Only losers pay for sex?

[wwb]

Loser- don’t think so. Some of what you read below is not my own writing but something I agree with completely. This fun hobby has made me a better person and husband. The fact that you have the courage to do something this taboo says a lot about you. You’re ready to break social norms and go against the grain. More importantly, you have money. You are not a loser. You are a fucker. An army of masturbaters will never win against an army of fuckers.

Yes, that’s right, I paid girls to teach me how to be a better man. And, it has been by far the best investment of my life. Escorting is my way of rebelling against mediocrity. I was taught to make money first and then get girls. I decided to flip the script. In my journey I learned that getting better in bed will make you more money in the long term. It builds confidence just like fighting. Being around beautiful women makes life better. My memories are full of me giving orgasm to absolute stunners.

Escorts have shown me what good behavior looks like. I learned to judge a girl’s level of interest based on the sequence of questions they ask. I learned the female body language and how to seamlessly transition from talking to fucking. If I were to design a course for men who are socially inept, escorting would be a fundamental component.

 

[dare.devil]

Loser- don’t think so. Some of what you read below is not my own writing but something I agree with completely. This fun hobby has made me a better person and husband. The fact that you have the courage to do something this taboo says a lot about you. You’re ready to break social norms and go against the grain. More importantly, you have money. You are not a loser. You are a fucker. An army of masturbaters will never win against an army of fuckers.

Yes, that’s right, I paid girls to teach me how to be a better man. And, it has been by far the best investment of my life. Escorting is my way of rebelling against mediocrity. I was taught to make money first and then get girls. I decided to flip the script. In my journey I learned that getting better in bed will make you more money in the long term. It builds confidence just like fighting. Being around beautiful women makes life better. My memories are full of me giving orgasm to absolute stunners.

Escorts have shown me what good behavior looks like. I learned to judge a girl’s level of interest based on the sequence of questions they ask. I learned the female body language and how to seamlessly transition from talking to fucking. If I were to design a course for men who are socially inept, escorting would be a fundamental component.

its a glass half empty or half full type of scenario. Its good that you see the other half. Unfortunately I dont see the way you envisioned it, rather I see it as pure business transaction for my pleasure nothing less, nothing more. I go do my thing, dont learn as I already know more than that. It doesnt make me a better husband or partner for sure, as I seek things my partner cant provide and I share my intimacy with someone I barely know. I do masturbate very frequently and longer which in turn gives me urge to go see real person.

 

[E.H.]

The fact that you have the courage to do something this taboo says a lot about you. Escorting is my way of rebelling against mediocrity.

You are onto something here.

To do something taboo,is to step away from the herd.
To step away from the herd,is to go ones' own way,consistent with MGTOW perspective.
In the Nietzsche context;you cannot be the ,"Man Who Rose Above The Herd"if you have any compunctions about,parting ways with The Herd(Nerd Herd Of Mediocrity,in my regard.).

To exceedingly,"Follow The Herd",is a failure of what Carl Jung identifies as,"The Process Of Individuation".
In ,"the Process Of Individuation" the individual leads themselves away from The Herd,to self-develop on their own path,determined by their own interests & aptitude.
Those who cling to The Herd,while failing to individuate,languish mediocrity, on many levels.

To do something taboo; is to cross the line from morality,to amorality.
Morality is for followers of others' ideas,concerning ,"Right & Wrong",while forsaking their own faculty of critical thinking,in determining their own,"Right & Wrong".
Morality is choosing to follow,rather than thinking & deciding amorally, for ones' self.
The fundamental downside of being a follower;as opposed to leading ones' own self,is that leaders serve their own interests at expense of their followers.
I will not follow morality;I go my own amoral MGTOW way,with occasional visits with favorite escorts.
There's no way that I will supplicantly conform to ,"Dumb Down"into the mill fodder of DIVORCE INCORPORATED,that's the Simps fate.

Morality begets mediocrity;amorality begets goal achievement within the relatively very short time of one's lifespan.
I'm so done with morality;my path forward is Friedrich Nietzsche,"Beyond Good & Evil".
Knowledge & understanding of Darwins' Evolutionary & Natural Selection,plus psychology of human behavioralism,are the foundation of going my own MGTOW way.
Human behavioralism;regardless of gender,is a natural matter,just like the weather.
Just like the weather,human behavioralism is nothing to take personally & get spitefully uptight over.
Rather; human behavioralism is something which one should strive to understand,to enable better results in the pursuit of their own life's goals.

