Scam story. Looking for newbie tips and recommendation.

[immafuku]

Hi guys, Im new in Van so I don't know how this works here and almost got scammed twice, so I would greatly appreciate some tips and recommendations on Asian agencies.

Scam story: I met a few girls on Tan Tan the Chinese dating app mostly by using translator, they suggested In-call at their place for around 200-300/h. They were attentive and bold enough to give their addresses and all are on busy streets so I wont worry about getting robbed. I got there and suddenly they said another guy will call me for safety, Im not dumb enough to give my fone number but we used wechat to call. In short the guy asked me to pay up front using etransfer or giftcards, I refused having read some stories here, he called a few times but gave up quickly.

Another time, a girl on TanTan added me on Instagram and said to meet up in front of a Shoppers. Again once I got there, some guy called on wechat but this time he said go buy a Apple card instead and said to give it to the girl after the business is done. Unlucky for him (or for me) no Apple card in the store, no Steam either. At this point I'm fed up with the hassle and gave up as it was too late already. The guy was PISSED, threatening to kill me and bring people to my house, that he is part of a big gang in Van and they will track me down. He insisted me buying the card and show him the receipt now. I was drunk and tired so I just hang up and drove off. This guys keeps spamming and calling for an hour. Im wondering what would he gain if I bought the Gift Card because there is no way in hell I trust him or the girl after those death threats. Is he by any chance legit?

I read some reviews about kvip, yumiko, privateparadise ...etc but they rarely replied their wechat.

What is the flow here? Pay first or later? Cash or etransfer? Is Apple card or gift card a thing or a must? Where do you go to do your deeds (hotel or the girl's place?) Are Dating apps and Leolist actually have chances for inexperienced and independent girls? How early do you have to book before hand?

Im quite used to the industry in Asia but here seems a lot tougher to get it right.
Any trusted agency or website woukd be great!

thanks all!

 

[Zigouille]

Try Asian Fever for your first time. Go on their website. Pick a girl and time that she works. Send them an introduction text message using your real phone number ( no problem there as they are very private ) they send you a condo address to meet the girl. Voilà enjoy !!

 

[immafuku]

Try Asian Fever for your first time. Go on their website. Pick a girl and time that she works. Send them an introduction text message using your real phone number ( no problem there as they are very private ) they send you a condo address to meet the girl. Voilà enjoy !!

Thank you for the suggestions. I read some comments saying Asian Fever is more toward caucasian audience and their girls are a bit older. I saw their photo styles are very westernized with no show of face. Can I ask for face photos? I know some other places show face photos even on their website.

 

[Newb808]

Well you were definitely right not to send anything to those first few as they were no doubt virtual scammers ie there was no girl and he probably isn’t even in this city.
I recommend Asian Fever and the Asian shops, if that’s your preference, that are highly rated on PERB. These places typically don’t expect payment until you’re in the room with the girl. Get a second SIM card/phoneif you’re worried about privacy and discretion.

 

[vanperb]

Yeah... someone needs to write a guide for micros and massage parlours.

 

[Newb808]

Thank you for the suggestions. I read some comments saying Asian Fever is more toward caucasian audience and their girls are a bit older. I saw their photo styles are very westernized with no show of face. Can I ask for face photos? I know some other places show face photos even on their website.

AF will not send face pics but some of the girls have Onlyfans that are more revealing. Lots of other places use fake photos sometimes and or photoshop but the girls are generally as hot as their price point. Read some reviews for the shops you’re interested in.

 

[Asian Fever]

Thank you for the suggestions. I read some comments saying Asian Fever is more toward caucasian audience and their girls are a bit older. I saw their photo styles are very westernized with no show of face. Can I ask for face photos? I know some other places show face photos even on their website.

We have two girls that are legitimately 19, and almost all of the others are in their 20s with the exception of 2 or 3. The age range is listed on their profiles and it is accurate.

