Do you guys have sex exclusively with SPs or mix SPs with "normal" hookups from Tinder / bars / etc.?

[PuntMeister]

I love SP’s. I can get action through tradirional civilian means too, but the BAGGAGE! Oh, the effort, the endless expenses, and the constant sucking up that oppresses my earthly vitality! But I know how to get along with people, so am fortunate to have options.

I connect great with SP’s, but have muggle options for sex too. I prefer the simplicity of SP’s without baggage. My feeling is that being willing to pay for sustained happiness and retained personal freedom is the actual value proposition for some of us. Physical gratification is an inducement, but not the thing that lets me sleep well every night of my life.

Love the ad’s offerring “Zero baggage, sure thing, happy fling”.

 

[Uncled]

I love SP’s. I can get action through tradirional civilian means too, but the BAGGAGE! Oh, the effort, the endless expenses, and the constant sucking up that oppresses my earthly vitality! But I know how to get along with people, so am fortunate to have options.

I connect great with SP’s, but have muggle options for sex too. I prefer the simplicity of SP’s without baggage. My feeling is that being willing to pay for sustained happiness and retained personal freedom is the actual value proposition for some of us. Physical gratification is an inducement, but not the thing that lets me sleep well every night of my life.

Love the ad’s offerring “Zero baggage, sure thing, happy fling”.

I went full MGTOW years ago.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

I’ve given up on SP’s, but I sure am tempted. Last night I had a failed first date, and afterwards was bummed and really tempted to go see an SP. I’m so glad I didn’t. I’ve been working on getting over my last serious GF who was an escort, by dating, it’s the only thing that has taken my mind off her in the last month. I have a similar experience that it’s a TON of work, however it briefly paid off. The only woman I was inclined to have repeat dates with, I finally got laid and it was fucking incredible. She’s gorgeous and super fit, AND it was super easy to talk to her. The sex was mind blowing, for hours. Better than any SP I’ve ever seen because our energy and intention and attraction was so well matched. I should write her a review 🤣 Huge confidence boost.. But I got rattled again when she was unable to commit. I don’t want a temporary girlfriend. So back to dating, gonna be a long slow road. Really want to see an SP today, but I won’t. I keep checking in here out of habit. But I hate the thought of fucking someone who doesn’t want to fuck me, the fake desire. That notion that SP’s don’t want to be there is burned into my head forever. Reading SP’s on here say they enjoy their work is hard for me to believe, because my ex said she hated it so much. But who knows, maybe she just told me that to curtail jealousy. I’ll never really know.

So I take it you are looking for a wife. And all that goes with that. And if you really want that, do spend time to consider the statistics of how that goes, what the best before dates are and so on.
Yea dating is an effort. You get out of that what you are willing to put in and frankly put up with, so if a 'date' early on is not going the way you want it, cut your losses.
Then view all this as a financial arrangement with the Wife potentially costing you more than you may imagine and dating being whatever you want to spend. Versus a couple to few hundred for a great session with an SP.
Maybe you haven't been through all this that many of us in the legacy class have been but looking back for me its pretty simple,

 

[beachjunky]

Average guy here,

Dating scene in Vancouver is "being attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped around an axis" up.

I have to spend money on dating apps to get matches which lead to nowhere for multiple reasons.

 

[Larry's Torch]

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But I hate the thought of fucking someone who doesn’t want to fuck me, the fake desire. That notion that SP’s don’t want to be there is burned into my head forever. Reading SP’s on here say they enjoy their work is hard for me to believe, because my ex said she hated it so much. But who knows, maybe she just told me that to curtail jealousy. I’ll never really know.

I know how you feel. I've actually ended some sessions when the lady has a hard time hiding her true feelings. I have't been "active" for some time due to this.
Obviously not all SPs, but I feel some find themselves almost stuck in this business because any civvie job couldn't pay enough to pay rent, buy food etc.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Really want to see an SP today, but I won’t. I keep checking in here out of habit. But I hate the thought of fucking someone who doesn’t want to fuck me, the fake desire. That notion that SP’s don’t want to be there is burned into my head forever. Reading SP’s on here say they enjoy their work is hard for me to believe, because my ex said she hated it so much. But who knows, maybe she just told me that to curtail jealousy. I’ll never really know.

Dating while doing sex work can be so complicated. You definitely want the person you’re dating to feel comfortable about you going to work. And you want regulars. It’s a bit of a minefield to navigate haha. It’s why I decided that until I retire, I’m not dating. I’ve been 100% single for 6 years now and loving it. I get enough fun sex at work so I don’t need that in my personal life. I have pets and great friends for companionship.

I think everybody’s different. So maybe your girl really hated sex work. I’ve definitely met my fair share of women that shouldn’t be doing this. I’ve also met my fair share of women who love sex work and are really comfortable with transactional sex. We’re all just human beings

 

[thickster778]

both obviously

 

[UAL1234]

Going on " Tinder " for my mental health is like somebody with liver disease getting drunk every weekend.

Mental health issues suck badly. Thank god i see SP's .

I would rather meet people in person , none of this " online" garbage unless it is Leolist!

 

[licks2nite]

Leolist widely denigrated waste of time in Perb.

