USA Political Thread 2024
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Repackaged promise from 2016 and 2020 that didn't come to past as it was not feasible. Cost , huge gap in the labour force , breaking families , etc
I am guessing you figured it out .... if he can show money gain no matter who pays the bill at the end including regular Americans he will do it . If the promise creates cost and the farmers' lobbies knock at his door as well the trades he will fold like he did during his first term.
well thats what we all hope for anyways...
Grassley: Trump’s new tariff threats are just ‘negotiating tool’ — for now
"Farm state Republican lawmakers like Grassley have been wary of how Trump’s threat for broad tariffs on the campaign trail could roil the U.S. agriculture sector again, just as American farmers are still recovering from Trump’s 2018 trade war against China.
Beijing slapped crippling retaliatory tariffs on U.S. farm products, which devastated farmers and rural communities, where Trump has strong electoral support. His administration used $28 billion in federal funding from the Agriculture Department to support farmers affected by his trade war."
HOW?
Let's say he has 100 illegals and he wants to get rid of them. How does he do it?
Fly them to Europe? No, they won't let them land the plane.
Drive them to the Canadas border? Ok now he's doing the same thing he complains about others doing.
The mechanics of the issue are what I want to know. What is the practical step by step process?
i'm not an expert but i don't think its all that difficult.
someone has a passport or ID from their country of origin, they get put on a flight to that country. when they get there its someone elses problem.
Most human traffickers take away people's passports and identity papers.
You mean when illegal immigrants arrive with everything needed for legal immigration, and just randomly decide to illegally hop the border instead?
Lol.
😂😂😂😂
And the Pretzel Logic award goes to...
Every time I think you've said the most ridiculous thing possible, you outdo yourself.
It does offer a certain level of entertainment though.
Keep going.
Start at the beginning.
Find and capture the murderers, rapists and various other criminals.
Deport them to their countries of origin, usually countries of the third world variety.
Obama did this, Biden did this, it's what American Presidents do.
It's part of their job.
There will be no "mass" deportations.
Their will be no "camps".
They will try to slow the flow of illegal immigrants. Stopping it completely is not possible.
Should these things be attempted?
Or should they just open the floodgates and hope for the best?
Will Trump be successful?
Time will tell.
Americans decided he was the best choice to deal with the issue.
No worries ! Im with you on that . Unless they can prove the birth place of someone you can not fly them anywhere. Those people have no documentation as they were discarded before entering the US . The country receiving a flight from the US with those people will deny them or the flight entry...unless the US does as the UK had agreed with Rwanda but unlikely with Central and South America . We'll see
no, they'll be like our Donny the Dunce, Justin the Turd
https://edmontonsun.com/news/nation...isas-to-voluntarily-leave-canada-in-next-year
magic, delusions of reality, they'll just leave, ahahaaa
5 MILLION, sure
No way he can get rid of everybody. They will probably concentrate on the criminal element first, like the Venezuelan gang members. Thats what Homan did under Obama. So the terminology is apprehensions, removals and returns. Removals are the actual deportations and he deported over 3 million during his reign as Obama's border czar so I guess he knows what to do. Its not his first rodeo.
In November 2014, President Obama announced a number of further changes in immigration enforcement, including agencywide policy guidance on which categories of removable noncitizens should be the highest priority for enforcement. Three levels were detailed:
- Priority 1: National security threats, noncitizens apprehended immediately at the border, gang members, and noncitizens convicted of felonies or aggravated felonies as defined in immigration law.
- Priority 2: Noncitizens convicted of three or more misdemeanors or one serious misdemeanor, those who entered or re-entered the United States unlawfully after January 1, 2014, and those who have significantly abused visa or visa waiver programs.
- Priority 3: Noncitizens subject to a final order of removal issued on or after January 1, 2014.
Table 2. Removals and Their Relationship to the 2014 Enforcement Priorities
Im showing you how the stats are calculated and are not a true representation of what the real story is from a well known left wing publication which would be on your reading list. There are huge holes in the data collected as per the changes made in the way the FBI reports crime in 2021. The fact is you cannot really know if crime really is up or down because a third of the countries counties now no longer report and there is a list of major American cities that do not report their date in this link.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/07/13/fbi-crime-rates-data-gap-nibrs
Americans believe that crime is up and with many soft on crime major cities prosecutors not trying to convict a large raft of crimes and turning felonies into misdemeanors that they are probably correct. And with the Defund the Police movement still affecting enrolment in police departments across the country many forces are short staffed, not responding to crimes and people have stopped bothering to report.
Let's just eliminate mental illness and poverty and the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION problem will be solved.
The solution was staring us in the face the whole time.
Thanks MRGREEN!
What Canada & Mexico have to do is demand the USA crack down on the export of guns from the US, on the grounds that they are bolstering criminal and extremist groups. Those cartels down there and gangsters up here didn't conjure all those US-made weapons out thin air. The US gun industry makes a lot of money on the side letting their "surplus" weapons slip over the borders to the black market here.
Today some Trump supporting US politicians was interviewed on TV where he thought the fentanyl precussors where coming into the US from. When told it was well known the chemicals were being imported legally (through port facilities etc.), his argument was basically "nuh-uh"; he seriously though that migrants were muling it over the border when they crossed, like toting big drums of chemicals on their backs or something.
The only correct move is to do neither.
Bunch of fucking hypocrites, just wanting to arrange it so other people have to obey the law but never themselves.
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