Looking for some tips

[nathyron]

Hey Everyone.

I'm new to this and after reading many posts and trying to learn the etiquette of the industry here in Canada, I wanted to ask a few questions:

- I believe it would be normal for a SP to request a deposit for first timers - but is this practice really common? or should I avoid everyone who requests payment in advance?
I've seen some people who were asked for other payments after the deposit, like security and such.

- Should I only do cash payments? If I were to meet with a SP

- What are common redflags for you guys when contacting a SP for the first time? From what I read, a few are: they don't do a screening, being rushy, not having social media

- Is it considered rude to request an exchange of selfies with a timestamp to confirm identity before agreeing to do any type of deposit?

 

[nathyron]

Do not do any deposits unless you have seen her before regardless of what anyone else says

It’s your money and allowing a random person to take it prior to meeting is not safe.

As you are new I would stick to cash only providers , so your research on the forum and asking questions is great

Nothing is really considered rude I would say, but the whole pretense of meeting a service provider is security of secrecy, so sharing anything that’s a compromise of their personal security or yours is generally a no no.

Varies from provider to provider and what you’re comfortable with.


I suggest going to one of the many agency’s first before you try to see any Indy’s

Although I would recommend a Nicole vixen, she is wonderful

For agencys
Coco collective
Luxxe affair
Bunz club

Are all good choices

VME , and WCA are also good but a little tighter on versatility on verification

Hey thanks for replying! I forgot to mention on the original post but I'm in Winnipeg so I'm not sure if any of these agencies operate here

 

[Miss Julia Fontaine]

I hope you consider input from providers as well. A reputable escort with a professional website and positive reviews signifies credibility. Requesting a deposit isn't necessarily a red flag; it's a measure to ensure serious inquiries and secure against time-wasters. Escorts invest in safety and transportation, and deposits help offset these costs. Personally, my passion for this profession is unwavering, and maintaining my good name is paramount. Rest assured, I take pride in my integrity and professionalism.

 

[Miss Julia Fontaine]

Also, I'd like to emphasize that the absence of social media doesn't automatically indicate someone is a scam. For instance, I don't have any active social media profiles myself. Although I had a Twitter account in the past, one day, I closed it and never succeed to reopened it. Rebuilding a profile takes time, and honestly, I'm not particularly inclined towards extensive use of social media. I value real, in-person connections and prefer spending my time engaging with people face-to-face, in the real world. I consciously limit my screen time to prioritize genuine interactions.

 

[rinamood]

Lena did a great post on etiquette when booking an independent/indie provider:
https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/booking-an-indy-tips-tricks-dos-and-donts.339457/

1. It's common for SPs to ask for a deposit first time, and even the following times, as each time is a new time/date commitment. Regardless of whether they ask for a deposit or no deposit, do treat it as any other appointment to attend 🙏 If the ad looks too good to be true, trust your gut. If you disagree with their deposit/booking policy, move on to someone else.

2. Ask them for their preference. Some want 100% cash only, some prefer an amount sent digitally. Everyone is different.

3. "Not screening" is not always a red flag. Everything is business and everyone has a different tolerance for risk vs pay. That being said, it sure would be a lot easier on all sides if there wasn't such a risk of injury and worse on the SPs side 😳 Our social media gets taken down left and right. Check for reviews, presence, website, and whether you're comfortable with what you're presented both visually and information-wise. Do your due diligence using the search function and take what you read with a grain of salt.

4. Typically, yeah I'd consider it rude. It can go as far as being an instant-block for many. It's essentially asking for a free custom pic, right there, right then 🤷 A lot of timewasters ask to exchange pics to "sext" (they send unwanted explicit photos), ridicule, and even see it as a green light trauma dump. They see me responding as an "in" to chat for free 😅 Super inappropriate.

 

[westwoody]

I believe it would be normal for a SP to request a deposit for first timers - but is this practice really common?

