No you didn't.
The issue is you are suggesting these "shopping trips" are being funded by money sent by other countries to aid in their defense.
Stop the Ukrainian Meatgrinder?
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Trying to rewrite history?
The Death of a General: George S. Patton, Jr.
How Did Patton Die? Here’s A Summary Of The Events
The was the comment of the person that I copied the article from. Some people question Patton’s death.Trying to rewrite history?
The Death of a General: George S. Patton, Jr.
How Did Patton Die? Here’s A Summary Of The Events
I expressed doubt that the Bugatti story was true. Its well known that much of the money sent to Ukraine never makes it to the front lines. It was/is the most corrupt country in Europe. It does appear that much of the mainstream media is covering for the Zelensky's. Its not like this has not been done before.
1/The mainstream media has been running cover for Bidens dementia for several years now. They said dont believe your lying eyes. Biden is sharp as a tack. Now after the debate we all know the truth but his decline was well known to much of the public anyways who had been watching his decline for several years. and had it documented on social media. The press was all well aware of what his condition was and their expressed shock and surprise following the debate was an acting job.
2/For most of Bidens term the mainstream media minus Fox have been trying to cover up the fact that the US southern border is wide open. They only had to start changing their tune once the Texas, Arizona and Florida governors started to bus these illegals to the Hamptons and the sanctuary cities who had previously expressed their openness in accepting them. Then they had to pay attention but instead of opining that perhaps the border should be better controlled the media turned on the governors who were sending the illegals to the northern sanctuary cities.
3/For most of the years under covid the mainstream media tried to cover up the origins of the virus stating it had come from a wet market in Wuhan not because there was a lab there partially funded by the US government testing gain of function research on viruses. They shut down any attempt to openly discuss the subject for over a year and once the immediate threat ended we discovered that they were trying to hide the truth.
4/Hunter Bidens laptop was claimed to be "Russian misinformation" just before the 2020 elections and all discussion of it was censored on social media of the possibility of it being otherwise. Once the election was over they admitted that it was true but the objective had worked. Polls following the elections showed that had the story not been censored and denied that Trump may well have recaptured the White House for a second term. The difference was a few hundred thousand votes scattered over 6 states.
These are just a few of the issues but important ones. I believe that the Zelenskys are very corrupt and the media is covering it up...because he's supposedly our guy.
So forgive me if I dont take whatever the legacy media tells me as the gospel truth. In all these cases independent news sources had outed these stories long before the mainstream media finally had to get around to admitting them so I always take these fact checker denials with a grain of salt and adopt a wait and see attitude. I believe this war has made the Zelenskys very wealthy and time will reveal the extent.
Stalin starved 16 million of his own people….the Ukraine was a cannibals wet dream.
“I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian have no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”
Some of General Patton’s thoughts on the Russians.
Some of General Patton’s thoughts on the Russians.
Source?
Unless you're making the executive decision to remove Russia from Europe I'd say your a bit off. For example: How do you become a Billionaire oligarch in a communist county? Corruption would be a requirement. Practically mandatory. I'd suggest a healthy relationship with the Russian Mafia would be in order as well.
Is there corruption in Ukraine? Hell, yes. It's even present here in good ol' squeaky clean Canada. (hint: it's pretty much everywhere)
As for the rest of your unrelated, disjointed diatribe:
Please step away from the echo chamber.
Turn off your computer.
Go for a walk outside and see the real world.
Sometimes you have to take a pause....and consider. Putin already said he would use them.
Putin threats: How many nuclear weapons does Russia have? (bbc.com)
I was reading the other day, Russia is refurbishing it fleet of Soviet era Blackjack bombers with hypersonic nuclear missiles. That would be a first strike platform, not a defensive system.
The number of
The war has always been NATO versus Russia, go back all the way to 2014, 2008, or even earlier, if you wish. Nothing sudden about it, nothing unprecedented or unpredictable about it.
