B.C. LifeLabs workers issue 72-hour strike notice

PoorGuy

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https://globalnews.ca/news/11018223/lifelabs-strike-notice-bc/

I always go to the Victoria Dr. Lifelabs location to do my Getcheckedonline tests and its a very important resource for both SP's and perberts.

Its going to be a gong show with striking staff keeping the bare minimum service necessary to keep lab tests running for the many seniors that rely on this service in their local neighbourhood. Luckily I have an appointment booked this Saturday just before the strike begins for my monthly Getcheckedonline test. I had to book it two weeks ahead and that shows how many people rely on LfieLabs.
 

PuntMeister

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Ya, short of allowing the complete shut down of crucial services or banning unions altogether, our system is fucked with industry after industry stagnating from cripling adversarial labour disputes. I can’t really blame the workers or the companies—they are both thrust into conflicting motives and self-interested representation like a pool of greedy lawyers. The people who rely on the products or services are the ones who end up suffering.

This is also one of the reasons Canada exports its raw materials but can’t compete well in secondary industries unless it is a captive market here in Canada. The climate is just too nasty and unreliable to invest in.

I would like to see a model that breaks through all the heat and hatred, looks impartially at comparables and sustainable business conditions, and resolves labour issues more amicably within the range they end up at anyway. I’d rather see up-front facilitation then prolonged strikes, social disruption, media feasting, and eventual arbitration.
 

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Having been on both sides of the bargaining table, I would like to add that the collective bargaining process (especially in BC) is an incredibly wasteful and divisive croc of shit. Culture and competitiveness destroyer numero uno.

We will remain a resource economy until the systems, structures, laws, and especially the Labour Relation-destroying Board figure out to get stakeholders on the same side of the table looking at the problems and opportunities together.

Probably won’t happen in my lifetime.

Enjoy the tarrif wars. We make it way too easy to be beholden to other countries.
 
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The end problem is the Haves and Have Nots.
Our society is keyed to the profit, profit, profit mentality. A company needs to make profit, it chooses to eliminate high paying workers who make their company run smoothly. If the workers want to unionize, the owners shut the company down (look at Amazon in Quebec). Pretty much in any company when management drives the bottom line, you will find workers quitting or union forming. The workers think why am I working my ass off and I get nothing in return... Prime example is fast food franchises.

Companies have been killing benefits for years. Pensions, sick days, bonuses if deadlines met, Christmas bonuses, Medical, dental (for families), working conditions, safety etc.
A big one for workers is job security when they get sick. Under 40 a person is usually healthy, it when they get over 40 their body starts to shut down. Your kid is sick, you need to use a sick day.

Years ago I sat with a friend and talked about Labour Day (monday in September) and how it didn't mean much. Now go back to the Winnipeg strikes of 1919.

Most companies complain "its hard to find good workers", when all they are looking for are wage slaves. If companies don't look after the workers, the company goes for shit. A company that dose not want to pay higher wages or benefits usually end up moving to another cheaper labour pool, usually not in the company.

So that just ends up with hospitals, firemen, police.....government jobs

So the solution is to steal a truck load of merchandise and sell on Amazon.... Cheaper than retail stores.... Which is against what the Cdn government negotiated when online shopping began in earnest.

Gotta start fining Amazon for breaking those deals.

Amazon has to stop the resale/turnover of merchandise on their website. Same item, just a higher price and different company with higher shipping rates.
 

PuntMeister

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Consumers can choose not to buy from companies that they consider to treat their employees as wage slaves. They generally don’t though, and so we have efficient, thriving fast food, fast merchandise, and fast everything sectors (other than government services which have cornered the market on slow and innefficient).

Consumers can be quite the hypocrites, bitching about low labour rates, foreign workers, and corporate greed while munching on a happy meal and holding big corporate stocks in their RRSP portfolios. Consumers en masse go for the deals, and that is human nature. During times of threat, “Buy Canadian” will only work to some extent, for a while, but there is a price to be paid for patriotism that will only tolerate so much gap.

I agree that what we are left with is government workers, resource companies, and businesses that just serve the local Canadian economy. Oh, and money grubbing banks, lawyers, and politicians. Even the charities just want your money and happily skim their healthy admin costs.

Taxing, penalizing, and fining companies that are successful at what they do is not the answer, popular as that sentiment might sound. That would be like kicking your dog for being a dog. Better to set up effective ground rules and a regulatory framework that encourages free competition and innovation. We could sure use better competition in telecom, internet, and cable services. Placing fines on Telus, Bel, or Rogers won’t accomplish that. Making it feasible (Gasp) for Verizon, T-mobile, or O2 to challenge the fat biggies here could.

However, an industry ground rule could / should be that some proportion of Canadian-based employment serves Canadian-based markets, and every company has to pay competitive living wages by category / location. Then the government should get the fuck out of the way and let the market decide.

