How do you guys keep with this hobby

[SolidSnake]

My risk tolerance is getting lower, especially considering the stagflation. Don't really TOFTT anymore (previous efforts were mediocre at best, disappointing at worst.)

I should try reducing frequencies (already with help from a regular) and increasing quality. Ironically, I planned to ToFTT after my recent 411 thread received no Intel. Then it was taken down on request from the agency. (I had just used them a few weeks ago, not black listed.). This girl is advertised on LL but for some unfathomable reason, they want to keep her away from Perb (not advertised here with the rest of their girls.)

Why don't they just say "by invitation only" on their LL ad if they want to keep her from Perb's unwashed masses? It'll save everybody's time and bandwidth. Or are they trying to imitate Reach by reverse psychology to create mystique, going further than "DNR" and even stopping her name's appearance on Perb, not allowing the mention of a roster which they have no problem posting on LL?

 

[AMG-GTR]

Is average income about to go through the roof also or is there about to be an influx of lower mainland millionaires to support these drastic price increases?
Folks don’t book the Shangri-La when all they can afford is Motel 6

Average income is going to stay the same.

There will be the have nots and have yachts. Just wait, it’s going to get way worse.

Just look at how much prices have gone up with this hobby and groceries and a pile of other things. Shooting the messenger doesn’t help.

 

[Pgup]

Repeat provider. Only see who I can connect with. Keep it sporadic. One provider is good enough to satiate once in a while.

 

[verawang]

Just look at how much prices have gone up with this hobby

Compared to the price of housing, this hobby has barely gone up. I'm actually shocked. When I started in 2012ish the the Bella Luxes, Sasha Carmelle, Rebecca whatever her name was were already at 400+.

Nowadays, accounting for inflation, Nicole Vixen at $500 is a steal.

And so many good providers sub $350 still, it's WILD it hasn't gone up even more.

 

[stressless123]

My risk tolerance is getting lower, especially considering the stagflation. Don't really TOFTT anymore (previous efforts were mediocre at best, disappointing at worst.)

I should try reducing frequencies (already with help from a regular) and increasing quality. Ironically, I planned to ToFTT after my recent 411 thread received no Intel. Then it was taken down on request from the agency. (I had just used them a few weeks ago, not black listed.). This girl is advertised on LL but for some unfathomable reason, they want to keep her away from Perb (not advertised here with the rest of their girls.)

Why don't they just say "by invitation only" on their LL ad if they want to keep her from Perb's unwashed masses? It'll save everybody's time and bandwidth. Or are they trying to imitate Reach by reverse psychology to create mystique, going further than "DNR" and even stopping her name's appearance on Perb, not allowing the mention of a roster which they have no problem posting on LL?

I agree. I haven't TOFTT in a long time. I used to do this on leolist but now with amount of scams increasing and having bad experiences couple of times, I have totally stopped doing this. I am still grateful for people who do TOFTT and post their experiences here. I stick to agencies or providers who have been reviewed here or have legitimate presence on perb/twitter/tryst although this still requires doing your duediligince, reading reviews and vetting the provider you want to see.

For the past two months, I have only seen one girl. A fellow perb member introduced me to her and I am hooked. She doesn't advertise and is low key but is a total gem (sorry I can't share her details until I have checked with her if she wants me to). I have seen her almost every weekend and sometimes even 2-3 times per week usually for 2-3hrs at such. She is open minded, not a clock watcher and sex has been awesome so I keep going back. I had a wishlist of providers that I wanted to see this year but meeting this girl has made it harder for me to see others for now.

But to echo what others have said here.. I have definitely come to value quality over quantity. I prefer longer dates in general and have found myself to repeat with girls I like more rather than trying new ones.

 

[maniacalone]

Compared to the price of housing, this hobby has barely gone up. I'm actually shocked. When I started in 2012ish the the Bella Luxes, Sasha Carmelle, Rebecca whatever her name was were already at 400+.

Nowadays, accounting for inflation, Nicole Vixen at $500 is a steal.

And so many good providers sub $350 still, it's WILD it hasn't gone up even more.

It’s saturation. Onlyfans went through same thing. Early adopters become established and make the most. Those whom enter thereafter simply chisel away from other successful members.

Although the amount of men buying sex is on the rise, I am convinced it is surpassed by the amount of women selling sex these days and limits their ability to raise prices.

With no career alternatives and faced with rising lifestyle costs, women are stuck between a rock and hard place. Raise prices and aleniate regulars who may turn to lower priced alternatives or endure more visitors to make ends meet.

 

[Beasting]

It’s saturation. Onlyfans went through same thing. Early adopters become established and make the most. Those whom enter thereafter simply chisel away from other successful members.

Although the amount of men buying sex is on the rise, I am convinced it is surpassed by the amount of women selling sex these days and limits their ability to raise prices.

With no career alternatives and faced with rising lifestyle costs, women are stuck between a rock and hard place. Raise prices and aleniate regulars who may turn to lower priced alternatives or endure more visitors to make ends meet.

I follow the logic of this post more than amgs. If we're going to enter a recession. Wouldn't that bring more ladies into the market and hence keep prices stable or lower?
Just like your 10 year price example. It's not just the price that matters but what you get. The new JPs supply has been great for pooners as you get solid value for your 45 mins. They are the Toyota's/ Lexus of the industry. Not over the top but very reasonable and reliable.

Just a shame immigration does not allow Thai and Filipino providers into the country.

