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dare.devil

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How did Biden steal money exactly? What part of his appropriation process was below board?
What companies is Biden invested in /owner of that did better because he was prez that he didnt divest himself of?How much of Musks fortune is due to gov spending already? Why are 26 of Trumps apointees 100+ millionaires? How is a guy with white power tatoos getting put in charge of the military?
Are your critisims equally applied , or are you playing team sports?

Im just asking questions

Your attempts at both-sidesing are very poor and lack both insight and imagination.You're gonna need better talking points than you've been getting fed in your daily affirmation in the cult. Had you say, gone after Pelosi for insider trading then i would agree with you. But what you've put out is unsupported.
Just use the common sense man, if a person steals or getting bribe, I dont think they will record it into books. You have all the justifications and questions when supporting your side.
Some questions for you,
How come the war ended in few days before Trump becomes president and for multiple months it kept on going? with so much suffering, human loss and pollution.
How come Hunter Biden pardoned??
How come Kamala became worst VP to best president candidate for you?
How come sloppy Afghantistan retreat gave everything to Taliban?
How come Border became wide open?
How come voter id became racist?
How come Musk and DT thieves?
Why Musk was richest even under Dems?
I can say similar thing as well that you are being fed with left cult propoganda. Its becoming old tactics to ask other person for better talking points, Trump supporters thugs, uneducated or oh I am too good to talk to this person as I am self proclaimed know it all and others are just fed with propoganda lol.
 
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Yeah now i

Yeah right now its Trump isnt it?, congress vanished lol. Stay consistent please.
I have no idea what you're even attempting to say. Regardless, Congress holds the power of the purse, and this is usually taught in most elementary civics classes.
 

dare.devil

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I understand your frustration if you are American when you look at the budget allocation for Us federal level.

Keep in mind that the illegals contribute roughly 73 billions in taxes at the federal and state level while costing 66 billions

As for the foreign aid to Ukraine and Israel are getting it's mostly armement and supplies that are bought at approximately 90% from US Arm makers and suppliers . True that wars are not the best way to spend your tax dollar , never was and never will be ... What I don't understand is why it's such a big deal now when it has been a free for all with no real oversight or check and balance for the subsidies to the US military complex since the 50s .
[Keep in mind that the illegals contribute roughly 73 billions in taxes at the federal and state level while costing 66 billions]- Are you talking about people living legally and working and not asylum seekers/freeloaders.

[As for the foreign aid to Ukraine and Israel are getting it's mostly armement and supplies that are bought at approximately 90% from US Arm makers and suppliers]- Thats what I am telling its big business for few and wont stop wars but start new ones for profits at the expense of life and instability of whole world.
 
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Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. - H.L. Mencken

I have a feeling a lot of Trump's dull-witted supporters will discover what good and hard feels like when their hero doesn't even use a lube.
 

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Just use the common sense.man.
Why would you require of me something you're not willing to do? Your arguments are conspiracy theories at best and propaganda that you've willingly gulped down from the one pissing on all of us more accurately. Just trust me bro doesn't cut it when you make these claims while ignoring proven events.
 

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Why would you require of me something you're not willing to do? Your arguments are conspiracy theories at best and propaganda that you've willingly gulped down from the one pissing on all of us more accurately. Just trust me bro doesn't cut it when you make these claims while ignoring proven events.
Ok thats fine, probably its all rubbish what I wrote.or its proven only when you say it and rest is just conspiracy and propoganda.
please support this which you blabbered at first place "hail the kleptocracy"?
 

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Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. - H.L. Mencken

I have a feeling a lot of Trump's dull-witted supporters will discover what good and hard feels like when their hero doesn't even use a lube.
Thats what I was talking "Trump's dull-witted supporters" - Oh the chosen ones, doesnt it feel good and superior when you say it?
 

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Ok thats fine, probably its all rubbish what I wrote.or its proven only when you say it and rest is just conspiracy and propoganda.
please support this which you blabbered at first place "hail the kleptocracy"?
Documented that The Orange Foolius Regime PT1 overcharged his secret service detail and made them stay in his hotel. Gutted net nuetrality. Trumpcoins. Trump NFTs. Trump Bibles. Trump University. Trump steaks. The Trump Charity. Ivanka in Government. Speedball Jr. in Gov.

Theres more but yhe first was enough.
 

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The rhetoric coming from the US is something you have to take seriously even if you see it as comical or satirical
Many say you should read the Art of the Deal, but truth be known, you should really be reading The Art Of War by Sun Tzu.
This book will give you much more insight, than will The Art Of The Deal.

EDIT: Every canadian politician should be reading The Art Of War, as well as write a report on how the book applies to canadian relations.
My lawyer for my 2nd divorce, a tatted up biker, gave me a copy of the Art of War and demanded I read it as soon as she wanted to do a "collaborative" separation agreement. Which was anything but a collaboration. Its a good read if you are going into any battle, negotiation, tough round of discussions and so on. Helped me keep my costs down to ... well down a bit.
 
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dare.devil

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I'm sorry. Trump's supporters, who believe an elderly felon, rapist, grifter and conman is going to make their lives better, are obviously fucking geniuses.
I dont care what you think, in a free world you can think whatever you want.

Anyone could rapist here, just need one Stormy to come and say the sex wasnt consensual & bite in the ass, so pls stop this rapist BS.
I can say same thing about you all as well, supporters of war mongers, plamln assasination of opponent, enemies of Democracy and believers who think that Biden and company or any politician is clean and not grifter. Just open cases with political motive, all of them will be convicted felons, just wait and watch.
 
