Slow Time of Day, Week, and Month for SPs and Mps?

[I_Like_MPs]

What are others experiences with SPs and MPs offering reduced rates for slow times of the day, week, or month?

I have found that morning to mid-afternoon, early in the week, and the end of the month seems to be better times to see an SP or MP in respects to getting a reduction in the rate or donation.

I am self employed so have some flexibility with my schedule.

 

[angry anderson]

Look for the "cold day in hell" specials.

 

[TerrR]

As a self employed individual, my favorite customers are the ones who prefer to pay me at the lowest end of the price scale. The quality of my work improves so much when my customers take advantage of weak points in the economy to pay me less for the same high quality work. Nothing says respect like under paying for services rendered. I can always find different ways to pay my bills.

 

[SuggestiveTitle]

As a self employed individual, my favorite customers are the ones who prefer to pay me at the lowest end of the price scale. The quality of my work improves so much when my customers take advantage of weak points in the economy to pay me less for the same high quality work. Nothing says respect like under paying for services rendered. I can always find different ways to pay my bills.

You were probably overcharging anyways, and you can't put a price on the peace of mind that comes from being corrected by the market. Added bonus: any downward price adjustment typically results in oversized tips and a boost in your reputation potentially drawing more clients with similar price orientations.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

I guess some people are just built too low to the ground, the fast ones go right over their heads.

 

[RedDragon64]

I think it's a great idea. It puts some providers who are above my normal price limit into an affordable range.

For example Classy Angel offers a significant discount if you see her on weekdays. Her "normal" price is above my budget limit, but I was able to see her within my budget by visiting on a weekday.

 

[RedDragon64]

As a self employed individual, my favorite customers are the ones who prefer to pay me at the lowest end of the price scale. The quality of my work improves so much when my customers take advantage of weak points in the economy to pay me less for the same high quality work. Nothing says respect like under paying for services rendered. I can always find different ways to pay my bills.

That's an odd take considering the context of OPs question.

You appear to be saying that if you offered discount rates for certain days/times (or for whatever reason), then you would disrespect the clients booking you because they are cheap charlies.

 

[SuggestiveTitle]

That's an odd take considering the context of OPs question.

You appear to be saying that if you offered discount rates for certain days/times (or for whatever reason), then you would disrespect the clients booking you because they are cheap charlies.

The sarcasm should have been obvious in both of our comments. If the provider offers it that's one thing, but negotiation and lowballing in any form is unclassy and always gets a frown.

 

[RedDragon64]

The sarcasm should have been obvious in both of our comments

Oops, missed the sarcasm. I'm usually not that obtuse.

 

[kelcaine]

What are others experiences with SPs and MPs offering reduced rates for slow times of the day, week, or month?

I have found that morning to mid-afternoon, early in the week, and the end of the month seems to be better times to see an SP or MP in respects to getting a reduction in the rate or donation.

I am self employed so have some flexibility with my schedule.

It is the providers decision if they wish to offer a discount sometimes. Yes some of us do if if a slow period. Slow days happen with every swift employed job I have and now do. But as mentioned above DO NOT ask for a discount. It’s really disrespectful, because with most other businesses you would not ask them for a discount on their services. Much of the time this will get you blocked.

 

[luvsdaty]

It is the providers decision if they wish to offer a discount sometimes. Yes some of us do if if a slow period. Slow days happen with every swift employed job I have and now do. But as mentioned above DO NOT ask for a discount. It’s really disrespectful, because with most other businesses you would not ask them for a discount on their services. Much of the time this will get you blocked.

Not necessarily true,often people ask"whats the best you can do?"

 

[Banged_Up]

Not necessarily true,often people ask"whats the best you can do?"

The barter system exists in many areas of society. I built something for a sex worker, we negotiated a price. That was fine. I walked away from the transaction ahead but I still scratch my head when her web site says “no negotiation on pricing”.
Hasn’t it always been that if it’s cash it’s negotiable?

