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GentlemanJack69

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You sure like jumping to conclusions don't you ? You make what on the surface looks like a good argument, but damn you paddling down the wrong river.
I think you're mistaking deliberate steps leading to a logical conclusion with 'jumping" The argument looks good on the surface.. because it is good. If you've got a rebuttal that includes facts and logic I am happy to debate. Adding in metaphors and figurative expressions doesn't make your argument better without the facts and logic to back it up. I'm not worried about calling a spade a spade or paddling down wrong rivers.. I'm just calling it like I see it, with plain easy to follow logic.
 

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Better than the alternative.
Sometimes you can't pick the best, you have to pick the least bad.

Always amazing out of 350 million theses are the best candidates?
Same with Canada. There must be someone better than the bunch we have.

So you must be disappointed that she in fact is the best alternative to that senile, lying old grifter Trump.

yes, better, but still sucks, best of a bad pick

disappointed, no, she'll be less destructive

Trump needs to go, I've said before, so the Republicans finally get it he's toxic (just like Liberals have figured out about the Turd)

so they can get back to being normal right wing nuts, but acceptable, who you can talk to, but still disagree on saner policy differences

same thing needs to happen to the Dems, they need to flush the left wing zealots out too

the silent majority need to stand up and quit letting the

nuts suck all the O2 out of the room

just like here


but the truth is Harris was a DEI pick, plain and simple

no one expected her to get the nom, they expected Biden to quit after 1 or finish 2 terms and then have a real race

which she wouldn't have stood a chance, just like the first time she tried

the TruAnons, NDP Hamas loving POS need to be gone

Pierre isn't a right wing zealot, like Trump, he's a conservative, sure

Trudeau/Singh are the zealots, look at their policies, 10 yrs ago, no one would have thought it would get this bad

almost makes you yearn for Chretien and Layton, hell even Broadbent, Martin certainly
 

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The reality of the Great and Powerful Oz :

1. Kamala Harris is the offspring of two college professors, and they provided Kamala a prosperous childhood ensconced amidst the Ivory Towers of academia.

2. Harris’ mother comes from the Indian Brahmin caste, which sits atop India’s horrifically backward and oppressive caste system. Her father comes from a family of wealthy Jamaican slave plantation owners.

3. Kamala Harris’ father was an influential Marxist economist.

4. Harris spent her formative teen-age years living in Montreal. At no time in her formative years did Harris ever live what is customarily referred to as “The African-American Experience”; or, for that matter, the American working class experience. She ain’t ghetto, despite trying to play up her blackness.

5. Harris failed the California bar exam on her first attempt. The test she failed had a passing rate of 72.2% among first-time test takers.

6. She has a video record going back more than 20 years for being: open border, abolishing ICE, defunding the police, confiscating guns, banning fracking, abolishing private health insurance, chemical castration and physical mutilation of children.
 

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The reality of the Great and Powerful Oz :

1. Kamala Harris is the offspring of two college professors, and they provided Kamala a prosperous childhood ensconced amidst the Ivory Towers of academia.

2. Harris’ mother comes from the Indian Brahmin caste, which sits atop India’s horrifically backward and oppressive caste system. Her father comes from a family of wealthy Jamaican slave plantation owners.

3. Kamala Harris’ father was an influential Marxist economist.

4. Harris spent her formative teen-age years living in Montreal. At no time in her formative years did Harris ever live what is customarily referred to as “The African-American Experience”; or, for that matter, the American working class experience. She ain’t ghetto, despite trying to play up her blackness.

5. Harris failed the California bar exam on her first attempt. The test she failed had a passing rate of 72.2% among first-time test takers.

6. She has a video record going back more than 20 years for being: open border, abolishing ICE, defunding the police, confiscating guns, banning fracking, abolishing private health insurance, chemical castration and physical mutilation of children.
Now do Trump!
 

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but the truth is Harris was a DEI pick, plain and simple
Take a cue from "cock throppled" below.. he's got the correct format. Simply stating an opinion as "the truth" isn't going to cut it, you have to provide facts to back it up. Read "Cock Throppled" post. Well written, factual. Makes excellent points. Respect given.
 

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...the crack team of sleuths at White Coat Waste Project has uncovered many millions more dollars in previously unknown funding of Chinese labs by the NIH for the purpose of torturing puppies and other animals with no justifiable public health rationale whatsoever.

