Question from Newbie Starting Out

[victoriaresident1]

I am 21, in Gordon Head Area, I am new to this stuff so my apologies if there are any dumb questions. I wanted to try my first "massage" and I am seeing people drop these reviews on here and it seems like they are mentioning this stuff about bbbj and...

1.) I was wondering how you are instantly knowing they are clean and all that stuff and know they are telling the truth.

2.) Is it just their fee you're paying for, or also their taxi ride over.

3.) Is it also overkill to not pay through etransfer and do stuff like masking my identity/fake name?

I want to try it for my first time but I don't want to get into legal trouble or they try to take advantage of it being my first time just to be prepared.

Thank you.

 

[luvsdaty]

I am 21, in Gordon Head Area, I am new to this stuff so my apologies if there are any dumb questions. I wanted to try my first "massage" and I am seeing people drop these reviews on here and it seems like they are mentioning this stuff about bbbj and...

1.) I was wondering how you are instantly knowing they are clean and all that stuff and know they are telling the truth.

2.) Is it just their fee you're paying for, or also their taxi ride over.

3.) Is it also overkill to not pay through etransfer and do stuff like masking my identity/fake name?

I want to try it for my first time but I don't want to get into legal trouble or they try to take advantage of it being my first time just to be prepared.

Thank you.

1. You never know,either with pros or civilians, it's a risk we all take. Health questions are a no no on perd,if you're concerned talk to your health practitioner.
2. You're only paying for their fee that they charge.
3. Never pay in advance,only pre pay/deposit well known providers. I don't do this but some well known providers ask for a deposit from someone that they haven't seen before.
4. Most of the ads on leolist are scam ads,so don't be one of those guys that come on here asking if this girl is legit ,chances are it's a scam. Google image search is your friend,many pics on leolist are stolen from porn sites,Instagram etc. Think with the big head
5. Any mention of bareback full service will land you in perbatory for a time out.
6. Don't dig up threads that have been dead for more than six months and ask questions of that provider. That will also end you up in perbatory.

 

[KAM369]

I am 21, in Gordon Head Area, I am new to this stuff so my apologies if there are any dumb questions. I wanted to try my first "massage" and I am seeing people drop these reviews on here and it seems like they are mentioning this stuff about bbbj and...

1.) I was wondering how you are instantly knowing they are clean and all that stuff and know they are telling the truth.

2.) Is it just their fee you're paying for, or also their taxi ride over.

3.) Is it also overkill to not pay through etransfer and do stuff like masking my identity/fake name?

I want to try it for my first time but I don't want to get into legal trouble or they try to take advantage of it being my first time just to be prepared.

Thank you.

I wouldn't recommend having anyone over to your place- first of all many places use fake pics so you don't want someone showing up and not being what you want and the hassle following trying to get rid of her( try an agency or massage parlor)Pay by cash,move on to the next if they want a deposit

 

[Dawgspeed]

Good Day Mate

1) You know nothing about them, whatever they tell you is all you got .. use common sense and do some homework on them .. web sites, here

2) Do not do outcalls .. Most the time you have to pay for travel .. get your feet wet and some experience under your belt before doing outcalls to your place ..
Go to an agency or one of the massage places .. The massage section will have lots of info on who to see .. ask in 411 and check the review section for ladies that interest you

3) NEVER SEND A DEPOSIT .. I WILL SAY THAT AGAIN .. NEVER SEND A DEPOSIT.. Just move on to another girl

4) Leo List is a joke .. use caution as 75% of the adds are fake .. Tryst and here are safe

5) This will help with abbreviations ... https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/escort-abbreviations-acronyms-terminology-used-on-ads.223932/

Ask away in 411 when you have an issue or question about an SP .. 9 outta 10 times you`ll get the answers you are looking for
Cheers

 

[cg16]

Geez dude, you're 21, get out there and date. This hobby will be here waiting for you down the road when you're fed up with the thrill of the chase and modern day women and their laundry list of headaches lol.

If you really want to head down the slippery slope go to a massage place, don’t invite strangers into your home.

 

[Bollsdeap]

3.) Is it also overkill to not pay through etransfer and do stuff like masking my identity/fake name?

I want to try it for my first time but I don't want to get into legal trouble or they try to take advantage of it being my first time just to be prepared.

I have been doing this a looooong time and closing in on 300 different providers. NONE of them know my real name, not even those I have been seeing for years. And I always pay cash.

And don't worry about legal problems. Stick with the well-known agencies and providers, stay away from anyone who may be too young and, for god's sake, don't go cruising for street walkers.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Geez dude, you're 21, get out there and date. This hobby will be here waiting for you down the road when you're fed up with the thrill of the chase and modern day women and their laundry list of headaches lol.