 

[SuggestiveTitle]

A sex worker walks up to a guy on the street and says; 'Hey handsome, want a date?" He replies; 'That depends. How much?' She says; '$200 for the ride of your life.' He says; 'Oh, I don't have that much.' She says; 'Well, for $100 I could give you a blowjob that you'd still be thinking about on your deathbed.' He says; 'Argh, that's kinda steep.. what can you give me for 20 bucks?' She says; 'For 20 bucks I could give you 'the Penguin'.' Intrigued, the man agrees and they duck into an alley and he digs into his pocket and produces a $20 bill. She takes it and says; 'Ok now drop your pants.' He immediately complies. Bare assed with his pants around his ankles, she walks away. Ankles bound, he starts hobbling and shuffling.. shouting.. 'Wait! what the fuck? Where you going?"

 

[kelcaine]

The barter system exists in many areas of society. I built something for a sex worker, we negotiated a price. That was fine. I walked away from the transaction ahead but I still scratch my head when her web site says “no negotiation on pricing”.
Hasn’t it always been that if it’s cash it’s negotiable?

Yes, the barter system exists in many areas of society, and in North America quite often. This is often when someone is selling used items. But the barter system doesn’t work in regards to your salary most of the time, or set prices/rates for small businesses. Sex work is a business. For us, legit and reputable providers, we invest a lot of money into our business and we run it as a business because it is a business.

If you walked into a store to buy some clothing and ask them for a discount, they’re not going to give it to you. Same if you were to go get something to eat at the restaurant, you’re not going to ask them to give you a discount for your food. If you can’t afford it, you find a different restaurant.

It’s very insulting for people to ask us for discounts and a lot of the time it will get you blocked. Would you do your job at a lower rate or discount if someone asked you? Unlikely.

 

[Banged_Up]

Part of the problem, with the utmost respect, is the societal acceptance of someone’s statement as the “truth” because they say it is so.
You say “For us, legit and reputable providers”. First I would not suggest you are anything less than reputable, you are reputable for certain.
Legit? That is where the debatable part comes in. Do you have a business license? Is ALL of your income declared and taxed? Do you pay into the required social entities (worksafebc, CPP, etc?)
I don’t care if you do or don’t, the point being is that while you may believe you are “legit” you very likely operate in what is referred to as the black market. In the black market most of if not all goods and services are negotiable.
Next, I spend a boatload of money on my business. Every company I have worked for or person I have done a job for has wanted the lowest price possible. It is part of business.
I go into certain businesses expecting a personal discount based on the fact that I do enough professional business with them that I deserve a trim off the top when it comes to stuff for me, and I get it.
I come from back east, of Italian heritage. I don’t pay retail for “nice clothes”. I wouldn’t buy a suit from Moores if I had to, I would buy a suit from a reputable tailor, not pay sticker price and walk away with a far superior product. I have 3 Italian hand crafted suits and did not pay retail for any of them, same with my favourite leather jacket.
And restaurants? The black market is the foundation of the restaurant business. There are 3 that I frequent that I either don’t pay at all, ever, or my bill is seriously discounted based on services I’ve provided in the past or continue to provide. Without the suggestion of a set payment. People appreciate my generosity and it is returned.
I’m flexible in my “rates” because I can be, where and when I want to be. A single mom needs some work done on her car? Bring it by the shop on Saturday and we’ll see what we can do. New young person starting a business and doesn’t have a machine that I do? Go ahead, come by and use it, kick me some coin and call it even. What goes around comes around. If I can help someone I will.
As I mentioned I have built things, for sex workers at absolute cost, where my labour was completely gratis. Thats skill, labour and knowledge. That I paid for with blood, sweat and tears.
So while the nature of your reply is understood it is not completely correct.
I don’t ask for discounts from sex workers, ever. It has been made abundantly clear that it isn’t welcome so I respect that. That being said, there are newbies that haven’t had the “it’s insulting” position jammed down their throat or people from other countries where negotiations are common if not entirely encouraged. If someone is dumb enough to try to negotiate where it isn’t welcome they deserve bad service if at all.
The fact is that this business is neither entirely legal or legit so therefore it is the black market, or even grey market if you prefer to argue legalities. This means that nothing is set in stone and most people should be forgiven for thinking that negotiations are appropriate. “How much if I pay cash?” is a welcome question from many businesses that I do business with. Some I wouldn’t do business with if not for that option.

