Banned on X as hate speech, so fuck you Elon I’m spreading it
2025 Canadian Political Thread
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I only copied the comment about his climate change agenda, which he seems to think he can single handedly save the planet, with no regard for the destruction his zeal has caused to Canada’s economy. His other area was his focus on indigenous people with his endless apologies for past injustices, yet is unable to provide clean drinking water to many reserves that need it.
His third area of focus was on gender equality which has made the country a laughing stock due providing tampons in men’s washrooms and other foolish notions.
I'm old enough to remember the priorities of the last CPC Harper regime.
The first thing they did was lower the corporate tax rate from 22% to 15%.
Then they handed out billions more in corporate subsidies.
$13.7 billion to GM and Chrysler
$350 million to Bombardier
$800 million to SNC Lavalin
And for shits and giggles, $5 million to Caterpillar, which promptly up and left Canada with our money.
All these billions to corporations, they told us, would trickle down and create millions of jobs and stimulate the economy. It would make us rich!
How did that work out?
Lucky for the CPC, their supporters are so easy to hoodwink and bamboozle. They'll swallow any bullshit they're fed.
The first thing they did was lower the corporate tax rate from 22% to 15%.
Then they handed out billions more in corporate subsidies.
$13.7 billion to GM and Chrysler
$350 million to Bombardier
$800 million to SNC Lavalin
And for shits and giggles, $5 million to Caterpillar, which promptly up and left Canada with our money.
All these billions to corporations, they told us, would trickle down and create millions of jobs and stimulate the economy. It would make us rich!
How did that work out?
Lucky for the CPC, their supporters are so easy to hoodwink and bamboozle. They'll swallow any bullshit they're fed.
Justin Trudeau finally breaks down and visits a remote northern rez. With news crews following him around as they tour the place,
he asks the chief if there was anything the people need.
"Well," says the chief, "We have three very important needs. First, we have a medical clinic, but no doctor."
Justin whips out his phone, dials a number, talks to somebody for two minutes and then hangs up. "I've pulled some strings.
Your doctor will arrive in a few days. Now what was the second problem?"
"We have no way to get clean water. The local mining operation has poisoned the water our people been drinking for thousands of years.
We've been flying bottled water in, and it's terribly expensive."
Once again, Trudeau dials a number, yells into the phone for a few minutes, and then hangs up. "The mine has been shut down, and the owner
is being billed for setting up a purification plant for your people. Now what was that third problem?"
"We have no cellphone reception up here," the chief says.
he asks the chief if there was anything the people need.
"Well," says the chief, "We have three very important needs. First, we have a medical clinic, but no doctor."
Justin whips out his phone, dials a number, talks to somebody for two minutes and then hangs up. "I've pulled some strings.
Your doctor will arrive in a few days. Now what was the second problem?"
"We have no way to get clean water. The local mining operation has poisoned the water our people been drinking for thousands of years.
We've been flying bottled water in, and it's terribly expensive."
Once again, Trudeau dials a number, yells into the phone for a few minutes, and then hangs up. "The mine has been shut down, and the owner
is being billed for setting up a purification plant for your people. Now what was that third problem?"
"We have no cellphone reception up here," the chief says.
"I only copied the comment about his climate change agenda, which he seems to think he can single handedly save the planet, with no regard for the destruction his zeal has caused to Canada’s economy."
If you truly believe Canada is the only nation fighting GHG emissions with carbon pricing, cap and trade, and conversion to renewables, you should probably get yourself a passport and do some travelling outside of your bubble. Or at least rely on better sources for your information than propaganda outlets like Rebel Media and the National Post.
Because your statement is abject horseshit.
And by the way, the Canadian economy is doing much better now than it was during the Harper/Poilievre years with those two recessions, two stock market crashes, and 9% unemployment.
If you truly believe Canada is the only nation fighting GHG emissions with carbon pricing, cap and trade, and conversion to renewables, you should probably get yourself a passport and do some travelling outside of your bubble. Or at least rely on better sources for your information than propaganda outlets like Rebel Media and the National Post.