Engelbert Humperdink

 

[E.H.]

Lots of overgrown little boys can't get over their Mommy issues .

By the same measure,let's not forget all those mommies with boy issues.
Next time you see a teenaged boy sporting event,scan the crowd ,counting how many mothers fawn over their sons,as if their sons were their boyfriends.
My friend's son was still being breastfed by his mother at age 6,until my friend threatened to report her to police,if it didn't stop.
Can you say ,"Oedipus Rex"?

Engelbert Humperdink

 

[dare.devil]

I think this thread is going into wrong directions, It was about providers but turned out to be mothers are brought to the central point of discussion.

 

[angry anderson]

By the same measure,let's not forget all those mommies with boy issues.
Next time you see a teenaged boy sporting event,scan the crowd ,counting how many mothers fawn over their sons,as if their sons were their boyfriends.
My friend's son was still being breastfed by his mother at age 6,until my friend threatened to report her to police,if it didn't stop.
Can you say ,"Oedipus Rex"?

Engelbert Humperdink

I never had no luck with women. Even my own mother wouldn't breast feed me. She said she just liked me as a friend.

 

[80watts]

Society is doing a good job of emasculating men. Jordan Peterson once said, young men should become animals, and then learn to control themselves.

The problem is that we apply rules to young people that also apply to mature adults. There should be rules for children, teenagers, young adults, adults, and elders. These are usually cultural rules, but we apply adult laws to them all the time. These adult rules crush the development of young people.

But an very important thing for young people growing up is the wealth of their family. Can they afford certain things for school, for extra-cirricular activities like soccer or hockey. Can they afford to go to college, university, or simple school trips?? Another thing is emotional support from your family. Also very important today is how educated you are, and if you have parents that went to college/universit, as a child you had their advantage.

We all like to think we are better than other people, its human nature.

Advantages, good looks and symmetrical features open doors. Why - have you ever seen an ugly newscaster on the 6 o'clock news...

 

[angry anderson]

have you ever seen an ugly newscaster on the 6 o'clock news...

No. But I woke up with a few.

 

[Bunghole1]

Everyone pays in some way shape or form.

There is a never ending list of party guys who think they are too good looking to pay for sexual encounters but chase women while spending hundreds when they hit the town. I remember so many nights on the town filled with guys striking out who would have no problems with the view that only losers pay for sex. Allot of these guys get so broken inside from not getting any action that they end up releasing their testosterone on other men through confrontation. Bruised egos looking to save face in their own manly ways at the end of the night.

Some could go for weeks without a nightlife party one night stand hookup where the amount of money spent with no payoff goes way up. Even guys in relationships with certain boundaries who are not full on chasing women to get laid are going out with crews of guy friends to take in all the views at a price. Without all the attractive female views bars and clubs would be going out of business unless its a gay bar or club.

They say that they would never pay for sex but are back once again blowing money on the town looking for action. Tempted by the crowds of sorcerous women who dress up or undress to impress.

Yo man. You a simp bitch for paying to go straight to the bedroom. I put in hard work dawg. You just cheating! So what if I spend hundreds or thousands a month gaming pussy on the town. At least I aint paying for sex like a simp bitch!

I know guys where spending $300 + is a normal night out on the town. I know guys that bitch about the money they spend when it comes to date nights. I pay for this, I pay for that. I see all these too cool to pay for sex guys bitching about money when most of their bitching is created by their sexual wants and desires.

Do you want to see a depressed boyfriend or husband? = a streak of dinner dates without any payoff. What did you think was going to happen brad? You expected a bj for taking me out to denny's for the 3rd time in a row? You better take me someplace classy next time! Also I am allergic to semen so releasing in my mouth is out of the question. Swallowing? Ooh god NO! You want to cum on my face? Eeew. eat my ass? Anal? Are you fucked in the head?