I would not say we are for a Caucasian audience, but we are more for a western/canadian audience. We tend to hire local girls, they may have tats etc and the girls do value their privacy so most will not show their face and we respect that, even privately. That being said, local girls are more open minded with a pretty wide range of menu items.. many offer greek or are bi-sexual and offer interactive duos with other girls, entertain couples etc.

Our clients are of all ethnicities (maybe half CBC, a lot of Caucasian, and then everything else) and it generally matches the Vancouver demographic, just not so many foreign born clients and there is a reason for that... we don't care much about beauty standards somewhere in Asia as it doesn't really reflect our target audience. If you are looking for the plain type with no makeup and specific jawlines etc, we are not the place for you. We would hire confident a girl with an enhanced rack, makeup done to 11, and lots of tats over a shy and plain looking girl any day of the week, but the girls don't all fit the same mold and we have a pretty wide variety of options.

Note that all of the girls except 2 speak english... this is also listed accurately. In regards to privacy above, you can also contact us with the Telegram app, which similar to WeChat (minus the big brother) and does not share your number with the recipient unless you decide to do so, so it's a good option, not to mention encrypted.

Not sure if that sounds good to you or not but, that's what we are all about. Best of luck on your search.

 

[immafuku]

Well you were definitely right not to send anything to those first few as they were no doubt virtual scammers ie there was no girl and he probably isn’t even in this city.
I recommend Asian Fever and the Asian shops, if that’s your preference, that are highly rated on PERB. These places typically don’t expect payment until you’re in the room with the girl. Get a second SIM card/phoneif you’re worried about privacy and discretion.

Thanks for the tips. Can you recommend some of the trusted asian shops that you mentioned? Thanks!

 

[pleasureprinciple]

Hi guys, Im new in Van so I don't know how this works here and almost got scammed twice, so I would greatly appreciate some tips and recommendations on Asian agencies.

Scam story: I met a few girls on Tan Tan the Chinese dating app mostly by using translator, they suggested In-call at their place for around 200-300/h. They were attentive and bold enough to give their addresses and all are on busy streets so I wont worry about getting robbed. I got there and suddenly they said another guy will call me for safety, Im not dumb enough to give my fone number but we used wechat to call. In short the guy asked me to pay up front using etransfer or giftcards, I refused having read some stories here, he called a few times but gave up quickly.

Another time, a girl on TanTan added me on Instagram and said to meet up in front of a Shoppers. Again once I got there, some guy called on wechat but this time he said go buy a Apple card instead and said to give it to the girl after the business is done. Unlucky for him (or for me) no Apple card in the store, no Steam either. At this point I'm fed up with the hassle and gave up as it was too late already. The guy was PISSED, threatening to kill me and bring people to my house, that he is part of a big gang in Van and they will track me down. He insisted me buying the card and show him the receipt now. I was drunk and tired so I just hang up and drove off. This guys keeps spamming and calling for an hour. Im wondering what would he gain if I bought the Gift Card because there is no way in hell I trust him or the girl after those death threats. Is he by any chance legit?

I read some reviews about kvip, yumiko, privateparadise ...etc but they rarely replied their wechat.

What is the flow here? Pay first or later? Cash or etransfer? Is Apple card or gift card a thing or a must? Where do you go to do your deeds (hotel or the girl's place?) Are Dating apps and Leolist actually have chances for inexperienced and independent girls? How early do you have to book before hand?

Im quite used to the industry in Asia but here seems a lot tougher to get it right.
Any trusted agency or website woukd be great!

thanks all!

There is an excellent thread that you will have to search for the details about 65 features to look for to minimize being scammed. Notice I said "minimize". It will happen and hopefully not often. Apologies that I cannot remember the title, one of the mods might or another Perbite

 

[vanperb]

There is an excellent thread that you will have to search for the details about 65 features to look for to minimize being scammed. Notice I said "minimize". It will happen and hopefully not often. Apologies that I cannot remember the title, one of the mods might or another Perbite

I wrote one but it's almost exclusively for independents and non-Asian providers. Micros, massage parlours, and Asian agencies are a completely different beast and requires very different perspective.

