USA Political Thread 2024
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Right..mr." i didnt sleep with the porn actress" is less of a bs artist.
The problem is the short attention span people have nowadays, and the habit of ALL media of showing five second clips of speeches out of context.
Politicians rarely answer questions directly, they focus on getting a zinger one liner into tonight’s news show. Any publicity is good publicity - getting their face on tv is a win.
Now we have a negative politics situation:
People are going to vote for Biden because they hate Trump
People are going to vote for Trump because they hate Biden
As pathetic as the debate was I doubt it will change many voter’s minds.
Biden honest?
He had to drop out of the 1998 presidential election because he stole, almost verbatim, a speech from Britsh politician Neil Kinock.
He sponsored a crime bill that was responsible for imprisoning more black men than any other legislation.
He lied about job creation and jobs for blacks. They were both higher under Trump until Covid, and the jobs Biden "created" are mostly recovered jobs.
He lied about the border, and being able to do anything about it, until he suddenly made an executive order a few weeks ago. Numbers of illegal migrants surged for three years under Biden, and have only come down within the last month.
He lied about no American military personnel being killed under his watch. Deaths in Jordan and Afghanistan during the disastrous pull-out. Biden didn't hold one high-ranking general accountable for the blunders that cost American lives, Afghani lives and billions in weaponry that fell into Taliban hands.
He lied about Covid numbers. More people died under Biden, than Trump, despite Biden's more severe restrictions on people's rights, and Trump not having vaccines available until the last month of his presidency.
He lied about the "losers and suckers" comment attributed to Trump that was denied by every person with Trump that day. He also lied abut why Trump didn't attend the services that day.
He lied about political violence. There were more deaths and destruction by left-wing rioters than anything comparable by right wing acts.
He lied about Trump being convicted of "raping a woman in public". There has been no such charge, let alone conviction.
He lied about his son's laptop, claiming for over a year, it was Russian disinformation, while he knew all along it was his son's.
He lied about weaponizing government to go after political opponents. Trump could have stayed out of politics and continued with his very comfortable life. Democrat prosecutors and politicians have led the charge to go after anything they can against anyone associated with Trump. When a loon like E Jean Carroll can command a $700 million fine against Trump, it is obviously political. The reason these judgements haven't hurt Trump politically like the Democrats had hoped, is because people can see the charges for what they are - Poltical interference, and banana republic tactics.
...and how is that BS ? From everything out there, Stormy got to play with Trump's mushroom....nobody says whether or not he got his cap off...and she left. Nobody ever said there as any sleeping going on.
Are you sure you want to make the litteralist argument? It might bite back. I mean, i guess technicaly he didnt actually 'sleep' either , so he's not lying right? If that is your requirement then ive got some bridges to sell you.
I believe all these are Orange turd's narrative. They aren't substantiated by facts. For example, Isn't it the $700M is from the Letisia James business civil fraud case in NYC? I believe in E Jean Carroll case, she was awarded $85M from the first defamation case and subsequently the second case. It was never a $700M case. You are getting your facts wrong. With regards the laptop, the republican control congress, didn't find anything from it except some naked pix of Hunter which MTG paraded in congress, otherwise it would have been all over and JB would have been impeached like orange turd. 🤣 I really don't know where you are getting your facts. Who said Orange turd was indicted and convicted of rape?? Where did that come from? It was a conservative judge interpretation that orange turd sexually assaulted e jean carol in the first defamation case. I don't recall JB saying that. Honestly, you should fact check yourself first bcoz all you're saying here are all orange turd lies. Don't be his instrument of disinformation. Look, Even the covid deaths thing is a wrong. Even orange turd couldn't say that bcoz numbers and dates don't lie.. 😂 I don't have the patience to fact check all the stuff you're saying here. Do it yourself and please keep an open mind. And remember, all these unfavourable talks about orange turd came from his own people. None, zero came from his political opponents or from the left. 40 of his people (inner circle) including his own vice president refuse to indorse him. All J6 commission witnesses are his people. Even his own lawyer in the doc case, Evan Corcoran testified under oath that orange turd instructed him to lie. These are factually recorded. Come on man! I am not a fan of JB or am I in the left but when facts are twisted, I just can't let it go without commenting.
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But you were the one defending him not me.. that's why I'm asking you innocently if you think he was a better person than JB. If you did say He is better than JB, I would have not ask you that question. Look, the reason why I'm still engage in this topic is bcoz I truly and honestly want to understand why people still defend him in spite of all the negativity of what he has done as a businessman and a politicians. Maybe I am missing something and want to be enlightened. Perhaps I am wrong. Btw all these stories about him came from his inner circle, people in his on cabinet, his closest allies, his lawyers, his own staff, factually recorded under oath or in videos. His own chief financial officer is in jail right now after admitting that he lied. 🤦♂️ These can not be denied. And to imply that I'm a left wing lunatic is uncalled for and unacceptable. Most of us here, probably don't know each other personally. I will never insult anybody here just bcoz I don't agree with him much less call them or imply that they are lunatics. Doing so only speaks of one's inability to defend what is indefensible.