I know not all women are like this but how can you truly explore when more times then not its an uphill battle to even experience your wants and desires when it comes to what turns you or her on. Paying to go right to the mutual sexual agreements with a provider gets passed all the swamp that so many have to tread through. The last thing I want is to be married to a woman I love that has lost her fire in the bedroom. That outcome would drive me nuts. All these inner insecurities would take over and I would start thinking I am not good enough for her. Especially if she blocked us from getting together sexually for a long enough period. If I found out that she was secretly riding a big cock dildo instead of riding me I would be devastated.

So far I am lucky to be free of that. I dont have to play games. I dont have to fill my mind with unwanted stress or drama. I dont have to chase. I dont have to sit at the dinner table and talk about our day.
No what did you do today conversations. No how was work today conversations. No fake comments about how good her meatloaf tastes. No watching reruns of mad about you. Straight to point. Set game match. On to the next one for another game of pleasures.

You bought that expensive flashy car for yourself but also to impress females?
I am sorry to break it to you but you have just paid for sex.

 

[JimDandy]

I've never gotten anything close to that vibe from a provider, but I've gotten it from civilian women.

Seeing providers is what gave me the confidence to pursue a relationship, but having seen providers seems to have disqualified me from dating - at the very least, it's been an issue that torpedoed every relationship I've pursued. So it's a Catch-22.

Simple. Don't let women who you pursue in a relationship know you see/ have seen SPs.

JD

 

[mr.idoks]

Everyone pays in some way shape or form.

There is a never ending list of party guys who think they are too good looking to pay for sexual encounters but chase women while spending hundreds when they hit the town. I remember so many nights on the town filled with guys striking out who would have no problems with the view that only losers pay for sex. Allot of these guys get so broken inside from not getting any action that they end up releasing their testosterone on other men through confrontation. Bruised egos looking to save face in their own manly ways at the end of the night.

Some could go for weeks without a nightlife party one night stand hookup where the amount of money spent with no payoff goes way up. Even guys in relationships with certain boundaries who are not full on chasing women to get laid are going out with crews of guy friends to take in all the views at a price. Without all the attractive female views bars and clubs would be going out of business unless its a gay bar or club.

They say that they would never pay for sex but are back once again blowing money on the town looking for action. Tempted by the crowds of sorcerous women who dress up or undress to impress.

Yo man. You a simp bitch for paying to go straight to the bedroom. I put in hard work dawg. You just cheating! So what if I spend hundreds or thousands a month gaming pussy on the town. At least I aint paying for sex like a simp bitch!

I know guys where spending $300 + is a normal night out on the town. I know guys that bitch about the money they spend when it comes to date nights. I pay for this, I pay for that. I see all these too cool to pay for sex guys bitching about money when most of their bitching is created by their sexual wants and desires.

Do you want to see a depressed boyfriend or husband? = a streak of dinner dates without any payoff. What did you think was going to happen brad? You expected a bj for taking me out to denny's for the 3rd time in a row? You better take me someplace classy next time! Also I am allergic to semen so releasing in my mouth is out of the question. Swallowing? Ooh god NO! You want to cum on my face? Eeew. eat my ass? Anal? Are you fucked in the head?

I know not all women are like this but how can you truly explore when more times then not its an uphill battle to even experience your wants and desires when it comes to what turns you or her on. Paying to go right to the mutual sexual agreements with a provider gets passed all the swamp that so many have to tread through. The last thing I want is to be married to a woman I love that has lost her fire in the bedroom. That outcome would drive me nuts. All these inner insecurities would take over and I would start thinking I am not good enough for her. Especially if she blocked us from getting together sexually for a long enough period. If I found out that she was secretly riding a big cock dildo instead of riding me I would be devastated.

So far I am lucky to be free of that. I dont have to play games. I dont have to fill my mind with unwanted stress or drama. I dont have to chase. I dont have to sit at the dinner table and talk about our day.
No what did you do today conversations. No how was work today conversations. No fake comments about how good her meatloaf tastes. No watching reruns of mad about you. Straight to point. Set game match. On to the next one for another game of pleasures.