 

[immafuku]

We have two girls that are legitimately 19, and almost all of the others are in their 20s with the exception of 2 or 3. The age range is listed on their profiles and it is accurate.

I would not say we are for a Caucasian audience, but we are more for a western/canadian audience. We tend to hire local girls, they may have tats etc and the girls do value their privacy so most will not show their face and we respect that, even privately. That being said, local girls are more open minded with a pretty wide range of menu items.. many offer greek or are bi-sexual and offer interactive duos with other girls, entertain couples etc.

Our clients are of all ethnicities (maybe half CBC, a lot of Caucasian, and then everything else) and it generally matches the Vancouver demographic, just not so many foreign born clients and there is a reason for that... we don't care much about beauty standards somewhere in Asia as it doesn't really reflect our target audience. If you are looking for the plain type with no makeup and specific jawlines etc, we are not the place for you. We would hire confident a girl with an enhanced rack, makeup done to 11, and lots of tats over a shy and plain looking girl any day of the week, but the girls don't all fit the same mold and we have a pretty wide variety of options.

Note that all of the girls except 2 speak english... this is also listed accurately. In regards to privacy above, you can also contact us with the Telegram app, which similar to WeChat (minus the big brother) and does not share your number with the recipient unless you decide to do so, so it's a good option, not to mention encrypted.

Not sure if that sounds good to you or not but, that's what we are all about. Best of luck on your search.

Thank you very much for the info. Really appreciate when a vendor joins the forum and offers advices. It shows a lot in their confidence and reliability. I will check out your site for sure.

I'm surprised that there isn't any guide written by the vendors here.

We have two girls that are legitimately 19, and almost all of the others are in their 20s with the exception of 2 or 3. The age range is listed on their profiles and it is accurate.

I would not say we are for a Caucasian audience, but we are more for a western/canadian audience. We tend to hire local girls, they may have tats etc and the girls do value their privacy so most will not show their face and we respect that, even privately. That being said, local girls are more open minded with a pretty wide range of menu items.. many offer greek or are bi-sexual and offer interactive duos with other girls, entertain couples etc.

Our clients are of all ethnicities (maybe half CBC, a lot of Caucasian, and then everything else) and it generally matches the Vancouver demographic, just not so many foreign born clients and there is a reason for that... we don't care much about beauty standards somewhere in Asia as it doesn't really reflect our target audience. If you are looking for the plain type with no makeup and specific jawlines etc, we are not the place for you. We would hire confident a girl with an enhanced rack, makeup done to 11, and lots of tats over a shy and plain looking girl any day of the week, but the girls don't all fit the same mold and we have a pretty wide variety of options.

Note that all of the girls except 2 speak english... this is also listed accurately. In regards to privacy above, you can also contact us with the Telegram app, which similar to WeChat (minus the big brother) and does not share your number with the recipient unless you decide to do so, so it's a good option, not to mention encrypted.

Not sure if that sounds good to you or not but, that's what we are all about. Best of luck on your search.

Thank you so much for the info. I always appreciate vendors joining the forum and giving advices. That just shows their confidence and reliability. I will check your site out.

Im actually surprised that there is no guide written by the vendors. It would be super helpful and also serve as a promo for your site. Vendors in Asia do it all the time.

 

[white Ninja]

Book through a well known / well reviewed agency .

Use the agencies website to choose a few girls you like .

Narrow it down using Perb.

Phone them or txt them w your actual cell ( no apps )

book the same day of.
Book a time , and amount of time .
Ask about restrictions and what’s allowed so you know going in .

take a shower shortly before leaving . Floss / waterpick , definitely brush .

Give yourself lots of time to find it . Show up early in the area.
Make sure sure you BRING CASH .

they will txt you when it’s time to go to the building and buzz .

Don’t knock ,
the door will open ,

you will need to take another quick shower again but you will benefit by showing up clean .
no women wants to fuck a guy she thinks usually has bad hygiene.

pay before you play

The most important ; be respectful . She is choosing to allow you to be her client . You are not entitled to it .

Enjoy .