I’d like to see minimum wages changed to an assured income model. We still need opportunities for entry level workers and recent grads, but someone who can drive a delivery van or has operated a printing press for five years ought to have a wage bracket that starts higher up. One minimum wage just dumbs us down as an economy and actually lowers our standard of living. Set the brackets up correctly, and adjust them annually to include all the shit that comes up in bargaining, strikes, lockouts, and reasons for company to leave Canada. No fines needed and minimum pay doesn’t need to become a crippling labour issue if fairly set, nor competitiveness for local markets.
Now if there is no captive Canadian market and we still want a secondary manufacturing industry to turn Canadian minerals and aluminum into dishwashers and laptops, but we can’t compete internationally in these sectors, then either the government needs to provide income supplements (not sustainable), tax relief, transportation passes, assisted housing, etc. for specific strategic export industries, or simply except that these businesses are going to have to operate with more flexibility and lower labour rates, red-tape reduction, tax incentives, logistics and import/export streamlining, etc. Otherwise, our value-added export industries go tits-up, which they largely have. And those that haven’t are clearly vulnerable to tariffs.

I don’t know if Carnage or Pee-Pee can figure this out. If they don’t, we will be mired in conflict for the rest of our working lives.
 
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Interesting fact: Lifelabs is now US owned.
Aside from the fact this doubles the chances they will act like dicks towards their workers, it means your Canadian confidential medical records will no longer be safe, because they will violate Canadian pivacy laws at will and send your data to US storage centres to be picked over by people like Musk and his DOGE team.

If you do not like that, write your MP and demand that part of their retaliation against the US include removing the ability of Canadian health care services to be US owned or rely on US data services that can easily be compromised and used against Canadians.
 

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Just came back from the location and as expected I had to wait half an hour even with appointment. All chairs full and heard a couple of Getcheckedonline scans so good on you men.

The only alternative is to go directly to the outpatient labs at local hospitals to do your tests and it’s entirely not convenient for most people. I.E diamond pavilion health care building at VGH.
 

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Interesting fact: Lifelabs is now US owned.
Aside from the fact this doubles the chances they will act like dicks towards their workers, it means your Canadian confidential medical records will no longer be safe, because they will violate Canadian pivacy laws at will and send your data to US storage centres to be picked over by people like Musk and his DOGE team.

If you do not like that, write your MP and demand that part of their retaliation against the US include removing the ability of Canadian health care services to be US owned or rely on US data services that can easily be compromised and used against Canadians.
Just what do you think Musk, or anyone would find, or do with your medical records? What world-changing information are you holding that you think anyone would search out your medical records? I'll bet Amazon, Tik Tok or Rogers knows more about you.
 
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westwoody

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Medical records are very valuable for employers.
People with diabetes or heart problems can be considered high risk and employers may avoid hiring them.
Same if someone has had mental issues.
Or survived a serious car accident that left them with potential disabilities in future.
 
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PuntMeister

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As an employer, I would never ever risk looking at anyone’s medical records. It seems ironic that to get valid travel insurance though, I have to disclose every medical condition I know about. But I do not have disclose my psychotic delusions to get a job minding nuclear missiles.

For hiring, employers are required to rely on the great roulette wheel in the sky. So employers use interviews and reference checks to try and identify healthy reliable employees. Of course that doesn’t always work.

Fortunately there are lots of high paying government jobs for people with mental issues. Maybe less so in the USA nowadays. as the government seems to be weeding out the stupid spenders and useless administrators.

Fortunately anyone is free to start their own business if they don’t like how the private or public sector works. Just call yourself Elon or something weird and go for it.
 

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As an employer, I would never ever risk looking at anyone’s medical records. It seems ironic that to get valid travel insurance though, I have to disclose every medical condition I know about. But I do not have disclose my psychotic delusions to get a job minding nuclear missiles.

For hiring, employers are required to rely on the great roulette wheel in the sky. So employers use interviews and reference checks to try and identify healthy reliable employees. Of course that doesn’t always work.

Fortunately there are lots of high paying government jobs for people with mental issues. Maybe less so in the USA nowadays. as the government seems to be weeding out the stupid spenders and useless administrators.

Fortunately anyone is free to start their own business if they don’t like how the private or public sector works. Just call yourself Elon or something weird and go for it.
If you become president of the United States you can mind the world’s second biggest collection of nuclear missiles without going through any pesky phycological analysis, apparently any idiot can get that job.
 

rlock

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Just what do you think Musk, or anyone would find, or do with your medical records? What world-changing information are you holding that you think anyone would search out your medical records? I'll bet Amazon, Tik Tok or Rogers knows more about you.

Well, all personal info has some value if you are willing to go dark enough.

But I'll give you an easy one:
They decide to develop an AI program that can use records of STI tests, contraception, abortion, identify who is likely an SP or client of SP's, and put those names on a watch list at the border, for extra scrutiny and possible bans.
Think they wouldn't? They already do this with US health records to flag women who got abortions and doctors or pharmacists who may have provided them the means to get them, and then prosecute them.

Stop thinking of the USA like the old USA, and start thinking of them as the next Iran or Saudi Arabia: A dictatorship with a MAGA version of "religious police", with broad powers to abuse people.
 
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