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Defund the CBC?

milemiles

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One of the ideas about government is that we all pay for things we don’t all use. I have no kids but I still believe in paying for schools for example.

I have all kinds of issues with the CBC but I don’t believe it should be defunded. I watch and listen most days. For some folks in remote areas it’s their only source of news and entertainment.
 
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carvesg

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Yep let's cut everything : all grants , subsidies, guarantee loans , capital gain exemptions, incentives and regulations . So that nobody gets offended or disappointed in the government ; and so that no remote areas that provide us with minerals, metals , power, fisheries, precious metals, diamonds , forestry products , oil and gas get any information from public networks or any services for that matter since it could trigger favoritism.

Certain statements reminds me that city Slickers have rarely travelled out of range of cities , big centers or along cell covered highways where internet access is everywhere to end up where you get no signals but short wave radio/ AM radio if lucky or satellite connection (0.99$ to $11.99 a minute) .

Private networks never reached thousands of areas in our country because there was no profit for them but CBC was mandated to cover them to inform people and still do to this day .
 
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Most people do not realize that the CBC has had a mandate to cover 98% of the population of Canada. This is in 2 official languages, TV and radio. This includes places like Inuvik, Iquiluit, even Snare Lake (pop 90) 200 miles North of Yellowknife. The only private radio station in all of the NWT is in Yellowknife. CBC North Based out of Yellowknife Broadcasts both Radio and TV News in 8 different languages to all the communities of the NWT.

If it wasn't for the CBC we would have lost so many more actors and musicians to the south. Also how do you think Hollywood North came about. Crews that learned the craft at the CBC. It is a shame what the conservative Party wants to do to the CBC and our Postal service.
 

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Unfortunately the CBC started reducing their sales force years ago to the point of leaving only one sales person at most in some major markets. If you can’t sell advertising time then it is like cutting the head off, no sales force, no revenue. The CBC is like BC Ferries, totally mismanaged.
 
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One of the ideas about government is that we all pay for things we don’t all use. I have no kids but I still believe in paying for schools for example.

I have all kinds of issues with the CBC but I don’t believe it should be defunded. I watch and listen most days. For some folks in remote areas it’s their only source of news and entertainment.
100%

The Faustian bargain about living in a democracy is that not everyone gets what they want so we all can get what we need.

Every time I hear someone squawk about how much they pay in taxes I will observe, without fail, that I don’t mind paying taxes at all because it buys me civilization; it pays for schools, roads, hospitals, firefighters, police, health inspectors, the CSA, the armed forces, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Fisheries, and yes, the CBC.

Are tax dollars spent as efficiently as I would like? Nope. Are they spent on things I’d rather not support? Absolutely. But that’s the great thing about a democracy - if I want to get off my ass and make change there are a myriad of ways in which to do it.
 

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I think it would be a bad move to defund CBC. All this defund x or y is rarely ever thoroughly thought out to get the whole picture.

Islander1-1 nailed it with the entire country gets CBC coverage. I worked for a decade in Northern BC and Alberta where the CBC was the only channel worth watching and in some places it’s the only game in town.

Fifth Estate has been running for decades and now I’m downloading episodes to watch later. They will broadcast some topics other broadcasters wouldn’t touch.

Wasn’t Schitt’s Creek a CBC developed series? That show has huge ratings.Catherine O’hara plays Emily Blunts slutty mom in Pain Hustlers. Worth watching IMO.

This is just a Cons attempt to rally the anti Liberals sentiment just like the truck convoy protesters. I think Orange Man tried to do the same with PBS and NPR. Turns public broadcasting reaches 98% of Americans everywhere in the fifty states and territories.
 

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Another huge CBC series is Heartland. Going on its 15th season.
CBC has had quite a few good TV series over the years.


Wasn’t Schitt’s Creek a CBC developed series? That show has huge ratings.Catherine O’hara plays Emily Blunts slutty mom in Pain Hustlers. Worth watching IMO.
 