 

[mudbaby]

There is an excellent thread that you will have to search for the details about 65 features to look for to minimize being scammed. Notice I said "minimize". It will happen and hopefully not often. Apologies that I cannot remember the title, one of the mods might or another Perbite

@white Ninja 74 has many fine point above that will get you started.

I’ve been happily pooning for about 24 years and have yet to get scammed. You just need to do your research and stick to trusted venues. I know chasing the unknown can be exciting but that’s what opens you up to this kind of thing. Let the big head drive the little head and you’ll do fine.

Stick to agencies like AF, K604, XDS, Foxy604, DayNight, KVIP, Yumikolove, Icon604 and on the none Asian side, @Luxxxe Affaire , VME, WCA, Bunz, 2274, 1122 etc. All these agencies have a variety of girls to chose from across a range of ages and service levels. Read the reviews and chose a girl that appeals to you, book and have fun. Rinse and repeat.

Now this is not to say that you won’t run into situations where you don’t dig the girl or don’t get the kind of experience you are hoping for or even have the appointment delayed or canceled after booking. You will, thats just part of the hobby. Just chalk it up to experience then move on to the next girls. Most importantly have fun.

Once you have experience navigating the agency scene, branch out to indies.

Couple of specific things to know about some of the above agencies.
-XDS will ask for a small deposit the first time you book. This is a one time thing.

-DayNight will require you to call the first couple of times, but once you are established as a client they are good with text.

-K6O4 and DayNight sometime have what are know as Brosans at thier locations. This is a guy that lets you into the apartment and stays out in the main area during your session. Honestly I don’t know if they’re still doing this or not. This is a practice that used to be very common here in Vancouver but seems to have fallen off over the years. Last couple of times I’ve used both of them I have to run into this.

-A lot of the none Asian agencies will require a screening process. This is usually a one time thing. If you are uncomfortable with this start off with AF, K604, XDS, Foxy604, DayNight, KVIP, Yumikolove, and Icon604.

 

[white Ninja]

No reputable provider or agency is interested in getting paid in gift cards, it's always the sign of a scam.

Actually I’ve noticed a few legit providers require gift cards now , in addition to payment, in order to except you as a client , but for the first booking only .
this is still the exception and not the rule and I believe more common w higher tier providers ? ( although I could be wrong on the last point ) .

 

[immafuku]

Actually I’ve noticed a few legit providers require gift cards now , in addition to payment, in order to except you as a client , but for the first booking only .
this is still the exception and not the rule and I believe more common w higher tier providers ? ( although I could be wrong on the last point ) .

Yea Im wondering that as well, if it is a scam, how would they benefit if I bought that gift card? It's not like I will just send them the code.

On the other hand, why legit providers need to be paid in gift cards? Isn't cash safer and untraceable?

 

[Sonny69]

Just go to Asian Fever or Yumikolove. You pay the girl upon arriving and enjoy. Before you pick a lady, read the reviews here and you will not go wrong.

 

[Luxxxe Affaire]

@white Ninja 74 has many fine point above that will get you started.

I’ve been happily pooning for about 24 years and have yet to get scammed. You just need to do your research and stick to trusted venues. I know chasing the unknown can be exciting but that’s what opens you up to this kind of thing. Let the big head drive the little head and you’ll do fine.

Stick to agencies like AF, K604, XDS, Foxy604, DayNight, KVIP, Yumikolove, Icon604 and on the none Asian side, @Luxxxe Affaire , VME, WCA, Bunz, 2274, 1122 etc. All these agencies have a variety of girls to chose from across a range of ages and service levels. Read the reviews and chose a girl that appeals to you, book and have fun. Rinse and repeat.

Now this is not to say that you won’t run into situations where you don’t dig the girl or don’t get the kind of experience you are hoping for or even have the appointment delayed or canceled after booking. You will, thats just part of the hobby. Just chalk it up to experience then move on to the next girls. Most importantly have fun.

Once you have experience navigating the agency scene, branch out to indies.

Couple of specific things to know about some of the above agencies.
-XDS will ask for a small deposit the first time you book. This is a one time thing.

