Non-AMPs vs AMPs

MrSOG

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Very curious from you Perb brothers who regularly visit both types of places. I'm talking about agencies like TempGF, Asian Fever, Coco Collective vs agencies like XDS, Foxy604, Daynight. I have never visited the latter but I feel like maybe I'm missing out on some stellar choices. Most times I like some upfront conversation, laughs, and a cultural connection; so, I just kinda always avoided AMPs. However, I recall one experience I had, in China, with an SP that treated me like an absolute king and we had zero ability to communicate verbally with each other. Reflecting much later on this has now got me thinking that maybe this type of experience is worth revisiting, and conversation be damned.

I know it's so open-ended to comment on this. What's your opinion?
 

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With few exceptions, it seems the majority of AMP's here are garbage. Most demand payment up front (which is a major turn off for me) so I don't really go there anymore unless they have someone I like (usually non-Asian majority of time). Another major turn off is if we can't understand each other or her mind is elsewhere. Haven't had overwhelming success at AMP's, but that's my opinion only
 
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MrSOG

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With few exceptions, it seems the majority of AMP's here are garbage. Most demand payment up front (which is a major turn off for me) so I don't really go there anymore unless they have someone I like (usually non-Asian majority of time). Another major turn off is if we can't understand each other or her mind is elsewhere. Haven't had overwhelming success at AMP's, but that's my opinion only
Fair enough. I have noticed a ton more reviews though for AMPs, at least the ones I listed, than other places. I'm guessing there must be something to it.
 

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With few exceptions, it seems the majority of AMP's here are garbage. Most demand payment up front (which is a major turn off for me) so I don't really go there anymore unless they have someone I like (usually non-Asian majority of time). Another major turn off is if we can't understand each other or her mind is elsewhere. Haven't had overwhelming success at AMP's, but that's my opinion only
I always pay up front. I thought that was just good manners?
 

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I always pay up front. I thought that was just good manners?
He might be referring to paying when you walk in the door to the person in front. Rather than to the lady herself in the room. It doesn’t give you the option to leave if you pay before meeting anybody. I could be wrong tho.

It is good manners to just pay the lady. Too many weirdos in this business would take advantage if the norm was to pay after. Assholes would just walk out. Or try to get extra services from you when you’re half way through. Ladies would be uncomfortable saying no if it meant they might not get paid.

Maybe at places with body builder ninjas at the door, paying after would be good practice lol
 

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This is not China (yet.) OTOH you won't be subject to "executive detention" by the local "public security bureau" or having to pay for your way out after.
 
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Very curious from you Perb brothers who regularly visit both types of places. I'm talking about agencies like TempGF, Asian Fever, Coco Collective vs agencies like XDS, Foxy604, Daynight. I have never visited the latter but I feel like maybe I'm missing out on some stellar choices. Most times I like some upfront conversation, laughs, and a cultural connection; so, I just kinda always avoided AMPs. However, I recall one experience I had, in China, with an SP that treated me like an absolute king and we had zero ability to communicate verbally with each other. Reflecting much later on this has now got me thinking that maybe this type of experience is worth revisiting, and conversation be damned.

I know it's so open-ended to comment on this. What's your opinion?
I would characterize the scene in Vancouver this way:

- independent operators
- co-ops (like Skyline or PDC where the SP sets the rates and the co-op takes care of the venue)
- agencies (tempgf Coco etc)
- Asian agencies (XDS, Daynight)
- MPs (multi racial MPs like Lily’s, Broadway or Tiger)
- AMPs (mostly Asian SPs like Swan or Sole)
- R&T (massage with a HJ finish like Reach or Smart)

I’ve tried them all and have had great times at all of them and have had so-so times at all of them. So price or venue is no guarantee of the experience you get - at least this is what I have found in my travels.

Like you, I tend to like to get to know a SP I vibe with so it’s important to me that there is some English and the possibility to see them again. For those reasons touring ladies are generally out for me as well as the Asian agencies (because there is often no English and a lot of turnover).

Like for most of us price is also a factor. Would you rather have one session with an agency SP or three at an MP? And do you need the privacy of a condo or are you okay with the bordello vibe?

I’ve had some great experiences with the ladies at TempGF, Coco and Bunz. I’ve also had great experiences at Tiger (tho haven’t been there recently), Lily’s and Swan. The one huge downside for me at MPs is the bartering over extras (DFK, BBJ etc), where at an agency it’s pretty much stated up front. That being said, at Swan Lake most of the providers include those services in the price, and prolly about a third of their SPs have good English (tho they def skew older).

What I’ve found as I’ve gotten a little older and gathered more experience in this game is that I’m better able to communicate my needs and generally have been able to find the SPs with whom I can have 4 and 5 star experiences with and fewer 1,2, 3 star ones. In fact, I joke with a few gents I’ve met thru Perb that we’re kind of in a golden age of pooning with some of the experiences we’ve been having, both in the agency scene and the MP scene. So in our experience those great SPs are out there in all the different market segments.

I find Perb to be an invaluable resource in that Quixotic search. The Vancouver guys tend to be very helpful with their suggestions both in the open forum and by DM.

Good luck in your search.
 
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markus12

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Never tired an AMP here. The massage scene in Toronto has much more selection with a variety of ethnicities. Edmonton used to have a good rub and tug scene but allot has seemed to close down. Everything in Vancouver looks underwhelming for MPs. It’s more of a incall outcall type vibe out here. Stick with the major agencies. Steer clear of Leo’s ads and girls with no reviews. Think with the right head.
Leolist girls are hit or miss. Some are just scammers. Buyer beware
 
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