Amazing the see people here duck and deny the deeper reasons why, with all the chances to avoid it that were thrown away, and the strategies which guaranteed the ruin of European security (and who really benefits from that). Then the powers that be point to their results of their many years of leading the involved nations to this disaster, and use it to justify them leading still, with even greater powers and even less dissent.
Sure, it is real bloodshed, real death, and real danger of worse catastrophes to come, but aside from that obvious point, the whole thing reeks of deception & treachery. The bitterness from the war will carry on for generations, even in a best case scenario.
Meat grinder is right - all our leaders do is turn the handle.
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"The war has always been NATO versus Russia, go back all the way to 2014, 2008, or even earlier, if you wish. Nothing sudden about it, nothing unprecedented or unpredictable about it."
Well, it that's the case. Russia never had anything to worry about. Because NATO is getting the shit kicked out of them by the looks of it.
i'm sure you are correct. and the leash that Ukraine has been on has been calculated to make this last as long as necessary to bring the Russian economy to its knees...
but taking a side is easy... Ukraine, with all of its resources as part of the western economies? or bigger yachts for oligarchs? fuck the Russian ruling class! if they lose this the whole thing may implode and Russia will join NATO as well! next!
You know how many years, post-cold war years, they complained bitterly that the US was developing the same, and worse, putting weaponry into space? yes, first-strike weapons.
Dubya came to power in 2001 and right off the bat, revoked every treaty that covered first-strike weapons, missile defense systems, and also new nuclear biological and chemical weapons development.
Putin, being a guy who came out of the national security services, knows exactly what sort of message that sends, and is not one to let the other side build up the kind of advantages that could one day lead to an unanswerable first strike on Russia. Mutually assured destruction must remain mutual or else one side becomes too tempted to actually use such weapons.
By the way, the Chinese see it too, which means they are trying to add such capabilities too - starting from further back, but rushing to catch up.
Problem with that is that the Russian economy is doing great. Better since they invaded. Germany is supplying them with all they need. India is guzzling up all their oil. Problem? No problem.
Fuck anyone's ruling class, to be honest. The rich are the rich, and wherever you go, they have more in common with the rich from other nations than they do with the lower-downs of their own people.
As for Russia joining NATO, when the Cold War was over, some in the 1990's had proposed that Russia could join it, imagining a single military alliance all the way across the north of the world.
It never happened, or course, because one thing about NATO is that Washington exercises too much control for it to allow someone like Russia in, and Russia would not want to accept that level of control. (Multi-polar world order was okay, not unipolar.)
Russia (and Putin's actions do indicate this), I think then switched to the hope that they could become stronger allies with the European powers, like Germany, that were in their own way keen to create a military alliance for the EU which did not involve the Americans.
Even if Russia's regime and the EU never entered into any formal agreement, if the EU could learn to push the US out of their own decision making, and/or counternalance their need for military strength (and energy resources) by turnbing to Russia, Russia cpuld then boost its own stature and economy, and both of them could better guard against threats from their southern frontier (a.k.a. aggressive Islamic powers).
Picture something like an alliance of European nations, minus the US and maybe minus Turkey too, but plus Russia. Result? Peace across the north of Eurasia, all the way from Iceland to eastern Siberia.
What power would that sort of alliance deprive of influence, military presence, and wealth? Well, primarily, the USA.
And now you can see why the US would rather have a war in Europe to justify NATO's continued existence, than ever see Russia and Europe firmly on the same side. Did US leaders consciously push events towards conflict? Well, given all the evidence, it is hard to believe Washington blundered into an unnecessary war with completely innocent intentions that were just misunderstood.
Long ago, a British commenter made the observation that NATO's purpose was to "keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down", and it would seem that the Cold War being over did not change that one bit.
"Long ago, a British commenter made the observation that NATO's purpose was to "keep the Americans in, the Russians out, and the Germans down", and it would seem that the Cold War being over did not change that one bit."
And how's that all working out?