-DayNight will require you to call the first couple of times, but once you are established as a client they are good with text.

-K6O4 and DayNight sometime have what are know as Brosans at thier locations. This is a guy that lets you into the apartment and stays out in the main area during your session. Honestly I don’t know if they’re still doing this or not. This is a practice that used to be very common here in Vancouver but seems to have fallen off over the years. Last couple of times I’ve used both of them I have to run into this.

-A lot of the none Asian agencies will require a screening process. This is usually a one time thing. If you are uncomfortable with this start off with AF, K604, XDS, Foxy604, DayNight, KVIP, Yumikolove, and Icon604.

Thnk you for the mention

 

[immafuku]

@white Ninja 74 has many fine point above that will get you started.

I’ve been happily pooning for about 24 years and have yet to get scammed. You just need to do your research and stick to trusted venues. I know chasing the unknown can be exciting but that’s what opens you up to this kind of thing. Let the big head drive the little head and you’ll do fine.

Stick to agencies like AF, K604, XDS, Foxy604, DayNight, KVIP, Yumikolove, Icon604 and on the none Asian side, @Luxxxe Affaire , VME, WCA, Bunz, 2274, 1122 etc. All these agencies have a variety of girls to chose from across a range of ages and service levels. Read the reviews and chose a girl that appeals to you, book and have fun. Rinse and repeat.

Now this is not to say that you won’t run into situations where you don’t dig the girl or don’t get the kind of experience you are hoping for or even have the appointment delayed or canceled after booking. You will, thats just part of the hobby. Just chalk it up to experience then move on to the next girls. Most importantly have fun.

Once you have experience navigating the agency scene, branch out to indies.

Couple of specific things to know about some of the above agencies.
-XDS will ask for a small deposit the first time you book. This is a one time thing.

-DayNight will require you to call the first couple of times, but once you are established as a client they are good with text.

-K6O4 and DayNight sometime have what are know as Brosans at thier locations. This is a guy that lets you into the apartment and stays out in the main area during your session. Honestly I don’t know if they’re still doing this or not. This is a practice that used to be very common here in Vancouver but seems to have fallen off over the years. Last couple of times I’ve used both of them I have to run into this.

-A lot of the none Asian agencies will require a screening process. This is usually a one time thing. If you are uncomfortable with this start off with AF, K604, XDS, Foxy604, DayNight, KVIP, Yumikolove, and Icon604.

Thanks for the valuable info here! On the topic of brosans, are there eatablished facilities where you can actually drop by without appointment for a quick fun? Like in Asia they have bars that have girls just standing around and you can talk to anyone you like and arrange for a short or long time right there in a private room upstair or back at your place. Or sometimes places will give you a karaoke room and bring the girls in for you to choose.

 

[mudbaby]

Thanks for the valuable info here! On the topic of brosans, are there eatablished facilities where you can actually drop by without appointment for a quick fun? Like in Asia they have bars that have girls just standing around and you can talk to anyone you like and arrange for a short or long time right there in a private room upstair or back at your place. Or sometimes places will give you a karaoke room and bring the girls in for you to choose.

Closest you will get to that here is in the massage scene, where you can walk in, chose from a number of available girls, then go to a room and have your fun. Places like Tiger, Swan Lake, Sasa, Great Pharaoh and others. I can’t really help much more than that with the massage scene as I’ve never really explored it much. Check out the reviews in the massage section to delve into that side of things more.

I could be wrong because I don’t go to these places, but my perseption is that it’s a little lower end an experience than with agencies, but then of course it depends on which agencies you use as well. Lots of lower end providers in the agency scene as also.

 

[white Ninja]

Thanks for the valuable info here! On the topic of brosans, are there eatablished facilities where you can actually drop by without appointment for a quick fun? Like in Asia they have bars that have girls just standing around and you can talk to anyone you like and arrange for a short or long time right there in a private room upstair or back at your place. Or sometimes places will give you a karaoke room and bring the girls in for you to choose.

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