You bought that expensive flashy car for yourself but also to impress females?
I am sorry to break it to you but you have just paid for sex.

guys on here like to say this, but theres guys who can just go on dating apps and have girls come over, have sex, and leave for free. those same guys can do that with girls they meet irl. going out to the bar/club doesnt need to be $300 and if you are well connected socially with a good network it can often be a free night on town even for guys, or atleast way cheaper than $300. when i was in university I could manage to go out to the club with like $15 in my bank account and still would get laid sometimes. , and house parties etc are free. going to the beach is free. meeting a girl out and about is free . lots of free ways to get laid if you are either good looking, confident , or have rizz. even without those things, most guys can get laid for free atleast on occasion.

if your gonna go as far as anytime you spend money on something or going somewhere its "paying for sex" then alot of girls are paying men for sex aswell 😂

does my gym membership that gives me a body that attracts girls count as paying for sex by your logic?

its alot of excuses man, like yeah if your simping large on dates and stuff with a girl who wouldnt sleep with you unless you were simping then thats not far off from hiring an escort. but you are going to the extremes to make excuses bro.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

guys on here like to say this, but theres guys who can just go on dating apps and have girls come over, have sex, and leave for free. those same guys can do that with girls they meet irl. going out to the bar/club doesnt need to be $300 and if you are well connected socially with a good network it can often be a free night on town even for guys, or atleast way cheaper than $300. when i was in university I could manage to go out to the club with like $15 in my bank account and still would get laid sometimes. , and house parties etc are free. going to the beach is free. meeting a girl out and about is free . lots of free ways to get laid if you are either good looking, confident , or have rizz. even without those things, most guys can get laid for free atleast on occasion.

if your gonna go as far as anytime you spend money on something or going somewhere its "paying for sex" then alot of girls are paying men for sex aswell 😂

does my gym membership that gives me a body that attracts girls count as paying for sex by your logic?

its alot of excuses man, like yeah if your simping large on dates and stuff with a girl who wouldnt sleep with you unless you were simping then thats not far off from hiring an escort. but you are going to the extremes to make excuses bro.

My god you should be putting on seminars helping out the brotherhood!!

 

[mr.idoks]

My god you should be putting on seminars helping out the brotherhood!!

according to this guys logic tho, girls have paid me tons of money to have sex with them! guess im an escort now!

 

[dare.devil]

according to this guys logic tho, girls have paid me tons of money to have sex with them! guess im an escort now!

hahaha, thats a weird logic for me as well, everything in life is not just about being laid or attract others. There is a thing called "self love" as well. For example, I love my gym more than any women, can even cancel a session or date to hit it lol.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

according to this guys logic tho, girls have paid me tons of money to have sex with them! guess im an escort now!

I guess the humour went by you.
All good!!

 

[mr.idoks]

I guess the humour went by you.
All good!!

I guess the humour went by you! all good!!

 

[AMG-GTR]

My 2 cents that nobody asked for.


PART 1


Men that are able to pull beautiful woman are revered. A man that can’t get a mate is a loser. This is evolutionary, biologically, and societally.

Facts don’t care about feelings.


Money is not a replacement for a man’s character, social status, charm, charisma etc. I’ve seen guys with millions and they’re still losers that can only find woman that are using them for their bank account. Or there are guys that think that because they are a surgeon, have a powerful position, or have money, that it somehow gives them the right to operate and behave poorly.

Again, money is an amplifier only.

Extremely beautiful woman (high social status/family etc) may only seek out a wealthy suitor but the financial success is just a qualifier. The man still has to been funny, interesting, smart, physically attractive etc.

If you have no other choice other than to pay to get pussy, then yes, you’re a loser. Get your shit together.

Tip: work on yourself and improve who you are to the sexual marketplace.



PART 2



Whoever this bimbo is that said. “Only losers pay for pussy” without any other comments, is clearly speaking irrationally out of anger.

I’ve paid for pussy for many reasons. Some of my girlfriends have accidentally happened from encounters with these woman.

I started going for the thrill of it, and later it was a way to avoid getting me too’d. The culture here supports a woman making retroactive bogus claims even after she begged to spend the night.

It’s also much more economical from a time-value perspective.

Others may engage for more nefarious reasons such as they are able to pull woman but are married, or they’re in the public eye and don’t want to catch heat.


PART 3


Everything is paid for. Time, gifts, dinner, etc. I laughed when my friend said he would never dream of paying for sex because he was too proud. I kindly reminded him that the new G63 he got his wife negates his commentary.

 

[mr.idoks]

My 2 cents that nobody asked for.