Because your statement is abject horseshit.
And by the way, the Canadian economy is doing much better now than it was during the Harper/Poilievre years with those two recessions, two stock market crashes, and 9% unemployment.
trudeau is done so you’ll have to look for some other knight in shining armor to save the planet. Fool that Trudeau is he punished hard working Canadians with his useless carbon tax. Please provide some hard evidence that it made one bit of difference.
liberal boondoggle illustrated below:
Below are key quotes from the Parliamentary Budget Officer’s (PBO) report: Costing Support for EV Battery Manufacturing. It suggests the cost of the subsidies will be many billions of dollars higher than what the government announced.
- “PBO estimates the total cost of government support for EV battery manufacturing by Northvolt, Volkswagen and Stellantis-LGES to be $43.6 billion over 2022-23 to 2032-33 – $5.8 billion higher than the announced costs of $37.7 billion.”
- “Maintaining equivalency with the US Advanced Manufacturing Production Credit will result in foregone corporate income tax revenues of $5.8 billion.”
- “Assuming that the support for EV battery manufacturing is deficit-financed, we estimate that public debt charges for federal and provincial governments would further increase the total cost by $6.6 billion over 2022-23 to 2032-33.”
The PBO’s report illustrates that the battery plant subsidies will burden Canadian taxpayers for decades.
Reminds when Jean Crethien was given the title of "Walking Eagle".
He thought that was quite the honour.
Until he was told they gave that name to birds that were so full of shit they couldn't fly.
hahaha
you work for the Toronto Star?
doing better under the Turd?
you want to talk horseshit, that's complete and utter bullshit
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/adam-zivo-no-trudeau-did-not-make-canada-richer
we've been in a recession for 2 yrs
the only reason why it's not on the books is because the Turd
brought in 3-5 million people for ideological/political purposes not economic
it's juked the numbers, makes them look better than they are
like the recent job report, 90,000 new jobs
yeah, 40,000 of which are gov't jobs, more debt, cause there isn't a gov't at any level in this country that's in good financial shape
not according to you though, or the Liberal propaganda dept the Star
here's a good one on the lie that we need to bring in immigrants for our own sake, the solution
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u_S5zj96sLM
and a better one to just laugh at
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gdKTp7VvLiw
oh christ how can you be so delusional?
better?
have you not watched the news in the last 2 years?
talked to anyone?
no one is better off than they were in 2015
our per capita GDP is flat from then, if not down slightly
our debt has doubled federally, taxes are up
2 million are visiting the food banks monthly
people are struggling to feed/house themselves
every metric is worse, unless you're a useful idiot Liberal Cult member
you know the 20% still clinging to the
UNCLE STEVE IS STILL THE PROBLEM
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Corpos are doing just fine, better than ever, its just not distributed correctly; easier to control the masses when they're desperate.
As Trump threatens Canada, ‘there’s something dangerous brewing’
U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's increasingly bold threats against Canada's economy and sovereignty suggest "there's something dangerous brewing" and a serious response is needed, a U.S. analyst says.
David Frum, a staff writer at The Atlantic who has covered U.S. politics for decades, doesn't believe Trump actually wants to make Canada a U.S. state, but says the fact the incoming president keeps repeating that idea means he's eying some kind of aggressive action.
"If you're living with a mentally unstable partner and he says, 'I'm going to push you down the stairs,' he may not literally mean to push you down the stairs," Frum told Mercedes Stephenson in an interview that aired Sunday on The West Block.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...mething-dangerous-brewing-analyst/ar-BB1rk8sS
I will never forgive Americans for electing that fat, deranged asshole again.
U.S. president-elect Donald Trump's increasingly bold threats against Canada's economy and sovereignty suggest "there's something dangerous brewing" and a serious response is needed, a U.S. analyst says.
David Frum, a staff writer at The Atlantic who has covered U.S. politics for decades, doesn't believe Trump actually wants to make Canada a U.S. state, but says the fact the incoming president keeps repeating that idea means he's eying some kind of aggressive action.