 

[white Ninja]

Even if everything changed for me tomorrow and I could only afford to poon 4 times per Yr, I would simply keep seeing my favourite 3 - 5 providers

 

[hoze]

Several factors could contribute to the rising cost of escorts in Vancouver :

Increased Demand: Higher demand for services can drive prices up. If more people seek escorts, providers may raise their rates to match the demand.

Cost of Living: Vancouver has the 2nd highest cost of living in North America which is having a BIG affect on the prices of services, including escorts. Providers may increase their rates to cover their living expenses and business costs.

Market Dynamics: The pricing structure for escorts is also influenced by market dynamics, including competition and the perceived value of services.

Specialization and Experience: Escorts with specialized skills or extensive experience may charge higher rates due to their expertise and reputation.

 

[Noob888]

My risk tolerance is getting lower, especially considering the stagflation. Don't really TOFTT anymore (previous efforts were mediocre at best, disappointing at worst.)

I should try reducing frequencies (already with help from a regular) and increasing quality. Ironically, I planned to ToFTT after my recent 411 thread received no Intel. Then it was taken down on request from the agency. (I had just used them a few weeks ago, not black listed.). This girl is advertised on LL but for some unfathomable reason, they want to keep her away from Perb (not advertised here with the rest of their girls.)

Why don't they just say "by invitation only" on their LL ad if they want to keep her from Perb's unwashed masses? It'll save everybody's time and bandwidth. Or are they trying to imitate Reach by reverse psychology to create mystique, going further than "DNR" and even stopping her name's appearance on Perb, not allowing the mention of a roster which they have no problem posting on LL?

It's greed and shrinkflation.
If you have X/Twitter and read some of the content from Vancouver Escorts, they claim to see only a few clients a day but command a high price tag. They post online when they're working. It's kind of a bat signal.

Within the last year, my jaw drops frequently seeing posts from newer members (some are probably old banned members or have changed their name) who either say price doesn't matter or have an incredibly high price point in what they're seeking. With these kinds of clients, the providers don't need to advertise much and I suspect they want to maintain their existing clientele, probably the whiteknights/simps.

As far as the lack of Intel, I suspect Perb isn’t the only game around. I feel there might be Indy non-commerical sites which are by invitation only. I have no proof, but it's just a feeling of mine.

 

[aoi.toori]

I follow the logic of this post more than amgs. If we're going to enter a recession. Wouldn't that bring more ladies into the market and hence keep prices stable or lower?
Just like your 10 year price example. It's not just the price that matters but what you get. The new JPs supply has been great for pooners as you get solid value for your 45 mins. They are the Toyota's/ Lexus of the industry. Not over the top but very reasonable and reliable.

Just a shame immigration does not allow Thai and Filipino providers into the country.

This makes more sense to me. Large influx of JP girls because the yen is weak so they make more here (conversely Japan is a popular tourist destination for the same reason). Seems like 2s is standard for 1hr and some offer what are usually extras as free. There's more competition so either stable prices or better value (extras included)?

 

[LADY-LYRAH]

Open Box specials

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[MikeyLikey99]

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I agree. I haven't TOFTT in a long time. I used to do this on leolist but now with amount of scams increasing and having bad experiences couple of times, I have totally stopped doing this. I am still grateful for people who do TOFTT and post their experiences here. I stick to agencies or providers who have been reviewed here or have legitimate presence on perb/twitter/tryst although this still requires doing your duediligince, reading reviews and vetting the provider you want to see.

For the past two months, I have only seen one girl. A fellow perb member introduced me to her and I am hooked. She doesn't advertise and is low key but is a total gem (sorry I can't share her details until I have checked with her if she wants me to). I have seen her almost every weekend and sometimes even 2-3 times per week usually for 2-3hrs at such. She is open minded, not a clock watcher and sex has been awesome so I keep going back. I had a wishlist of providers that I wanted to see this year but meeting this girl has made it harder for me to see others for now.

But to echo what others have said here.. I have definitely come to value quality over quantity. I prefer longer dates in general and have found myself to repeat with girls I like more rather than trying new ones.

With a post like this, your DM‘s are going to be blowing up 🤣🤣🤣

 

[JulBa]

So many experts here lmfao

 

[stressless123]

With a post like this, your DM‘s are going to be blowing up 🤣🤣🤣

Haha luckily not yet and I hope it stays that way 😅

 

[MB Mod]

So many experts here lmfao

Lots of experts on PERB

 

[oldshark]

Lots of experts on PERB

Actually I am a world wide expert on a couple of technical things but nothing to do with anything on PERB. In the realm of society, relationships, pooning, and anything to do with sex I am a mere amateur trying to learn a tiny bit so I can have more fun and less awkward moments!

 

[blondeluver]

I tried to stay with a couple regulars after TOFTT and confirming they click with me. If I see a lady that looks like a "must have" then I will TOFTT too! LOL.. But I let the big head make the decision though. It's like shopping...you ask yourself it that is a "need" or "want". Give it a hard thought... then go take a cold shower and if it is still a "need" then text her. If it calms down after the shower... then "another time". LOL..

 

[GentlemanJack69]

Gone are the days when I took a chance on an unknown. now I research on Perb, keep within my budget, and enjoy the ladies at Swan Lake. I figure, at some point I'll want to try out some of the pricier, well reviewed, escorts, but that would just mean reducing the frequency to once per month instead of twice. Until then, enjoy life as it cums.

 

[E.H.]

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