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As one commentator said, JB lost this debate, but orange turd didn't win either.
Not facts? Get your head out of your ass. Did Biden have to drop out for stealing a speech, or not? That's your "honest" man? Joe knew the laptop was Hunter's, no matter what anyone else said, and he lied about it. You're picking what you want, and ignoring everything else. I also forgot Biden claimed the border patrol endorsed him. They didn't, and quickly made that known. He also lied for years about Russian collusion. The border didn't have a surge of illegal migrants under Biden? Inflation didn't surge under Biden? More people didn't die of Covid under Biden's term? Soldiers didn't die under his watch? He didn't sponsor the crime bill that jailed primarily black men? Trump didn't have record black employment? He didn't call Trump a rapist? All the DA's prosecuting Trump aren't Democrats? Antifa and BLM riots didn't cause more damage and deaths than any right wing violence? My gawd, you not only have drunk the Kool Aid, it might be your only diet.
Isn't Orange turd indicted by a grand jury of his peers? Just like Hunter convicted by a jury of his peers? It doesn't matter who the prosecutors are, isn't it? If the facts aren't there, then nothing to worry. End of story. They should present evidence if JB committed any crimes and let a grand jury decide and we should respect the outcome. Isn't that the right way? Btw, I am just curious. During BLM or Antifa riots, isn't it this happen during orange turd watch? His Justice department should have brought cases against these people. Crimes were commit? Then, yes. They should be persecuted. Otherwise there is a miscarriage of justice.
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Get my head out of my ass??? Seriously?😂 I don't understand what you mean. Sorry, perhaps I was brought up not learning how to use those kind of phrases. English unfortunately isn't my first language. And yes you are right. I m only "picking those that I want" bcoz those are the one that I don not agree with and I can factually defend my views. The other stuff, I honestly don't have any idea if they are correct or not. Perhaps I agree with you. 🤷
BLM and Antifa rioters were enabled by soft on crime DA's and politicians in Democrat controlled cities and states.
Nothing to do with the Federal Department of Justice.
I'm always happy to correct you, but it’s a lot of work.
Well don't say they aren't substantiated by facts then if you never even looked to see if they were. Typical Democrat supporter.
So this is supposed to be a state crime and not federal? Interesting. For a while I thought all this time it wasn't prosecuted by his justice department bcoz of politics. I was thinking they would lose black votes if BLM people were indicted. Yes, these people should have been prosecuted. I believe there was a crime there. This only gives the opposing side the right to say that there isn't an equal of justice. Having said that, it still doesn't negate that crimes were committed by orange turd. Thanks for being candid.
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Oops! My bad. I should have asked if they were substantiated by facts or not. Coz most of those talking points are Orange turd’s. And he is just such a lier to be believed. But those other stuff I mentioned are in my mind false, inaccurate and unsubstantiated.
… just a point of clarification. In the hush money trial, manhattan da presented documentary evidences and at least 20 witnesses all made up of orange turd’s own people. One was even his best friend. 🤦♂️ And defense only has one witness. We all know how that turned out. So for orange turd to say it’s a witch hunt and politically motivated is absolutely ridiculous and absurd. I believe he should serve time for all these 34 felonies. If he only gets a slap on the wrist, then the justice system in America is a fuck up.
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Nice way to justify your lazy debate tactics. In your mind they are. In actual fact they are not. But here are some lies that ARE substantiated from CNN fact checks on what Biden said during the debate. Remember he went into seclusion and studied and was prepped for 7 full days before this debate so there is no excuse for getting anything wrong. The guy in this interview, Harry Scissons is a paid Democrat Gen Z Tik Tok shill who speaks the same talking points that you do. You must be a big fan. And the ones they show are just a part of the lies Biden told in this debate. They didnt even include his worst lie...that he had a 6 handicap!
The CNN fact checking list shows up just before the 4 minute mark and they only show part of it...but its enough.
So if Trump gets reelected, I think the first thing he will do is offer arms to help the Russians out, and cancel any deals made with Ukraine. Bad news for Ukraine, and even worse news for Europe in general. Why most of the Eastern Block countries suffered under the Russian Thumb of the KGB. They do not want to be there ever again.
The USA has a history of fighting for democracy in the world (ok its acted as the world's policeman to ensure US trade around the world). The election of Trump will reverse this US policy. Ukraine without support from the US will stumble, and the rest of the eastern block countries will follow suit.
Trump could pull the US out of NATO, leaving Europe in a bag of shit, when it comes to Russia.
The USA has a history of fighting for democracy in the world (ok its acted as the world's policeman to ensure US trade around the world). The election of Trump will reverse this US policy. Ukraine without support from the US will stumble, and the rest of the eastern block countries will follow suit.
Trump could pull the US out of NATO, leaving Europe in a bag of shit, when it comes to Russia.
Ok? It’s a YouTube video. Where is the cnn you said substantiated this? Btw, I don’t know who these people are except perhaps Pier. So I can’t be a big fan.
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