"If you're living with a mentally unstable partner and he says, 'I'm going to push you down the stairs,' he may not literally mean to push you down the stairs," Frum told Mercedes Stephenson in an interview that aired Sunday on The West Block.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/...mething-dangerous-brewing-analyst/ar-BB1rk8sS
I will never forgive Americans for electing that fat, deranged asshole again.
Jean Chretien is 91 today and he gave himself a birthday present. He told Donald J. Trump to piss off in the The Globe and Mail. Here's his column:
* * *
Today is my 91st birthday.
It’s an opportunity to celebrate with family and friends. To look back on the life I’ve had the privilege to lead. And to reflect on how much this country we all love so much has grown and changed over the course of the nine decades I’ve been on this Earth.
This year, I’ve also decided to give myself a birthday present. I’m going to do something in this article that I don’t do very often anymore, and sound off on a big issue affecting the state of the nation and profoundly bothering me and so many other Canadians: The totally unacceptable insults and unprecedented threats to our very sovereignty from U.S. president-elect Donald Trump.
I have two very clear and simple messages.
To Donald Trump, from one old guy to another: Give your head a shake! What could make you think that Canadians would ever give up the best country in the world – and make no mistake, that is what we are – to join the United States?
I can tell you Canadians prize our independence. We love our country. We have built something here that is the envy of the world – when it comes to compassion, understanding, tolerance and finding a way for people of different backgrounds and faiths to live together in harmony.
We’ve also built a strong social safety net – especially with public health care – that we are very proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s based on the principle that the most vulnerable among us should be protected.
This may not be the “American Way” or “the Trump Way.” But it is the reality I have witnessed and lived my whole long life.
If you think that threatening and insulting us is going to win us over, you really don’t know a thing about us. You don’t know that when it came to fighting in two world wars for freedom, we signed up – both times – years before your country did. We fought and we sacrificed well beyond our numbers.
We also had the guts to say no to your country when it tried to drag us into a completely unjustified and destabilizing war in Iraq.
We built a nation across the most rugged, challenging geography imaginable. And we did it against the odds.
We may look easy-going. Mild-mannered. But make no mistake, we have spine and toughness.
And that leads me to my second message, to all our leaders, federal and provincial, as well as those who are aspiring to lead our country: Start showing that spine and toughness. That’s what Canadians want to see – what they need to see. It’s called leadership. You need to lead. Canadians are ready to follow.
I know the spirit is there. Ever since Mr. Trump’s attacks, every political party is speaking out in favour of Canada. In fact, it is to my great satisfaction that even the Bloc Québécois is defending Canada.
But you don’t win a hockey game by only playing defence. We all know that even when we satisfy one demand, Mr. Trump will come back with another, bigger demand. That’s not diplomacy; it’s blackmail.
We need another approach – one that will break this cycle.
Mr. Trump has accomplished one thing: He has unified Canadians more than we have been ever before! All leaders across our country have united in resolve to defend Canadian interests.
When I came into office as prime minister, Canada faced a national unity crisis. The threat of Quebec separation was very real. We took action to deal with this existential threat in a manner that made Canadians, including Quebeckers, stronger, more united and even prouder of Canadian values.
Now there is another existential threat. And we once again need to reduce our vulnerability. That is the challenge for this generation of political leaders.
And you won’t accomplish it by using the same old approaches. Just like we did 30 years ago, we need a Plan B for 2025.
Yes, telling the Americans we are their best friends and closest trading partner is good. So is lobbying hard in Washington and the state capitals, pointing out that tariffs will hurt the American economy too. So are retaliatory tariffs – when you are attacked, you have to defend yourself.
But we also have to play offence. Let’s tell Mr. Trump that we too have border issues with the United States. Canada has tough gun control legislation, but illegal guns are pouring in from the U.S. We need to tell him that we expect the United States to act to reduce the number of guns crossing into Canada.
