!
ICE had nothing to do with the arrest of the Chilean tourist...that was completely NYPD and immigration records not the reason for her apprehension. There is no sign of ICE in the video or in the article but you seem to be tying them in.
The children were leaving with their mothers because they were being deported. They could have stayed with other relatives but the mothers were consulted and wanted to keep custody. The mothers were illegals who were not following due process instructions. I thought people did not want children to be separated from their parents.
"You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations".
"Sleepy" Joe Biden in a July 2021 CNN town hall meeting.
Got a booster on Friday. Just trying to help out. I have not had covid or any side effects. Updated my pneumonia vac will be updating the shingles vac as well.
Just common sense.
Doesn't hurt my feelings at all. Not sure why you would think it would. I'm not American, I'm Canadian, When a tiny majority of Americans that vote, make a decision that is repugnant to me, I am comforted by the fact that there are almost as many Americans that are appalled by the decision, and a very large number that didn't vote.
I just find it hypocritical that the argument posed is always so obviously tunnel vision and hyperbole. Trump's promise was to deport all the gangsters and criminals that were in the country illegally, reducing crime and violence. Hyperbolic for sure, not really supported by the statistics, but I can see why the stated objective would appeal to the general public. Unfortunate that so much suffering is occurring because of the implementation. Unfortunate that civil liberties in the USA are being trampled and undermined. Sad that the rest of the world is viewing the USA with almost universal distrust and contempt.
Truly in order to rise up and become better, the USA will need to hit rock bottom first. Sad but true. It may hurt your feelings so I'm sorry about that.
Good Evening.
I'm not willing to concede that you're a pro. I've seen no evidence that you have even moderate debate skills. You keep deflecting instead of answering the point.
I didn't start out the point by saying I don't really know much about the point I'm trying to make... I said that the deflections and points that You were making about the individuals other than Trump don't matter to me and I will not focus on side issues not relevant to the point I'm making.
Trump's character is what we are discussing. Not Hillary's or Biden's, or AOC's, or Santa Claus. You keep deflecting and trying to avoid answering the question.
It's a simple yes or no. A mature, conscientious individual can answer the question and defend their answer. Try it.
Are you willing to agree with me about Trump? Yes/No.
Cheers.
Just common sense. Oh, the irony. You missed the point again. Missing the point seems to be your thing. Why stop now?
I can't do anything about the Americans that didn't vote. It's a classic attempt at a straw man argument. What really matters is that Trump got more votes than Harris.
He won the popular vote and won the majority in the electoral college. The Republicans have majorities in the house and the senate. The entire country is shifting slowly to the right of the political spectrum. What else can I tell you? How much of a majority is a big enough majority for you? You get elected or you don't. I can see that you're not happy with the results. That's too bad. Better luck next time?
Every fucken white person in America came from Europe. Killed and decimated Aboriginal Tribes to gain possession of the land in America. These white people fled religious persecution and poverty and class system of Europe. Today it is the white rich descendants of these immigrants who won't give a chance to people who are fleeing persecution in their birth countries (mostly dictatorships and gang run cities). These people are employed in the US under min wage standards, or have to work off debt.
The point is that they are not being given their day in court to determine their status..... even if they are illegal immigrants. Not all illegal immigrants are criminals.
Today the biggest criminals are the descendants of those European immigrants....
So trump started falling a year before Biden did....
Biden came to presidency when he was 78. Trump fell when he was 78.
WOW. That sucks for Canadians who have homes in the US or rental homes. If your a Canadian Pension holder expect a loss of income due to these taxes in the US.
All done by the big billionaires because of recent digital taxes on their services. I think you will see alot of billionaires hiring extra security...
If this tax happens, the US could expect withdrawl of about 20% of their US market value; being returned to original country (You are basically killing foreign investment in the USA). So a 30-50% tax rate (on dividends), would mean the US stealing that money or holding it up for hostage. Then if the original countries take their money back, it could mean a drop in stock markets by 20% or more (because of the withdrawl of the money).
Pls note that this is only for western countries, not muslim countries like Saudi Arabia. Its an unfair tax aimed at western countries of the G8 by the USA. This means fucking over the rich in Europe, Japan, and Canada....
If you think Americans are hated in the world today, if this tax bill goes through, it will be open season on every American citizen outside the continental USA.
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