I have never had a problem with any well known ladies who require deposits.
Example- You are going to pay anyway if you are serious. Let’s say a rate is 100/hr, you pay 50 in a deposit and 50 on arrival.

I've seen some people who were asked for other payments after the deposit, like security and such.

Abort! Abort! If you already sent a deposit and they want more than agreed on cancel. Even if you lose your deposit. Changing terms or wanting more is a huge red flag. Quit while you are ahead.

- Is it considered rude to request an exchange of selfies

Yes if it is someone with pictures in their ads and online activity. There are tons of creepy guys who pester women for pics and never commit.
And nobody sits around all dolled up in case a guy texts wanting a selfie!

ps VIPTOG is the only agency in Winnipeg.

 

[Miss Julia Fontaine]

I have never had a problem with any well known ladies who require deposits.
Example- You are going to pay anyway if you are serious. Let’s say a rate is 100/hr, you pay 50 in a deposit and 50 on arrival.

Abort! Abort! If you already sent a deposit and they want more than agreed on cancel. Even if you lose your deposit. Changing terms or wanting more is a huge red flag. Quit while you are ahead.

Yes if it is someone with pictures in their ads and online activity. There are tons of creepy guys who pester women for pics and never commit.
And nobody sits around all dolled up in case a guy texts wanting a selfie!

ps VIPTOG is the only agency in Winnipeg.

I like you answers Westwood’s! You’re right and that’s really helpful for providers like me. Thanks 🙏 ♥

 

[LC18]

Thank you for mentioning my thread @rinamood

I am always updating it and some of the questions asked here will be added as some of them are pretty relevant and often asked.

 

[LC18]

As for you @nathyron

- I believe it would be normal for a SP to request a deposit for first timers - but is this practice really common?
I am based in Montreal and I would say it’s becoming more and more common for independent companions.

or should I avoid everyone who requests payment in advance?
Always be careful with that. You want to make sure that it is not a scam. Like I mentioned in my thread, no trusted/reputable provider is going to risk their reputation over $25-$50 they might ask as a deposit.

I've seen some people who were asked for other payments after the deposit, like security and such.
“My car broke down, can you send $x for a taxi?” she’s never gonna come. Stick to the deposit only.

- Should I only do cash payments? If I were to meet with a SP
I know a few of my peers accept electronic payments. If you’re comfortable with having an electronic trace of your meeting, go for it.

- What are common redflags for you guys when contacting a SP for the first time? From what I read, a few are: they don't do a screening, being rushy, not having social media
I am not a man so I’ll avoid answering this one.

- Is it considered rude to request an exchange of selfies with a timestamp to confirm identity before agreeing to do any type of deposit?
It is considered to be rude. If you have to do that to make sure the person is who they say they are, maybe it’s best you don’t go through with the meeting.

 

[nathyron]

Thanks everyone so far for replying. I guess 2 things are certain: don't ask for selfie and just lose the money on the deposit if she starts asking for more right after

 

[Crookedmember]

Thanks everyone so far for replying. I guess 2 things are certain: don't ask for selfie and just lose the money on the deposit if she starts asking for more right after

It is a semi-illicit activity, so you should treat it like you would any other semi-illicit activity and not leave a paper trail. That means no e-transfers, deposits, pictures of your driver's licence, DNA sample and whatnot.,

If a stranger isn't willing to book you without you sending money and/or your personal info first, move on to the next one.

 

[lukom]

A problem I had with sending deposits recently is that when I was at the bank applying for a line of credit, the rep who was working with me was looking through my bank records and asked about my most recent e transfer, which happened to be to a deposit, plus the full payment. It would have looked weird that there was $50 one transaction, plus another $600 next day and the name of the sp's email not being so discrete. Another thing to consider if applying for a consumer proposal with your lenders and banks down the road due to financial hardships, the etransfers may come back to bight you. Might be safer if there was a gift card option, or even PayPal...etc

 

[Crookedmember]

A problem I had with sending deposits recently is that when I was at the bank applying for a line of credit, the rep who was working with me was looking through my bank records and asked about my most recent e transfer, which happened to be to a deposit, plus the full payment. It would have looked weird that there was $50 one transaction, plus another $600 next day and the name of the sp's email not being so discrete. Another thing to consider if applying for a consumer proposal with your lenders and banks down the road due to financial hardships, the etransfers may come back to bight you. Might be safer if there was a gift card option, or even PayPal...etc

A few years ago, I was involved in a lawsuit with ICBC--suing the at-fault driver.