...independent media are the only ones in government who oppose pointless puppy torture using public American money funded to illicit and under-regulated Chinese labs just like the one in Wuhan that almost certainly leaked COVID-19 to the world and basically destroyed the global economy and the remnants of civil liberties in the West.

https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/nih-caught-funneling-millions-of

From Google: ...National Institutes of Health (NIH). NIH is one of the world's foremost medical research centers. An agency of the U.S. Department ...

Reminds me of an article I read prior to Syrian war. Americans contracted Syrians to interrogate prisoners.
 

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...the crack team of sleuths at White Coat Waste Project has uncovered many millions more dollars in previously unknown funding of Chinese labs by the NIH for the purpose of torturing puppies and other animals with no justifiable public health rationale whatsoever.

...independent media are the only ones in government who oppose pointless puppy torture using public American money funded to illicit and under-regulated Chinese labs just like the one in Wuhan that almost certainly leaked COVID-19 to the world and basically destroyed the global economy and the remnants of civil liberties in the West.

https://armageddonprose.substack.com/p/nih-caught-funneling-millions-of

From Google: ...National Institutes of Health (NIH). NIH is one of the world's foremost medical research centers. An agency of the U.S. Department ...

Reminds me of an article I read prior to Syrian war. Americans contracted Syrians to interrogate prisoners.
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You don't need to be invested in the market for it to be a good thing. Stocks are directly related to the success of companies, which hire people, drive the economy, and build national success. Doesn't mean things are great all around, but the markets are a good indicator that economic factors are getting better.

in it's basic, the stock market is nothing more than a gambling site

if it worked in theory, sure, but it doesn't, cause it's being manipulated, not to mention people are greedy


look at all the "new" constantly new ways they make up to add to it, to sell more of a company, yet there is only 100 in 100, lol

then the gov't comes in, does a little regulation to stop the greed, then they come up with something else to sell

Wall street makes money when you lose, when you make money

and there are examples of plenty of companies that aren't successful that have overvalued stocks

it's not a great indicator of real economic factors, at least not anymore
 

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in it's basic, the stock market is nothing more than a gambling site

if it worked in theory, sure, but it doesn't, cause it's being manipulated, not to mention people are greedy


look at all the "new" constantly new ways they make up to add to it, to sell more of a company, yet there is only 100 in 100, lol

then the gov't comes in, does a little regulation to stop the greed, then they come up with something else to sell

Wall street makes money when you lose, when you make money

and there are examples of plenty of companies that aren't successful that have overvalued stocks

it's not a great indicator of real economic factors, at least not anymore
If you are buying penny stocks or highly aggressive stocks then yes.. similar to gambling. If you are working with blue chip stocks, doing your homework, and investing intelligently the similarity to gambling is marginal at best.
Every system is subject to manipulation, deception and greed. Doesn't mean that the data isn't informative. The stock market is still a relevant indicator of economic factors. Individual stocks absolutely aren't supportive of overall economics but the stock market as a whole? Relatively reliable. I stand by my assertion.
 
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If you are buying penny stocks or highly aggressive stocks then yes.. similar to gambling. If you are working with blue chip stocks, doing your homework, and investing intelligently the similarity to gambling is marginal at best.
Every system is subject to manipulation, deception and greed. Doesn't mean that the data isn't informative. The stock market is still a relevant indicator of economic factors. Individual stocks absolutely aren't supportive of overall economics but the stock market as a whole? Relatively reliable. I stand by my assertion.

all info is useful, but using the stock market like the political class does, to pretend it's more relevant than it really is

that's the issue, there are far more basic, important stats to indicate how the economy is really doing

the majority of stocks are held by a few, even today, just like most wealth is in the hands of a few
 

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all info is useful, but using the stock market like the political class does, to pretend it's more relevant than it really is

that's the issue, there are far more basic, important stats to indicate how the economy is really doing

the majority of stocks are held by a few, even today, just like most wealth is in the hands of a few
In actual fact, many people's pension plans like the CPP, etc., are heavily involved in the stock market and so I would not say its performance is irrelevant.

Although I have had my own ups and downs with the market, I have definitely made good money at it. However it takes commitment and effort. Those of my relatives who 'played' the market never made money either in individual shares or much in the funds but given their level of effort it was predictable.

It is easy to criticize as irrelevant but both the Democrats and Republicans feel it is an important indicator.
 
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Vance did a great job tonight, cool and collective. If he debated Harris, she would have been whipped so bad the Dems would need another replacement.
 
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