If you really want to head down the slippery slope go to a massage place, don’t invite strangers into your home.

It’s not so easy for some young people to date. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, seeing escorts can take the edge off and help boost confidence and actually make dating in your real life easier

Read reviews.

Get a checklist of what you’re looking for.

I’d suggest going to an agency with a lineup you can pick from. But I don’t know if Victoria offers that.

If you want to go indie, pick a lady that has a lot of photos and an Online presence.

When you get comfortable with the whole transactional nature, and get familiar with all the red flags then maybe get an outcall.

Stick with busy agencies and you really can’t go wrong.

Treat the ladies with respect. Be mindful of their time. Tip if you had a good time. We’re all just human beings 💕

 

[victoriaresident1]

I wouldn't recommend having anyone over to your place- first of all many places use fake pics so you don't want someone showing up and not being what you want and the hassle following trying to get rid of her( try an agency or massage parlor)Pay by cash,move on to the next if they want a deposit

Do these massage parlors offer anything more like BJ? Do you yourself have any recommendation?

 

[victoriaresident1]

It’s not so easy for some young people to date. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, seeing escorts can take the edge off and help boost confidence and actually make dating in your real life easier

Read reviews.

Get a checklist of what you’re looking for.

I’d suggest going to an agency with a lineup you can pick from. But I don’t know if Victoria offers that.

If you want to go indie, pick a lady that has a lot of photos and an Online presence.

When you get comfortable with the whole transactional nature, and get familiar with all the red flags then maybe get an outcall.

Stick with busy agencies and you really can’t go wrong.

Treat the ladies with respect. Be mindful of their time. Tip if you had a good time. We’re all just human beings 💕

I'm thinking I can only do outcall since it might drive the price up too much if I don't. I was thinking Essence of Asia since I saw there's many reviews on here for them. However you mentioned agency, as in like victoriaescorts .ca the website?

 

[G-Rob]

It’s not so easy for some young people to date. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, seeing escorts can take the edge off and help boost confidence and actually make dating in your real life easier

Read reviews.

Get a checklist of what you’re looking for.

I’d suggest going to an agency with a lineup you can pick from. But I don’t know if Victoria offers that.

If you want to go indie, pick a lady that has a lot of photos and an Online presence.

When you get comfortable with the whole transactional nature, and get familiar with all the red flags then maybe get an outcall.

Stick with busy agencies and you really can’t go wrong.

Treat the ladies with respect. Be mindful of their time. Tip if you had a good time. We’re all just human beings 💕

Heed what Harmony-bc offered..........Treat the ladies with respect!........and you may be pleasantly surprised.....

 

[Harmony-bc]

I'm thinking I can only do outcall since it might drive the price up too much if I don't. I was thinking Essence of Asia since I saw there's many reviews on here for them. However you mentioned agency, as in like victoriaescorts .ca the website?

Out call is usually more expensive than in call. You pay the rate plus an out call fee. In call doesn’t require any extra fees for transportation. Unless the lady doesn’t have an in call and has to pay for one. But that should come out of her rate and not for you to pay extra. Some ladies are out call only. Just be careful with that one

It's safer for you to go to an in call when you’re just starting out. Don’t trust anybody. Everybody has potential to be a thief.

I’m not familiar with Victoria agencies but essence of Asia sounds like an agency name. When I say agency, I’m using it as an umbrella term to also include massage parlors and micro’s. Everything that requires you go through a third party/ handler to book the girl, falls under agency in my view.

Indies are people that 100% work for themselves.

I would also suggest that you plan a budget and stick to it. But if you’re worried about it being too expensive than you might want to wait a few years until that’s not an issue.

 

[G-Rob]

Out call is usually more expensive than in call. You pay the rate plus an out call fee. In call doesn’t require any extra fees for transportation. Unless the lady doesn’t have an in call and has to pay for one. But that should come out of her rate and not for you to pay extra. Some ladies are out call only. Just be careful with that one

It's safer for you to go to an in call when you’re just starting out. Don’t trust anybody. Everybody has potential to be a thief.

I’m not familiar with Victoria agencies but essence of Asia sounds like an agency name. When I say agency, I’m using it as an umbrella term to also include massage parlors and micro’s. Everything that requires you go through a third party/ handler to book the girl, falls under agency in my view.

Indies are people that 100% work for themselves.

I would also suggest that you plan a budget and stick to it. But if you’re worried about it being too expensive than you might want to wait a few years until that’s not an issue.

Harmony is sharing good advice.........

 

[G-Rob]

I think you should take a ferry ride to see Harmony. She has given you a lot of good advice and is dialed in to your situation,. I am willing to bet she would be an amazing first encounter for you!