During discovery, the ICBC lawyer asked for--and I guess received--my last 7 years of banking records.

Luckily there was nothing like payments to SPs in my records, which they could have used to embarrass me or force me into accepting a lower settlement.

Any payment you make through a bank is on record forever. If you're comfortable with that, go ahead and do e-transfers rather than walking 100 feet to the nearest cash machine.

 

[lukom]

A few years ago, I was involved in a lawsuit with ICBC--suing the at-fault driver.

During discovery, the ICBC lawyer asked for--and I guess received--my last 7 years of banking records.

Luckily there was nothing like payments to SPs in my records, which they could have used to embarrass me or force me into accepting a lower settlement.

Any payment you make through a bank is on record forever. If you're comfortable with that, go ahead and do e-transfers rather than walking 100 feet to the nearest cash machine.

Sounds about right. I totally forgot about something similar where I had to present few years of bank records to my lawyer when I sued icbc years ago.

 

[Larry's Torch]

If you are planning on immigrating; the gov. authorities of the country you've selected like to see one year's worth of bank statements for solvency reasons.

 

[annievilleneuve26]

If you are planning on immigrating; the gov. authorities of the country you've selected like to see one year's worth of bank statements for solvency reasons.

That is much more of a problem for the sp that try to immigrate than the pooner

 

[WestCoast_Luver41]

- I believe it would be normal for a SP to request a deposit for first timers - but is this practice really common? or should I avoid everyone who requests payment in advance?
I've seen some people who were asked for other payments after the deposit, like security and such.

Some reputable SWs will require deposit for first timers. So it goes without saying that if she is reputable and you really want to meet her, it is a GO.

- What are common redflags for you guys when contacting a SP for the first time? From what I read, a few are: they don't do a screening, being rushy, not having social media

If you stick to reputable agencies and reputable independent SWs, you will rarely have to worry about red flags.
Now, if you want to be adventurous and just randomly pick any unreviewed SW on the web, then you are literally running after red flags...
Btw: Not doing screening is not automatically a red flag. There are reliable SWs who are not doing screening.
Same for not having social media. As mentioned above, what you have to worry about is the reputation (via reviews) of the SW.
Anything else are just suggestions, possibilities, approximations...

- Is it considered rude to request an exchange of selfies with a timestamp to confirm identity before agreeing to do any type of deposit?

I see where you are going with this, but expect most SWs to turn this request down.

 

[PatMat]

I’m doing this hobby more than 8 years. These are my personal experience!
- If I see party friendly, I move on. They usually stay in dirty place and provide poor service.
- If I ask for rates and they ask about my location, it is most likely a scam. I once scammed like that and paid $100 gift deposit and no show. After I got home and searched around, I found same ad in 4 different provinces almost same time! They don’t know where is the victim from! So, they ask.
- If I find the SP on Leolist and they ask for deposit, I will not deposit until I find a couple of proper reviews here and there. I trust “Tryst.link” more
- I never send e-transfer. I never send anything that can be tracked! I go to a small store buy a gift card in cash and take a picture and send it.
- I never take my wallet to incall! Someone robbed me 7 years ago! After that I never take my wallet. Put enough cash in your pocket and go inside.
- I never use my cell phone. Use textnow or textplus. Some don’t like it and do not even answer. When one of them bugged you to see them on your real cell number and you were close to you wife, you will understand it was a big mistake to use your real cell phone! When you block them, they use those app to bug you…

PS: I consider those that do not ask for deposit more professional. They believe in creating trust…