 

[wincity23]

Part of the problem, with the utmost respect, is the societal acceptance of someone’s statement as the “truth” because they say it is so.
You say “For us, legit and reputable providers”. First I would not suggest you are anything less than reputable, you are reputable for certain.
Legit? That is where the debatable part comes in. Do you have a business license? Is ALL of your income declared and taxed? Do you pay into the required social entities (worksafebc, CPP, etc?)
I don’t care if you do or don’t, the point being is that while you may believe you are “legit” you very likely operate in what is referred to as the black market. In the black market most of if not all goods and services are negotiable.
Next, I spend a boatload of money on my business. Every company I have worked for or person I have done a job for has wanted the lowest price possible. It is part of business.
I go into certain businesses expecting a personal discount based on the fact that I do enough professional business with them that I deserve a trim off the top when it comes to stuff for me, and I get it.
I come from back east, of Italian heritage. I don’t pay retail for “nice clothes”. I wouldn’t buy a suit from Moores if I had to, I would buy a suit from a reputable tailor, not pay sticker price and walk away with a far superior product. I have 3 Italian hand crafted suits and did not pay retail for any of them, same with my favourite leather jacket.
And restaurants? The black market is the foundation of the restaurant business. There are 3 that I frequent that I either don’t pay at all, ever, or my bill is seriously discounted based on services I’ve provided in the past or continue to provide. Without the suggestion of a set payment. People appreciate my generosity and it is returned.
I’m flexible in my “rates” because I can be, where and when I want to be. A single mom needs some work done on her car? Bring it by the shop on Saturday and we’ll see what we can do. New young person starting a business and doesn’t have a machine that I do? Go ahead, come by and use it, kick me some coin and call it even. What goes around comes around. If I can help someone I will.
As I mentioned I have built things, for sex workers at absolute cost, where my labour was completely gratis. Thats skill, labour and knowledge. That I paid for with blood, sweat and tears.
So while the nature of your reply is understood it is not completely correct.
I don’t ask for discounts from sex workers, ever. It has been made abundantly clear that it isn’t welcome so I respect that. That being said, there are newbies that haven’t had the “it’s insulting” position jammed down their throat or people from other countries where negotiations are common if not entirely encouraged. If someone is dumb enough to try to negotiate where it isn’t welcome they deserve bad service if at all.
The fact is that this business is neither entirely legal or legit so therefore it is the black market, or even grey market if you prefer to argue legalities. This means that nothing is set in stone and most people should be forgiven for thinking that negotiations are appropriate. “How much if I pay cash?” is a welcome question from many businesses that I do business with. Some I wouldn’t do business with if not for that option.

I would question legit being defined as declaring income or the other things you mentioned. I don't know a lot of businesses that declare all their income. I've come across many more that have done so many things that are not by the letter, yet i would still refer to them as legit. Your point on cash jobs is spot on-i have never, will never pay someone cash at a retail price outside the SW industry. I will barter and get the price i feel is fair or move on to someone else who will. Again, outside this industry. Most ads or websites i've viewed for SW, stated no negotiations so ignorance on this subject is ridiculous, despite someone's experience. I knew better than to do that my first time based on basic reading.

 

[jgg]

I don't know a lot of businesses that declare all their income.

I always declare all income. I will get creative on expenses. CRA gets really pissed when you attempt to hide income. With expenses, they just rule them out.

 

[wincity23]

I always declare all income. I will get creative on expenses. CRA gets really pissed when you attempt to hide income. With expenses, they just rule them out.

Fair enough. I should have clarified, i meant to say businesses that may sometimes (or often) deal in cash.