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marsvolta

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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith: "By abandoning CPP for an Alberta only pension system, we can ensure pension investments are directed at the soon failing oil sector as most institutional investors abandon carbon due to peak oil now expected this decade. Further, we expect all Canadians to give up half of their retirement savings in order to maximize short term oil sector profits and to bail us out once the oil industry has finished fleecing Albertans in its last death throws."

Alberta to explore leaving CPP as report lays claim to more than half of fund
 

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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith: "By abandoning CPP for an Alberta only pension system, we can ensure pension investments are directed at the soon failing oil sector as most institutional investors abandon carbon due to peak oil now expected this decade. Further, we expect all Canadians to give up half of their retirement savings in order to maximize short term oil sector profits and to bail us out once the oil industry has finished fleecing Albertans in its last death throws."

Alberta to explore leaving CPP as report lays claim to more than half of fund
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Trudeau is just butthurt from the cold shoulder given by India at G20.
This makes no sense. The reason he got 'the cold shoulder' is because he had the spine to confront despot Modi at the G20 with evidence that the Indian government was involved with killing a Canadian on Canadian soil.

Conservatives wanted Trudeau to bow to Trump during NAFTA talks. Now they want him to bow to Modi. Trudeau has his faults, but unlike most conservatives, he is not a coward.

Poilievre and Harper continue to kiss Modi's fat ass. But Trudeau sure won't.
 

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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith: "By abandoning CPP for an Alberta only pension system, we can ensure pension investments are directed at the soon failing oil sector as most institutional investors abandon carbon due to peak oil now expected this decade. Further, we expect all Canadians to give up half of their retirement savings in order to maximize short term oil sector profits and to bail us out once the oil industry has finished fleecing Albertans in its last death throws."

Alberta to explore leaving CPP as report lays claim to more than half of fund
Comrade

where did you get this supposed quote?

here's the bottom line

Albertans are getting screwed by the feds on many counts, including CCP

if Alberta withdraws from it, the rest of the country's contributions would have to drastically increase to cover the bill

the only commie to run Alberta briefly was so stupid she allowed Turdeau to increase our contributions with no benefit for Alberta
 
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Comrade

where did you get this supposed quote?

here's the bottom line

Albertans are getting screwed by the feds on many counts, including CCP

if Alberta withdraws from it, the rest of the country's contributions would have to drastically increase to cover the bill

the only commie to run Alberta briefly was so stupid she allowed Turdeau to increase our contributions with no benefit for Alberta
only old guys are still afraid of communists.
 

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This makes no sense. The reason he got 'the cold shoulder' is because he had the spine to confront despot Modi at the G20 with evidence that the Indian government was involved with killing a Canadian on Canadian soil.

Conservatives wanted Trudeau to bow to Trump during NAFTA talks. Now they want him to bow to Modi. Trudeau has his faults, but unlike most conservatives, he is not a coward.

Poilievre and Harper continue to kiss Modi's fat ass. But Trudeau sure won't.
Which evidence are you talking about? I agree, he is not coward, you need courage to give shelter to terrorists and gangsters. It's amusing that liberals think JT is messing with a country of 1.6 billion ppl, 5th largest economy over one terrorist getting murdered because he has "values".
 
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This makes no sense. The reason he got 'the cold shoulder' is because he had the spine to confront despot Modi at the G20 with evidence that the Indian government was involved with killing a Canadian on Canadian soil.

Conservatives wanted Trudeau to bow to Trump during NAFTA talks. Now they want him to bow to Modi. Trudeau has his faults, but unlike most conservatives, he is not a coward.

Poilievre and Harper continue to kiss Modi's fat ass. But Trudeau sure won't.
And to be noted that Canadian immigration processes, police clarifications, background checks is so prompt that uneducated, violent and wanted people in other countries are getting Canadian citizenship from backdoor. Does it bother you?
 
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And to be noted that Canadian immigration processes, police clarifications, background checks is so prompt that uneducated, violent and wanted people in other countries are getting Canadian citizenship from backdoor. Does it bother you?
Well, yeah, but Nijjar got Canadian citizenship in 2007, which was--checks notes--during the law and order Harper years.
 
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Well, yeah, but Nijjar got Canadian citizenship in 2007, which was--checks notes--during the law and order Harper years.
Probably that's the reason, first they mentioned 2015 and then as correction backdated it to 2007. Something smells rotten in this narrative.
 

