Stealth strategies to be invisible in a digital age

[VinVan]

Okay, this topic has been done before, but it’s always good for a refresh of intel sharing for those of us who have to fly under the radar. In an adjacent post, GeeBeeP posted this link to a Terb discussion of this topic:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/how-to-be-discreet-about-hobby.839619/

While comprehensive, it was not exhaustive.

I would add a couple of items to that list that will help pooners stay invisible:

Google Maps
Did you know that just like your browsing history on a web browser, Google Maps records every entry and query you enter into its search bar. So your SO could look at your Google Maps history and ask, “What is Swan Lake Massage? And why have you been there twice in the last month?” To get around this, click on the circle icon in the far right of the search bar on mobile. Then tap “turn on incognito mode” and there will be no record of your maps search. Turn off incognito mode to return to normal programming.

Texting
Some guys have a burner phone, but I don’t because the discovery of a burner phone would raise a lot more questions than the problem it’s meant to resolve. Plus switching back and forth between your regular phone and a burner to me just seems cumbersome. So to mitigate the danger of incriminating texts being discovered, my poon buddies and me have this convention:

Hi

What time are you meeting so-and-so today?

By doing a double space after “Hi” the actual message is buried beyond view in the texting message preview window.

I ask any SPs I frequent to do the same and most are happy to do so. If someone asks me why I text this way I just tell them that it make the text more clear by breaking the information into discrete blocks.

Add your tips to the thread and help save a relationship haha

 

[PuntMeister]

Hate google maps. I only use Apple maps app. Delete the ‘recents’ list periodically.

 

[VanCityNewb]

You can delete iMessages from your phone, but if you have it linked to an account on your Mac, they'll still be there.

Don't ask how I know. 😂

Definitely not me, but...

https://www.timesnownews.com/techno...lar-divorce-here-is-why-article-111035924/amp

 

[Bunghole1]

How to Send Messages That Automatically Disappear

https://www.wired.com/story/how-to-send-messages-that-automatically-disappear/

 

[Bunghole1]

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Google, love it or hate it, allows for shutting off history.
Maps, searches, youtube and so on.
Not so sure about Edge. Microshaft saves and recalls emails seemingly at will. I am constantly going into the wallet like section to delete stuff.
In both I pretty much stay in incognito mode for anything to do with my personal -- PERSONAL -- life.
And I am single, live alone except for those times when FWB's are staying with me. Yeah, my paranoia chip stays lit most of the time ...

 

[Larry's Torch]

It helps to be single.
I avoid google as much as possible. Can't do it completely with Android, so looking at Graphine OS on an unlocked Pixel. Currently using a burner phone. 7-11 on Rogers network. Cheap and easy to add time to it and it lasts for one year. If you're worried about an SO finding it; you can say it's a backup in case you lose your main one. You can type any SW name and number into an unaddressed text window, select it and then "cut" it. It will be saved in your clipboard. Only way to recover it is to open a new text and "paste" it in.
Currently running a copy of Zorin OS (ubuntu distro) in non-persistent mode (basically you run it off of a bootable USB and when you shut down and unplug nothing is saved).
Email and VPN: proton.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Also, dont post on a forum board, that shit is traceable to an ip address.

The problem with all of this is that the American security apparatus insists there be backdoors in everything for them, and even when they say there are none they are there. Some of you may remember Windows 95, which wad claimed secure but was then discovered to have undocumented APIs to allow getting in the back door. Windows 95 was the start of the virus wars because of it.

And even if the software is good, there are enough ways to hack the hardware that its almost impossible to be secure. An example was parity bit strobing.

The only thing you can have sureity on is that it would be *harder* for someone to break in or trace your digital footprints, but its never 100% secure as they sell it.

On a side note there was an interesting company in BC that got in trouble for selling end to end encrypted phones to criminal networks. I believe those guys are in jail now.

 

[Mr. J]

If all else fails, revert to going old school amish.

 

[HunkyBill]

If all else fails, revert to going old school amish.

 

[Ctian]

I don't use a burner, as that would draw attention as to why I have a second phone, for some regular contacts(SP and Amps) as I have tons of incoming texts and phone calls still sitting there from selling buying stuff, the most recent are still at the top, what I do it sometimes is put as the company or the last name "bought xxx car parts off me or them" or I will put "Likely Spam" I sell a lot of stuff on marketplace and buy so easy to blend in...but the ever present fact that she could read the text and figure out what's going on is still there. I would like to hear others way of hiding contacts or making lists invisible unless facial recognition is activated etc.
also any pictures I don't want seen as I accidentally flip through I place in a Hidden section, but if you know about it then you know how to find them, it just removes from the All Photos section.

 

[Pmbiz]

Getting an Android tablet makes it easier. Very common to have a phone and a tablet. For work or whatever. Less sus than carrying a 2nd phone.