 

[Harmony-bc]

I think you should take a ferry ride to see Harmony. She has given you a lot of good advice and is dialed in to your situation,. I am willing to bet she would be an amazing first encounter for you!

Haha. He’s so young! I’d feel a bit like robbing the cradle. Thank you for the recommendation, tho 😘😘😘

 

[G-Rob]

Haha. He’s so young! I’d feel a bit like robbing the cradle. Thank you for the recommendation, tho 😘😘😘

lol.......you are welcome!....

 

[superbrick]

That's a risk ya take with sexual stuff. Most pros regularly test.

Outcalls usually cost more to cover that. Do not do an outcall your first time. I've always gone to an agency or the lady's place. With the exception of one trusted lady I've known for many Years.

Cash is king, and I've always paid cash. In the day and age of electronic history lasting forever maybe, not risk it. Some legit providers may take a deposit.

Please do some research as others have said. I almost fell for a Leolist one. Check for multiple ads in different cities, and do reverse image searches.

 

[Dabbles]

Go to an agency. Look at Islands Finest, and The Vogue Collective. There is also a group of providers running a cooperative and they are all reputable. https://www.theplayhousecooperative.com/

Many of the providers on Tryst dot link are good as well.


look through the descriptions and photos of providers that appeal to you. You can then look here for reviews to see if they meet your expectations.

for a newbie I would suggest: Devon or Kat @ Islands Finest (IF), Mischa Minx on Tryst, Frankie @ The Playhouse. Crimson Day @ Vogue Collective.

These providers are wonderful, friendly and I think would do their best to steward a newbie to having a great experience.

 

[80watts]

I would suggest you do a search here on PERB.
Familarize yourself with the terminology. BBBJ etc. to know what it means.
Things you should know before seeing an SP:
What is in there normal service (they usually state this) and rate.
Also what they charge for extras.

Before seeing someone, check reviews here on PERB, there are other review boards too. TERB (toronto), MERB (Montreal). CAF. For the most part Perb is good for Vancouver and Victoria. (BC in general-see the main board here).

Read up here on how to prepare for a encounter. Use the search again.
If they offer a shower before, take a shower (take your wallet with you).

And when you get there, relax....

What you might do to start is go for a massage with HE. Check the massage part of the Victoria thread for what prices will be like etc. etc.....

 

[Dabbles]

I missed or forgot the point about seeing a massage provider first...CZ Spa (see LeoList for their contact) is probably a good bet for a start. They are reliable. Read the reviews for CZ on this forum.

 

[Ms.Frankie.Finesse]

Go to an agency. Look at Islands Finest, and The Vogue Collective. There is also a group of providers running a cooperative and they are all reputable. https://www.theplayhousecooperative.com/

Many of the providers on Tryst dot link are good as well.


look through the descriptions and photos of providers that appeal to you. You can then look here for reviews to see if they meet your expectations.

for a newbie I would suggest: Devon or Kat @ Islands Finest (IF), Mischa Minx on Tryst, Frankie @ The Playhouse. Crimson Day @ Vogue Collective.

These providers are wonderful, friendly and I think would do their best to steward a newbie to having a great experience.

Thanks so much for this mention!! Xox

I have raised my age limit recently, so unfortunately it won’t be me, but I do hope OP will find someone nice for his first encounter! Xo


Direct message to OP now: I wouldn’t normally bother saying anything but since I was mentioned, I will take this as an invitation to add my two cents. 😝
As a reputable independent service provider I wanted to say, I’m a little disappointed by all the people here advising you not to send a deposit. I understand there is risk for bad experiences on the clients end but as long as you do your homework about the provider you see (as suggested many times in the thread), There is nothing wrong with sending a deposit.

Firstly, It’s respectful of her time and makes her feel confident and assured in her booking with you! If you want an enthusiastic provider who shows you a good time, making her feel respected, safe and happy isn’t a bad idea…

Secondly, it is not a scam, it’s a method of screening we use to protect ourselves. As reputable providers our reputations are worth a lot more than the 50$ we may ask you for, for a deposit. Our livelihoods depend on our reputations so it’s not worth the risk to scam someone over 50$. Hope that makes sense..

I personally DON’T require screening for myself in less I get the feeling it’s necessary. I DO require it when I’m doing phones at The Playhouse and booking for someone aside from myself, in my cooperative,
A) cause it’s standard,

but also B) because I don’t feel like it’s fair to depend on my intuition when it’s not my safety I’m risking.

Think about it this way, the risk on your end of sending a deposit is that you might lose 50$. The risk for a provider who doesn’t screen…. ?? Well I hope I don’t have to explain how badly that can go for us..

Ok spiel over! If you got this far, thanks for reading. Cheers 🥂 ✌🏼🫡