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Well this thread is heading for annihilation.
Entertaining watching the flames being thrown, I'll admit ...
 

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Comrade

where did you get this supposed quote?

here's the bottom line

Albertans are getting screwed by the feds on many counts, including CCP

if Alberta withdraws from it, the rest of the country's contributions would have to drastically increase to cover the bill

the only commie to run Alberta briefly was so stupid she allowed Turdeau to increase our contributions with no benefit for Alberta
WTF. How. Albertans make 4.3 million people vs. 39 million for Canada. How can it claim half of the CPP. Everybody that works in Canada pays into the CPP.
The unfortunate part is that the federal budgets fuckers have dipped into several funds (pension plans, EI etc) in the past to pay down debt.
The contributions today are mostly going to pay for CPP plus other federal taxes for existing CPP payouts today. The other gift is the aging population. The people coming up won't be able to support the future CPP monthly payouts.
Pretty much every time there is a government change from lib to conservative or then back to lib, the federal budget is fucked up beyond belief. The inherited disaster of past budget scamming and hiding errors. In 10 years I 'll be surprised if there is a CPP.
 

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This makes no sense. The reason he got 'the cold shoulder' is because he had the spine to confront despot Modi at the G20 with evidence that the Indian government was involved with killing a Canadian on Canadian soil.

Conservatives wanted Trudeau to bow to Trump during NAFTA talks. Now they want him to bow to Modi. Trudeau has his faults, but unlike most conservatives, he is not a coward.

Poilievre and Harper continue to kiss Modi's fat ass. But Trudeau sure won't.
India is the lesser of 2 evils. China being the other one for cheap supply of consumer goods. China and India are at odd with India northern border.

China is up on the chopping block due to US backing of Taiwan, and the right of free passage in contested waters, which China is now claiming as its own (South China Sea).

The Malacca Strait strait is a major trade route, if closed due to conflict with China in the South China Sea or Taiwan, over 50% of World Trade will be affected.
The other thing that could happen is the China/India/Afghanistan/Iraq to Russia trade route which could effectively isolate the West. Again through the Malacca Strait.

Actually Trudeau when bringing in Singh, effectively partnered with a culture that has terrorist/militant actions back in India. The fact that they say they have a peaceful religion, is very telling; in that historically Sikhs are a militant people.

While Canadian population is of a majority of European descent, more and more Canadian domestic politics are being affected by minority parties (Aboriginals, China, India). But our foreign policy is usually dictated by US position on world events. The US position is the enforcement of patents, which makes their multinationals very rich. Countries with muslim governments don't believe in patented technology. And China doesn't either. The problem in the US it needs more competition to drive down the prices of normal things, instead of relying on foreign imports (which are owned by US companies). Patents restrict competition.

An non-example of a patent is the jet engine. Developed/Patented by a British inventor in the British air force between World Wars. The first jet engines were German using this British patent design, then British. The Americans were given the jet engine through technology transfer in WW2. Where would America today be without the jet engine?

Our Canadian Economy is affected by the major US companies plying their manufacturing in the far east (India, China, Malaysia etc). During Covid the slow down of trade with China affected the supply chain for material goods. Seen by empty shelves in supermarkets and other stores. The Canadian economy is affected by global shortages that are started in the far east.

Today India is where China was at 35 years ago. China got it base in finance thru the failed business ventures/mutual funds created in the early 90s when Hong Kong was being given back to China. That was 35 years ago. If you need cheap labour, and can't go to China, you are going to India.
 
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What Sr. Trudeau started for personal benefit and appeasement, has now became a hostage situation for Jr. Trudeau. India raising the concerns it since 80s but no action was taken even after Air India flight bombing in Canada. Having said that if investigation points out at India's involvement in killing then Canada must raise it at UN level. What I am concerned is that, politics is not being played for Canada's interest but for personal gains, facts are twisted. What I don't understand is that people leave their homelands for better life but then when number increases they try to convert it like the place they left.
 
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Ironically the same old guys mooching off everyone else’s pension contributions. And healthcare payments.
boomers! and they are the ones who came up with the idea of never ending national debt... to be paid by others in the future! meanwhile making more money than any other civilization in human history.
 
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