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dare.devil

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Documented that The Orange Foolius Regime PT1 overcharged his secret service detail and made them stay in his hotel. Gutted net nuetrality. Trumpcoins. Trump NFTs. Trump Bibles. Trump University. Trump steaks. The Trump Charity. Ivanka in Government. Speedball Jr. in Gov.

Theres more but yhe first was enough.
I am not sure how it is supporting your point. Its called Business, hope You are aware that he was a businessman before becoming politician as well. If you dont like the product dont buy it.
I dont know if American constitution says after becoming president one cant do business, but certainly its not called theft
 

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Andrew Coyne, pulling no punches, on the incoming US administration:
“Nothing mattered, in the end. Not the probable dementia, the unfathomable ignorance, the emotional incontinence; not, certainly, the shambling, hate-filled campaign, or the ludicrously unworkable anti-policies.
The candidate out on bail in four jurisdictions, the convicted fraud artist, the adjudicated rapist and serial sexual predator, the habitual bankrupt, the stooge of Vladimir Putin, the man who tried to overturn the last election and all of his creepy retinue of crooks, ideologues and lunatics: Americans took a long look at all this and said, yes please.
There is no sense in understating the depth of the disaster. This is a crisis like no other in our lifetimes. The government of the United States has been delivered into the hands of a gangster, whose sole purpose in running, besides staying out of jail, is to seek revenge on his enemies. The damage Donald Trump and his nihilist cronies can do – to America, but also to its democratic allies, and to the peace and security of the world – is incalculable. We are living in the time of Nero.
The first six months will be a time of maximum peril. NATO must from this moment be considered effectively obsolete, without the American security guarantee that has always been its bedrock. We may see new incursions by Russia into Europe – the poor Ukrainians are probably done for, but now it is the Baltics and the Poles who must worry – before the Europeans have time to organize an alternative. China may also accelerate its Taiwanese ambitions.
At home, Mr. Trump will be moving swiftly to consolidate his power. Some of this will be institutional – the replacement of tens of thousands of career civil servants with Trumpian loyalists. But some of it will be … atmospheric.
At some point someone – a company whose chief executive has displeased him, a media critic who has gotten under his skin – will find themselves the subject of unwanted attention from the Trump administration. It might not be so crude as a police arrest. It might just be a little regulatory matter, a tax audit, something like that. They will seek the protection of the courts, and find it is not there.
The judges are also Trump loyalists, perhaps, or too scared to confront him. Or they might issue a ruling, and find it has no effect – that the administration has called the basic bluff of liberal democracy: the idea that, in the crunch, people in power agree to be bound by the law, and by its instruments the courts, the same as everyone else. Then everyone will take their cue. Executives will line up to court him. Media organizations, the large ones anyway, will find reasons to be cheerful.
Of course, in reality things will start to fall apart fairly quickly. The huge across-the-board tariffs he imposes will tank the world economy. The massive deficits, fuelled by his ill-judged tax policies – he won’t replace the income tax, as he promised, but will fill it with holes – and monetized, at his direction, by the Federal Reserve, will ignite a new round of inflation.
Most of all, the insane project of deporting 12 million undocumented immigrants – finding them, rounding them up and detaining them in hundreds of internment camps around the country, probably for years, before doing so – will consume his administration. But by then it will be too late.
We should not count upon the majority of Americans coming to their senses in any event. They were not able to see Mr. Trump for what he was before: why should that change? Would they not, rather, be further coarsened by the experience of seeing their neighbours dragged off by the police, or the military, further steeled to the necessity of doing “tough things” to “restore order?”
Some won’t, of course. But they will find in time that the democratic levers they might once have pulled to demand change are no longer attached to anything. There are still elections, but the rules have been altered: there are certain obstacles, certain disadvantages if you are not with the party of power. It will seem easier at first to try to change things from within. Then it will be easier not to change things.
All of this will wash over Canada in various ways – some predictable, like the flood of refugees seeking escape from the camps; some less so, like the coarsening of our own politics, the debasement of morals and norms by politicians who have discovered there is no political price to be paid for it. And who will have the backing of their patron in Washington.
All my life I have been an admirer of the United States and its people. But I am frightened of it now, and I am even more frightened of them.
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Keep in mind that the illegals contribute roughly 73 billions in taxes at the federal and state level while costing 66 billions- Are you talking about people living legally and working and not asylum seekers/freeloaders.

As for the foreign aid to Ukraine and Israel are getting it's mostly armement and supplies that are bought at approximately 90% from US Arm makers and suppliers- Thats what I am telling its big business for few and wont stop wars but start new ones for profits at the expense of life and instability of whole world.
Based on the numbers it would be the people living illegally in the USA.


Im with you about big business profiting from US sponsored or financed wars . At this point ....in the case of the Ukrainian war ....Can the west including the US allow Putin total or a major victory ? Or how big of a territorial grab should be allowed which is a stake at this point ? As its a matter of dealing with a dictator that has his foothold in a lot of territory without having reached a natural barrier to real secure his own country ( still his goal on top of the ressources)


I am not sure how it is supporting your point. Its called Business, hope You are aware that he was a businessman before becoming politician as well. If you dont like the product dont buy it.
I dont know if American constitution says after becoming president one cant do business, but certainly its not called theft
Not all theft .

Some were opportunistic marketing for the gullibles

Some were pure conflict of interest which has been frowned upon for centuries in politics and judicial system for a few centuries among democratic nations

Stealing money from a trust funds
because the charitable organisation has your name on it ; it is still theft . The minute the money is put in trust it is not yours to use unless its to promote and provide the tools necessary for raising more funds . Buying art for your house among other things is not something donators want or expect.
 
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