How are you voting in the upcoming provincial election?
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I want a change. The NDP continue to spend with little or no regard for where the money will come from, debt that will create additional interest expense. Plus they make promises which do not get fulfilled. But on the other hand the Conservatives appear to be too much the opposite, where is the happy medium? I don’t want anyone that is running to be in power, and I dread a minority with back room deals to further agendas.
I too, want a change and is ready to take a chance for the change in BC Conservatives. If it doesn't work 2 years down the road, at least I can say I tried and fulfilled my duty. Maybe we all have to start a People's Party with the spirit of Chuck Cadman. For those of you who forgot about him or know him.... here is the link.
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This and housing are the two biggest social issues of our time.
For those of you old enough to remember how the whole DTES shithole started in Vancouver, you have to go back to the 80s when the government of the day, the Social Credit party (which hijacked and became the provincial Liberals when they needed a rebrand because of their shitty record; which rebranded to The United Party because of the shitty BC Liberal record; which imploded and is now morphing into the BC Conservatives because of United incompetence - or incontinence - haha) closed down the Riverview Psychiatric Hospital in Coquitlam as a cost-cutting measure that was in-line with the Conservative mantra of the day (and today) that the private sector can do it better. Except they had some quarter-baked plan to outsource the care of thousands of the most traumatized and demanding psychiatric patients in the province to the “communities” without providing and resources. Well, if you have no money and no support you end up in the DTES self medicating on heroin and cocaine.
So that’s how the ghetto of the DTES got turbocharged, with thousands of mentally ill British Colombians let out on the street by the Social Credit (ne, BC Liberals, ne, BC Untied, ne, BC Conservatives). Not only was it a decision lacking in any compassion, but it was a financial disaster, costing hundreds of millions (if not billions)in policing costs, hospital emergency care, and well as an entire industry of poverty pimps.
The whole point of this rather long history regurgitation is that David Eby and the NDP announced last week that they are going to start forcibly confining repeat offenders and giving them psychiatric assessments; they are also actively looking at reopening Riverview or a similar facility to house the most extreme cases, for their own good and for the good of the community.
I’ve been saying for years now that some courageous leader/government needs to do just this. Say whatever else you want about Eby, but for him to commit to this course of action (I’m sure against the will of the bleeding-heart wing of the NDP) took some cahones.
He’s got my vote for this. It took a great deal of political courage to advance this policy. If you care about your community and want the civic spaces to become civic again then this is a major step toward that end.
And I also wish to keep my vote away from Rustad who, if he was in power during Covid, would have allowed the morgues to overflow because of his rather tenuous understanding of science.
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Disgruntled ? Why not say simply independent ?
I have listened to some of the conservative candidates and Rustad which would explain why some prefer to go independent instead of following the leader of the newly merged party . As their spoke people and leader come across as quite loopy at times or all over the place and having to back track on previous statements.
I'll vote BC Conservatives. Simply put I need my vote to count and it's too important this time around. I've seen the platform for the BC Conservatives and I like it. It goes against what my union would like us to vote but I can't vote for a party that has been absolutely compliant with the Federal Liberals. The BC NDP represent people like Bonnie Henry and Kevin Falcon. Ebby is supposed to be a constitutional rights person but does not show any inclination to protecting peoples rights. Their spending is putting this Province into massive debt. I know the history of the leadership of the BC Conservatives but their platform echo's the Federal Conservatives and I do have hope with Pierre Poilievre. If he practices what he preaches it seems like it would be a great partnership between the BC and Federal Conservatives.
I'll take the chance..
I'll take the chance..
Bang on. I could have written this myself except change small business to I'm in a union. If we are benefitting from a BC NDP it's not worth it, I'll take the chance.
I'd be curious how you think the BC NDP cares for the little guy? They have been the government for almost 6 years and I just don't see it in their actions or their results.
Because there are independent candidates who are running without any previous party affiliation.
I don't think anything is an easy fix. I blame the government before ndp for our current housing woes. Christy Clark sold us out for sure. I think VinVan, a few posts before mine, said things really clearly.
All over the world inflation has sky rocketed. All over Canada, rents are out of of control. Neither of those can be fixed provincially. People currently have no where to go so they camp on the streets. 15 years ago you could get a bachelor apartment on a welfare check. Now all those single room hotels are boutique hotels or back packing hostels. We are a mess. The biggest messes cant be fixed provincially. It has to be federal and unfortunately the NDP never gets voted in. just back and forth from liberals to conservatives back and forth forever lol.
Where do the parties stand on sex work? How many think your fav pass-time is sinful?
I personally think Singh can do a much better job this term with a minority government because he can force the Lib to compromise but I don't see anything out of him. Hence why I lost faith in the NDP. Now, if we could still have Layton !!! I don't trust Poilievre either but just the the BC election, I am willing to take a chance! This country has no true federal leader in the past 10 years ever since Paul Martin/Jean Chretien/Layton/Harper.
NDP allowed No Fault Insurance to become a thing at ICBC. Imagine being indoors at a grocery store shopping, a shitty driver storms through the walls of the store, causing you injuries, and then not being entitled to compensation, with subpar treatment options in a province with shitty health care. NDP has to go.