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Neelsmith1234

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I listen to and watch the CBC every day. While its not perfect, it is the only one that reaches almost all of the country and has programming that tries to represent all of the country. It should be treasured, not defunded.

Before talking about getting rid of public funded institutions, be careful what you wish for. These institutions have a mandate to serve all citizens. Private alternatives only serve where they can make a profit and they done care about damaging the publuc good if its profitable.
 
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i grew up with 3 channels, cbc being one of them so for me it was basically 2. For me, cbc's biggest contribution to my tv viewing was hockey night in Canada. I haven't watched or listened to anything by or on cbc in well over a decade. Obviously, i'm not alone, given their constant ratings shortfalls. We are a long ways from the time when the cbc was needed or important to "most" Canadians. Internet/cell/sat service is better than ever and always improving so options exist for most Canadians. The vid posted is biased trash-i shut off almost immediately, but the cbc is a money sinkhole. I'm not saying it should just go away but pissing away huge amounts of tax dollars on something the gen pop doesn't support isn't sustainable.
 

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We should not only defund the CBC, we should ban it outright. All it does is hold the fabric of Canada together. When I arrived in Canada many, many years ago our daily highlight was listening to As it Happens with Barbara Frum. The alternative today is the far right and fake news. God bless the CBC.
 

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Defund the CBC so right-wingers and MapleMAGAs can get even more misinformation from bullshit sources on YouTube?

We should strive to help people get smarter, not dumber.
One billion dollars worth of woke garbage.

Often factually wrong.

When not just wrong, openly shilling for the Federal Liberals ( the people that sign their paychecks)

I don't need my tax dollars going to overpaid hacks pedaling bullshit progressive narratives.

If it is to continue to exist, it must survive on ad revenue. Otherwise, the people that work there now will have to virtue signal on their own dime.
 

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Typical Conservatve bullshit. They hate the CBC and always have.
They hate the idea of a Canadian public broadcaster, and Canadian culture generally. They love the private media outlets though, since they control all of them (and that is most telling in all the ways the private shill for their political candidates at election time), and some of those private outlets of those are even American owned and just pretend to be Canadian (like Postmedia which owns the Vancouver Sun, National Post, etc.).

When was the last time you saw "international" news on any private news media in Canada that was not actually originated by a US network - Fox, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc. ? The answer is NEVER. The privates do not bother having their own international reporters anymore except (ironically) in Washington. Even if they are covering news from an English-speaking nation like the UK or Australia, they do not pay for a feed from a local news agency - they always give Canadians the American news report on those countries.

Now on top of this, the usual clowns want to side with X or Facebook or Google, against all the Canadian journalists those foreign companies steal content from - and (big surprise) their fanboys go after the CBC twice as hard because as long as CBC has p[ubl;ic funding it won't go out of business, while the privates might (or get taken over).

As for the CBC's left wing slant, it is well known that if you want to be a journalist working for CTV, Postmedia, Global, etc. etc. you have to be a right winger or shill for the right wing parties every time you are told to. They will air whatever Pollievre, Falcon, Smith, Ford says, word for word, and with zero examination of whether it's true or marketing bullshit. Same goes for all those well-funded "think tanks" - they legitimize everything those are spouting, and never an examination of any counter-point or even whether the issue they raise is a real one, or just made up.

So guess where all the journalists go who don't want to push that party line? Yup, CBC. Sure, they take that "identity" shit too far too far at times, but remember that is a side-effect of how slanted & censored the corporate media are.

Criticizing publicly funded CBC as "government run" plays well to the paranoid clowns who think anything public is "communism", but the CBC has always been quick to skewer the same governments that sign their paycheques, without fear. They are clearly not some state news agency like in Iran or North Korea, where everything is a function of state control of information - and smart people know the difference.