We also want to protect the Arctic. But the United States refuses to recognize the Northwest Passage, insisting that it is an international waterway, even though it flows through the Canadian Arctic as Canadian waters. We need the United States to recognize the Northwest Passage as being Canadian waters.
We also need to reduce Canada’s vulnerability in the first place. We need to be stronger. There are more trade barriers between provinces than between Canada and the United States. Let’s launch a national project to get rid of those barriers! And let’s strengthen the ties that bind this vast nation together through projects such as real national energy grid.
We also have to understand that Mr. Trump isn’t just threatening us; he’s also targeting a growing list of other countries, as well as the European Union itself, and he is just getting started. Canada should quickly convene a meeting of the leaders of Denmark, Panama, Mexico, as well as with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to formulate a plan for fighting back these threats.
Every time that Mr. Trump opens his mouth, he creates new allies for all of us. So let’s get organized! To fight back against a big, powerful bully, you need strength in numbers.
The whole point is not to wait in dread for Donald Trump’s next blow. It’s to build a country and an international community that can withstand those blows.
Canadians know me. They know I am an optimist. That I am practical. And that I always speak my mind. I made my share of mistakes over a long career, but I never for a moment doubted the decency of my fellow Canadians – or of my political opponents.
The current and future generations of political leaders should remember they are not each other’s enemies – they are opponents. Nobody ever loved the cut-and-thrust of politics more than me, but I always understood that each of us was trying to make a positive contribution to make our community or country a better place.
That spirit is more important now than ever, as we address this new challenge. Our leaders should keep that in mind.
I am 91 today and blessed with good health. I am ready at the ramparts to help defend the independence of our country as I have done all my life.
Vive le Canada!
(This photo is from an appearance by M. Chretien on The Agenda with Steve Paikin in 2018).
* * *
Today is my 91st birthday.
It’s an opportunity to celebrate with family and friends. To look back on the life I’ve had the privilege to lead. And to reflect on how much this country we all love so much has grown and changed over the course of the nine decades I’ve been on this Earth.
This year, I’ve also decided to give myself a birthday present. I’m going to do something in this article that I don’t do very often anymore, and sound off on a big issue affecting the state of the nation and profoundly bothering me and so many other Canadians: The totally unacceptable insults and unprecedented threats to our very sovereignty from U.S. president-elect Donald Trump.
I have two very clear and simple messages.
To Donald Trump, from one old guy to another: Give your head a shake! What could make you think that Canadians would ever give up the best country in the world – and make no mistake, that is what we are – to join the United States?
I can tell you Canadians prize our independence. We love our country. We have built something here that is the envy of the world – when it comes to compassion, understanding, tolerance and finding a way for people of different backgrounds and faiths to live together in harmony.
We’ve also built a strong social safety net – especially with public health care – that we are very proud of. It’s not perfect, but it’s based on the principle that the most vulnerable among us should be protected.
This may not be the “American Way” or “the Trump Way.” But it is the reality I have witnessed and lived my whole long life.
If you think that threatening and insulting us is going to win us over, you really don’t know a thing about us. You don’t know that when it came to fighting in two world wars for freedom, we signed up – both times – years before your country did. We fought and we sacrificed well beyond our numbers.
We also had the guts to say no to your country when it tried to drag us into a completely unjustified and destabilizing war in Iraq.
We built a nation across the most rugged, challenging geography imaginable. And we did it against the odds.
We may look easy-going. Mild-mannered. But make no mistake, we have spine and toughness.
And that leads me to my second message, to all our leaders, federal and provincial, as well as those who are aspiring to lead our country: Start showing that spine and toughness. That’s what Canadians want to see – what they need to see. It’s called leadership. You need to lead. Canadians are ready to follow.
I know the spirit is there. Ever since Mr. Trump’s attacks, every political party is speaking out in favour of Canada. In fact, it is to my great satisfaction that even the Bloc Québécois is defending Canada.