Android tablets are capable of operating like a smart phone. Texts, calls etc... and good feature is ability to make your selected apps invisible.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I've had a few friends ask why I have a cheap burner phone. I tell them I keep it as an emergency back-up, and take it when I think I might be in area where I could get robbed, so my expensive iPhone isn't at risk.

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

There's a lot of 'tin-foil hatting' going on here, for something so low-key as pooning. I get that if the client was a high-end government official or a celebrity with a lot to lose if they were caught soliciting a provider; yes, it's best to watch your digital footprint based on how much of a VIP you are. But for the common people in this hobby, 'you're not that important' to be tracked down.

Discretion is paramount in this hobby, of course, but until the government is actively going on some country-wide crackdown by kicking down the door of every pooner with a browser history full of visited escort sites and the prisons are filled to the brim... the only people you need to concerned for is yourself, the provider (whether she's a scam or not), and your significant other (if applicable).

Doesn't matter if the government or Google and Microsoft know what you're doing... just make sure your browser history is clear on the family computer, so your wife and kids don't see what you're up to.

Burner phones are highly suggested in this hobby. I read here how people complain about the clunkiness of managing two phones, but really, it's a small price to pay for managing that discretion. Especially in this latest scam I've been seeing on my own burner phone where you get a random text from someone saying they are handler for certain providers I've been texting saying that because I didn't set up an appointment upon my initial text with a provider, I'm somehow wasting their time and they demand to be compensated or they'll shake me down.... which is freakin' hilarious... I never respond to them, but since I'm on a burner phone, I'm very tempted to have a "Jerky Boys" chat with some of these fruit-cakes. Now on the off-chance that these people are 'for real', would you want them call you on your main phone? Somehow track you down, or hack your phone, or use your main phone number in a phishing scam that uses AI to extrapolate your entire voice from a simple "hello"? And so on...

 

[lukom]

Burner phones are your best bet. 7 Eleven, Pay as you go. Keep it turned off hidden somewhere it can't be found. Maybe even somewhere outside in a tight sealed leak proof bag, and double bagged. Like under a stone? Keep it charged by having it on a cordless charger. If you work somewhere that your significant other doesn't have access to, keep your burner at work, just don't use the work wifi.

 

[westwoody]

I’m pretty pissed off….
Bought some high end bike stuff from a Vanc shop online. I know they are legit because I have been there on holidays.
Instead of giving me the carrier tracking number they want me to use “Shop” to track the order. “Shop” wants a bunch of personal data to sign up. Then it just fetches the tracking data from FedEx, which I could easily do myself of the store wasn’t run by a bunch of assholes.
This is the slippery slope to identity theft.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

I laugh that what people term to be a burner phone. What everyone refers to a burner phone is merely a secondary phone.
A burner phone is typically a phone cloned to be a mirror of another phone belonging to an unsuspecting victim. All calls are billed to the victims phone, so can NEVER be tracked back to the user of the burner.
Because of the nature of the burners, they are only good for a handful of calls.
It is not recommended to use a burner phone for data or text.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I laugh that what people term to be a burner phone. What everyone refers to a burner phone is merely a secondary phone.
A burner phone is typically a phone cloned to be a mirror of another phone belonging to an unsuspecting victim. All calls are billed to the victims phone, so can NEVER be tracked back to the user of the burner.
Because of the nature of the burners, they are only good for a handful of calls.
It is not recommended to use a burner phone for data or text.

I always understood a burner phone to be one that is anonymous that can’t be traced back to you.

 

[ChromeGasCap]

A burner phone is a phone that even law enforcement can not take back to you.
A phones position can still be triangulated and the user be found. It can still be tracked back to the user, however Anonymous.
A true burner is one good for a finite number of uses before tossing it to move onto a next one.
There used to be, and probably still is, an entire industry dedicated to capturing phone details by interceptibf active calls over the air, so that the data can be used to clone another phone to identical to a phone from captured data. These phones are used by spies, drug dealers and other deviants.

Edit: I do not care what some author wrote, which is incorrect like many authors do these days. A burner is to be burned, a backup is a backup to be used as long as you need it.

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

I laugh that what people term to be a burner phone. What everyone refers to a burner phone is merely a secondary phone.
A burner phone is typically a phone cloned to be a mirror of another phone belonging to an unsuspecting victim. All calls are billed to the victims phone, so can NEVER be tracked back to the user of the burner.
Because of the nature of the burners, they are only good for a handful of calls.
It is not recommended to use a burner phone for data or text.

The PURPOSE of any kind of Burner Phone is to discard and walk away clean, with no connection to the user.

Whether that's a pay as you go phone that you used untraceable cash, and a made up name.... or doing like you said, using a cloned phone.

Either way, the point is to sever that connection between the user and the device with zero footprints between the two.