Why as a REAL Canadian, would I want to kill off the only news agency that even tries to be Canadian, or allows its journalists to act independently and use their own critical thinking to criticize any political party they want, instead of being force-fed some scripted CPC talking points and calling that news coverage?

Fuck that. Keep the CBC and break up those corrupt privately-owned news media empires, so they can't feed us the same bullshit through a dozen different platforms. Sorry this bruises the egos of some dimwits out there, but it's clear that Polly Prissy Pants is lying to you, and if you got your news from someone other than those who pull his puppet strings, you might actually realize that.

If I had a wish for the CBC, it would be to fund it properly, especially news, and oriented towards hard hitting news and investigative journalism. Yes, they already do that as much or more than any other Canadian network, but there is no point trying to soften their approach under marketing or political pressure.
Most of the so-called "wokeness" on CBC is actually cheapness, because it is cheaper to hire some nitwit from Buzzfeed for the optics, than to send hardcore journalists who have the training and determination to bring them back to greatness. They take any silly criticism and amplify it because if the one side are fanatics who always hate you for being publicly funded and accurate news, maybe they are too afraid of the potential grievances from the others. Well fuck all that grivance culture - fuck the right's and the left's. Just tell the truth, and let the rabid dogs go on foaming at the mouth.
 
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Drjohn

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Typical Conservatve bullshit. They hate the CBC and always have.
They hate the idea of a Canadian public broadcaster, and Canadian culture generally. They love the private media outlets though, since they control all of them (and that is most telling in all the ways the private shill for their political candidates at election time), and some of those private outlets of those are even American owned and just pretend to be Canadian (like Postmedia which owns the Vancouver Sun, National Post, etc.).

When was the last time you saw "international" news on any private news media in Canada that was not actually originated by a US network - Fox, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc. ? The answer is NEVER. The privates do not bother having their own international reporters anymore except (ironically) in Washington. Even if they are covering news from an English-speaking nation like the UK or Australia, they do not pay for a feed from a local news agency - they always give Canadians the American news report on those countries.

Now on top of this, the usual clowns want to side with X or Facebook or Google, against all the Canadian journalists those foreign companies steal content from - and (big surprise) their fanboys go after the CBC twice as hard because as long as CBC has p[ubl;ic funding it won't go out of business, while the privates might (or get taken over).

As for the CBC's left wing slant, it is well known that if you want to be a journalist working for CTV, Postmedia, Global, etc. etc. you have to be a right winger or shill for the right wing parties every time you are told to.
So guess where all the journalists go who don't want to push that party line? Yup, CBC. Sure, they take that "identity" shit too far too far at times, but remember that is a side-effect of how slanted & censored the corporate media are.

Criticizing publicly funded CBC as "government run" plays well to the paranoid clowns, but the CBC has always been quick to skewer the same governments that sign their paycheques - this is not some state news agency like in Iran or North Korea, and smart people know the difference.

Why as a REAL Canadian, would I want to kill off the only news agency that even tries to be Canadian, or allows its journalists to use their own critical thinking and criticize any political party they want, instead of being force-fed some scripted CPC talking points and calling that news coverage?

Fuck that. Keep the CBC and break up those corrupt privately-owned news media empires, so they can't feed us the same bullshit through a dozen different platforms.

If I had a wish for the CBC, it would be to fund it properly, especially news, and oriented towards hard hitting news and investigative journalism. Yes, they already do that. but I'd get rid of anything wishy washy - most of the so-called "wokeness" on CBC is actually cheapness, because it is cheaper to hire some nitwit from Buzzfeed for the optics, than to send hardcore journalists who have the training and determination to bring them back to greatness.
Corporate mainstream media in Canada is now being propped up by the federal Liberals. In other words, nearly all media in Canada is beholden to the federal Liberals.

If you work for ANY mainstream media in Canada , you will think twice before you publish or show anything critical of the current government.

The control the Liberals have over media in Canada is BLATANT.
 
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