 

[dchoye]

Sometime a rushed 50 min sex with little or no emotional connection doesn’t do it for me
I like the chase and girls like the attention too
It does take some time and effort and gamemanship
I like the thrill of a potential hookup

 

[Bang4thebuck]

Sometime a rushed 50 min sex with little or no emotional connection doesn’t do it for me
I like the chase and girls like the attention too
It does take some time and effort and gamemanship
I like the thrill of a potential hookup

Man, hook up culture was way more fun before online dating became mainstream. University during those days was a lot of casual dates, sex, and meeting girls through being social and going out. There was the chase, and more mystery and excitement. You would learn about a girl by talking to her, asking questions, spending time together.

I'm 5'10", funny, stocky build, little above average in looks, and did okay. I have money now but back then had fuck all and it didn't matter as long as you knew how to show a girl a good time. I never cared for social media which was a positive back in the day, but is now a dating red flag.

Now it's all swiping on Tinder like a mindless zombie and all girls feel entitled to the top 0.01% of men as if their pussies are made of solid gold and lined with diamonds. Your average guy who was able to hookup with average girls with a little effort is now screwed. There's no mystery as her entire life is on her IG, and rather than phone calls and dates, it's mostly sending messages and pictures back and forth. I would hate to be in my teens or 20s today.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Man, hook up culture was way more fun before online dating became mainstream. University during those days was a lot of casual dates, sex, and meeting girls through being social and going out. There was the chase, and more mystery and excitement. You would learn about a girl by talking to her, asking questions, spending time together.

I'm 5'10", funny, stocky build, little above average in looks, and did okay. I have money now but back then had fuck all and it didn't matter as long as you knew how to show a girl a good time. I never cared for social media which was a positive back in the day, but is now a dating red flag.

Now it's all swiping on Tinder like a mindless zombie and all girls feel entitled to the top 0.01% of men as if their pussies are made of solid gold and lined with diamonds. Your average guy who was able to hookup with average girls with a little effort is now screwed. There's no mystery as her entire life is on her IG, and rather than phone calls and dates, it's mostly sending messages and pictures back and forth. I would hate to be in my teens or 20s today.

Agreed.
Back in the day, Thursday night was bar and cabaret night where a guy could scope out the herd to see who could get nicely cut out for the weekend. It was epic back in the day. Miles and miles of unused vagina, just there waiting for the hunt.
Glorious times!!

 

[booty.hunter]

Tinder is such a waste of time these days.
If I am horny I just log into PERB and do my research on what would suit my mood.. hopefully my stars align with the SP so we can bang..
It’s so much easier that way!

 

[loyalk]

Sp's only. More simple that way.

 

[Okanaganguy1985]

I do both ,

see SPs , see guar babies or just meet girls on a dating app

I find Feeld or Fetlife works really well too,

I usually preform as a bull or cnc scenario provider

I have also brought a SP to a fetlife arrangement where I was getting good $ which more then paid for the SP but she didn’t know I was.

profitable if you go that route

 

[Isildur123]

The difference between dating around and seeing a SP is thet it's easier to see a SP if you're married or in a relationship. A quick 30 minute time window for a bang is all you need.

However if you are married or in a relationship, to cultivate a relationship with a tinder date takes a long time. Your significant other will be suspicious if you are gone for hours on end.

The success rate for dating is also very low. For SPs, it's 100% - pay the amount, get the sex, get out. For dating it is certainly not a guarantee you go home with anything. The pickup artist Paul Janka once remarked that after getting a girl's number, the conversion rate to getting laid was 11%. Bear in mind that the actual success rate of getting a girl's number is not 100%, so the actual conversion rate would be much lower. It takes lots and lots of time to date, even when you are dating multiple women at once. You also need a very thick skin to handle lots of rejection. Girls will reject you for any reason. Sometimes you're just not their "type," even though you are objectively better looking or more successful than the next schmuck she dates.

If you're a sex-crazed horndog like Janka in his 20s, then sure, you can devote all your time doing this. But no reasonable person with a job and bills to pay can afford to go around dating and shooting the 11%.

 

[Isildur123]

I do both ,

see SPs , see guar babies or just meet girls on a dating app

I find Feeld or Fetlife works really well too,

I usually preform as a bull or cnc scenario provider

I have also brought a SP to a fetlife arrangement where I was getting good $ which more then paid for the SP but she didn’t know I was.

profitable if you go that route

How are you finding FetLife? There are a lot of... weird people there and not exactly unicorns.
Anything there besides obese, gross women there?

 

[Okanaganguy1985]

How are you finding FetLife? There are a lot of... weird people there and not exactly unicorns.
Anything there besides obese, gross women there?

literally so many also lots of escorts are on there to get their fix outside of seeing clients. I have met a lot of easy 7+/10 or even 10/10

often they have a husband or something that wants to watch or join but that’s fine with me.

 

[SoulfulJourney_Social]

100% SPs right now. i would be surprised if anyone can mix SP encounters with tinder dates effectively, because its a tedious process to see success in either of these categories.

 

[Okanaganguy1985]

100% SPs right now. i would be surprised if anyone can mix SP encounters with tinder dates effectively, because its a tedious process to see success in either of these categories.

its effectively cheaper to just see a escort then it is to take a women out on a date.