PART 1


Men that are able to pull beautiful woman are revered. A man that can’t get a mate is a loser. This is evolutionary, biologically, and societally.

Facts don’t care about feelings.


Money is not a replacement for a man’s character, social status, charm, charisma etc. I’ve seen guys with millions and they’re still losers that can only find woman that are using them for their bank account. Or there are guys that think that because they are a surgeon, have a powerful position, or have money, that it somehow gives them the right to operate and behave poorly.

Again, money is an amplifier only.

Extremely beautiful woman (high social status/family etc) may only seek out a wealthy suitor but the financial success is just a qualifier. The man still has to been funny, interesting, smart, physically attractive etc.

If you have no other choice other than to pay to get pussy, then yes, you’re a loser. Get your shit together.

Tip: work on yourself and improve who you are to the sexual marketplace.



PART 2



Whoever this bimbo is that said. “Only losers pay for pussy” without any other comments, is clearly speaking irrationally out of anger.

I’ve paid for pussy for many reasons. Some of my girlfriends have accidentally happened from encounters with these woman.

I started going for the thrill of it, and later it was a way to avoid getting me too’d. The culture here supports a woman making retroactive bogus claims even after she begged to spend the night.

It’s also much more economical from a time-value perspective.

Others may engage for more nefarious reasons such as they are able to pull woman but are married, or they’re in the public eye and don’t want to catch heat.


PART 3


Everything is paid for. Time, gifts, dinner, etc. I laughed when my friend said he would never dream of paying for sex because he was too proud. I kindly reminded him that the new G63 he got his wife negates his commentary.

I pretty much agree with all of this except part 3.

id add, if you think you have a deep connection with the SP and have a special bond but are still paying , you are a loser also.

 

[ModSquad]

I think this thread is going into wrong directions, It was about providers but turned out to be mothers are brought to the central point of discussion.

Me too.

What started as a “loser’s who pay for sex” is now talking about mommy issues.

And people gripe about when Mods lock threads. This is a good example.

Tell you what if you can get this back on track I’ll just let it be.

 

[maniacalone]

My 2 cents that nobody asked for.


PART 1


Men that are able to pull beautiful woman are revered. A man that can’t get a mate is a loser. This is evolutionary, biologically, and societally.

Facts don’t care about feelings.


Money is not a replacement for a man’s character, social status, charm, charisma etc. I’ve seen guys with millions and they’re still losers that can only find woman that are using them for their bank account. Or there are guys that think that because they are a surgeon, have a powerful position, or have money, that it somehow gives them the right to operate and behave poorly.

Again, money is an amplifier only.

Extremely beautiful woman (high social status/family etc) may only seek out a wealthy suitor but the financial success is just a qualifier. The man still has to been funny, interesting, smart, physically attractive etc.

If you have no other choice other than to pay to get pussy, then yes, you’re a loser. Get your shit together.

Tip: work on yourself and improve who you are to the sexual marketplace.



PART 2



Whoever this bimbo is that said. “Only losers pay for pussy” without any other comments, is clearly speaking irrationally out of anger.

I’ve paid for pussy for many reasons. Some of my girlfriends have accidentally happened from encounters with these woman.

I started going for the thrill of it, and later it was a way to avoid getting me too’d. The culture here supports a woman making retroactive bogus claims even after she begged to spend the night.

It’s also much more economical from a time-value perspective.

Others may engage for more nefarious reasons such as they are able to pull woman but are married, or they’re in the public eye and don’t want to catch heat.


PART 3


Everything is paid for. Time, gifts, dinner, etc. I laughed when my friend said he would never dream of paying for sex because he was too proud. I kindly reminded him that the new G63 he got his wife negates his commentary.

I am reluctant to respond on a alpha male take offered by a man using a 200 thousand dollar car name as his escort profile handle. If you lead with money in your handle, I can’t even picture how you roll in the real world.

I digress.

I will agree on your two cents worth of the three listed points being valid.
I’d add a fourth saying there is a growing group of men who can get women with charisma, looks and their socio economic status. In spite of all this they still choose to engage in this world of transactional dating because the laws play too big a part in incentivising female behaviours, so a man must be certain in choosing a woman. If she lives with him two to three years she gains common law rights. If he marries her and has kids, even worse because family law is ungodly and gives women the whip hand over all men if he chooses poorly.