But you don’t win a hockey game by only playing defence. We all know that even when we satisfy one demand, Mr. Trump will come back with another, bigger demand. That’s not diplomacy; it’s blackmail.
We need another approach – one that will break this cycle.
Mr. Trump has accomplished one thing: He has unified Canadians more than we have been ever before! All leaders across our country have united in resolve to defend Canadian interests.
When I came into office as prime minister, Canada faced a national unity crisis. The threat of Quebec separation was very real. We took action to deal with this existential threat in a manner that made Canadians, including Quebeckers, stronger, more united and even prouder of Canadian values.
Now there is another existential threat. And we once again need to reduce our vulnerability. That is the challenge for this generation of political leaders.
And you won’t accomplish it by using the same old approaches. Just like we did 30 years ago, we need a Plan B for 2025.
Yes, telling the Americans we are their best friends and closest trading partner is good. So is lobbying hard in Washington and the state capitals, pointing out that tariffs will hurt the American economy too. So are retaliatory tariffs – when you are attacked, you have to defend yourself.
But we also have to play offence. Let’s tell Mr. Trump that we too have border issues with the United States. Canada has tough gun control legislation, but illegal guns are pouring in from the U.S. We need to tell him that we expect the United States to act to reduce the number of guns crossing into Canada.
We also want to protect the Arctic. But the United States refuses to recognize the Northwest Passage, insisting that it is an international waterway, even though it flows through the Canadian Arctic as Canadian waters. We need the United States to recognize the Northwest Passage as being Canadian waters.
We also need to reduce Canada’s vulnerability in the first place. We need to be stronger. There are more trade barriers between provinces than between Canada and the United States. Let’s launch a national project to get rid of those barriers! And let’s strengthen the ties that bind this vast nation together through projects such as real national energy grid.
We also have to understand that Mr. Trump isn’t just threatening us; he’s also targeting a growing list of other countries, as well as the European Union itself, and he is just getting started. Canada should quickly convene a meeting of the leaders of Denmark, Panama, Mexico, as well as with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, to formulate a plan for fighting back these threats.
Every time that Mr. Trump opens his mouth, he creates new allies for all of us. So let’s get organized! To fight back against a big, powerful bully, you need strength in numbers.
The whole point is not to wait in dread for Donald Trump’s next blow. It’s to build a country and an international community that can withstand those blows.
Canadians know me. They know I am an optimist. That I am practical. And that I always speak my mind. I made my share of mistakes over a long career, but I never for a moment doubted the decency of my fellow Canadians – or of my political opponents.
The current and future generations of political leaders should remember they are not each other’s enemies – they are opponents. Nobody ever loved the cut-and-thrust of politics more than me, but I always understood that each of us was trying to make a positive contribution to make our community or country a better place.
That spirit is more important now than ever, as we address this new challenge. Our leaders should keep that in mind.
I am 91 today and blessed with good health. I am ready at the ramparts to help defend the independence of our country as I have done all my life.
Vive le Canada!
(This photo is from an appearance by M. Chretien on The Agenda with Steve Paikin in 2018).
That is a fantastic rant! Best thing I’ve read on this forum in a long long time. Thank you for sharing! 👍
Chretien makes a great point too about the difference between opponents and enemies. We could use some of that clarity and implied respect in these political threads. It’s OK to have differences of opinion. It is good to explore them. But if you truly believe other people with different viewpoints are stupid and harbour ill intentions, you lack leadership, decency, and have “issues”.
Way to go Jean!
Chretien likes to use his fists in politics....
Maybe ask him to go south and grab Trump by the throat......
Maybe ask him to go south and grab Trump by the throat......
This was interesting too.
sprouht: "In your opinion, what makes a great leader? What are the qualities that someone has?"
JC: "To be honest. To be frank. To be knowledgeable. And to be hard working, and too do your best."
sprouht: "In your opinion, what makes a great leader? What are the qualities that someone has?"
JC: "To be honest. To be frank. To be knowledgeable. And to be hard working, and too do your best."
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