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I’m the first to say that no-fault insurance is not perfect, but The NDP had to do something with ICBC after the Socred-Liberal-United-Conservatives bankrupted the company. The Socred-Liberal-United-Conservatives were basically using ICBC as an ATM to pay for their other failed policies to the tune of an estimated billion dollars. There should have been an audit and folks should have gone to jail because against ICBC management’s financial modeling there was no way ICBC was going to survive with the way money was being taken out of the corporation. But that was part of the Socred-Liberal-United-Conservatives game plan as well: to game ICBC to fail so they could say that a public insurance model could not work and to have it privatized to their crony friends. If the NDP had not stepped in and implemented no-fault (saving the average driver $400 a year in premiums - which is pretty good policy in my books) everyone would be complaining about having the highest insurance premiums in Canada. The only ones complaining were the lawyers who were making off like bandits with all the litigation. And they were the ones with PR arm to highlight the few cases where people were complaining.
All the while tens of millions of dollars were being laundered through BC Lottery at their casinos as Chinese money was being brought to the casinos in suitcases full of $100 dollar bills being laundered to buy up properties sight unseen all over Greater Vancouver and driving up the cost of housing and rentals. Guess which party put an end to that shit-show that was running rampant under the Socred-Liberal-United-Conservatives regime? The NDP.
And guess which politician had the courage to make both of those calls? David Eby, himself a lawyer, who must have taken shit from pretty much every lawyer he went to law school with when he made those decisions that cost them millions in billable hours.
Listen, in case you’re thinking I’m a member of the NDP or a shill, I am not. I consider myself independent. I’ve voted NDP, Green and Liberal. The NDP are not perfect by a long shot, but having lived through the graft and incompetence of decades of Socred-Liberal-United-Conservatives rule, this version of the NDP are saints but comparison and the model of fiscal prudence.
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This could have been avoided if ICBC removed their own lawyers out of the equation and they offered more reasonable settlements with a shorter turn around time. I remember a case of mine where I was done treatment and it took over a year after treatment to get a settlement. I had my lawyer, they had their own, and it was back and forth, then this quiet period, before another offer. I ended up with $30K settlement in my pocket, after my took which his cut. This would have been fine at the start of when Iwas ready to settle. No need for icbc to have spent their tens of thousands on lawyers and no need for me to give up 1/3 of my settlement plus taxes. This is why icbc was overspending cause they spent more money trying to offer a lesser settlement than paying a reasonable amount at the start. Also, it a shitty driver is at fault, by all means increase his insurance and leave everyone else alone.
I’m sorry you had to go through that.
Like I said, it’s not perfect, but on balance, to quote Spock, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Again, if the Socred-Liberal-United-Conservatives had not used ICBC as a bank machine to pay for their other failed polcies, the balance sheet at ICBC would have been fine. But the Socred-Liberal-United-Conservatives moved $1 billion out of ICBC into general revenue to make it look like they were balancing the budget. They were not - it’s all part of the public record, you can look it up.
Ultimately when you have an unregulated private insurance system you end up with US health care, which spends 50% more of their GDP (19%) on health care as the next highest G7 country (Canada at 12%) with outcomes at the bottom of the G7 in terms of longevity, infant mortality etc etc. Sure the richest people get great health care in the US, but 25 million people still have no health coverage even with Obamacare. I would much rather pay higher taxes and know that my neighbors are being taken care of that live in a country I have a loved one die of cancer without treatment because of a pre-existing condition.
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Rusted said that children wil have to eat insect, nobody needs a vaccine, and BC is so small that we can have no effect on climate change , which actually doesn’t exist. Don’t take my word, Google it .. if you dare!
And these morons want my vote?
I think that as a Canadian in the middle class, having decent health care and dental should be a given.
Affordable housing, how do you lower it. Tax the people who made it increase in the first place (banks, house brokers, appraisers, house flippers etc). Housing is not affordable when you are paying the bank 2.5 - 3 times the purchase price of your house. No such thing as a long term mortgage at low rates since the early 70s. My solution all mortgage go to simple interest (for owners of their own household). For investing and renting out a house, you take a 2% compound loan out for entire loan. Banks can make money by lending to other businesses.
The big problem is the future when we all get older; and old care homes is your future.... Right now the "old folks home" is a shit deal, today expect to die from bad care and abuse to facilities that are understaffed and overworked. The future of "old folks homes" is very very bad. The home you are in today is not gonna be the home you die in...
Yes I agree society needs a strong safety net. But there are too many people ripping off the system set up. Not enough punishment/jail time for people that take advantage of less fortunate people. The strong should protect the weak.
The problem with government system is workers will be unionized and some unions have the laziest shit workers I've ever seen (asking them to work, its like pulling your nails out- painful each time, then they complain its harassment, when you are only asking them to do their fucken jobs). The private side is worse, they pay shit and demand extra hours and bad working conditions, that the end customers can actually see the bad results (especially in care homes).
The big problem is how do you stop someones greed for money....
The problem is the government already takes too much in taxes. Income tax (22% min), HST, PST (12% min on goods/services, anything you buy not food), property tax (approx 7-13.5%) misc tax on various items. (22+12+10=44%)
so a min of 44 % of your take home pay...taxes
Then your pay your mortgage.....??amount (up to 40% of your income (from Bank)).
Then you pay for food......
How much is left over?
Savings?
