Paris @SVIP
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Visited her last week. Will not repeat.
she is beautiful and sweet but zero enthusiasm. I definitely did not get the services I expected.
Yes she is young, and NEW - so please do manage your expectations.
I know that this week we have already had at least 50% of her first-time visitors prebook her for a second visit - so ...
Yes everyone connects differently.
I will say here are a few things that popped up in sessions this week that were not enjoyable and a friendly reminder regardless of who you are seeing and where.
1) Do not try to stick ANYTHING in a provider's butt without concent or permission - this behavior will get you a time out with any of the SVIPS. - Anal digits is an xxx-tra menu item,
for those who provide it, communication and donation MUST be discussed before "going there".
2) IF you are on the larger size (long or width) going all the way out and SLAMMING hard in - it is usually quite painful for most providers - the provider will let you know if this is the case. Every provider is
different in regards to what sizes they can handle. We always communicate to pros in our mentoring and orientation that they should NEVER feel like they have to grin and bare it,
if something hurts - communicate - the clients we like to service are respectful and conscious of not wanting to hurt someone - no matter how good it feels for them.
From my experience Pairs has the makings of an absolute SUPER STAR - but she is new and she is young - if you are looking for a polished experienced provider - give it a month or so
don't try booking in the first week - keep in mind that the more experienced providers tend to have higher rates as well
I know that this week we have already had at least 50% of her first-time visitors prebook her for a second visit - so ...
Yes everyone connects differently.
I will say here are a few things that popped up in sessions this week that were not enjoyable and a friendly reminder regardless of who you are seeing and where.
1) Do not try to stick ANYTHING in a provider's butt without concent or permission - this behavior will get you a time out with any of the SVIPS. - Anal digits is an xxx-tra menu item,
for those who provide it, communication and donation MUST be discussed before "going there".
2) IF you are on the larger size (long or width) going all the way out and SLAMMING hard in - it is usually quite painful for most providers - the provider will let you know if this is the case. Every provider is
different in regards to what sizes they can handle. We always communicate to pros in our mentoring and orientation that they should NEVER feel like they have to grin and bare it,
if something hurts - communicate - the clients we like to service are respectful and conscious of not wanting to hurt someone - no matter how good it feels for them.
From my experience Pairs has the makings of an absolute SUPER STAR - but she is new and she is young - if you are looking for a polished experienced provider - give it a month or so
don't try booking in the first week - keep in mind that the more experienced providers tend to have higher rates as well
Yes she is young, and NEW - so please do manage your expectations.
I know that this week we have already had at least 50% of her first-time visitors prebook her for a second visit - so ...
Yes everyone connects differently.
I will say here are a few things that popped up in sessions this week that were not enjoyable and a friendly reminder regardless of who you are seeing and where.
1) Do not try to stick ANYTHING in a provider's butt without concent or permission - this behavior will get you a time out with any of the SVIPS. - Anal digits is an xxx-tra menu item,
for those who provide it, communication and donation MUST be discussed before "going there".
2) IF you are on the larger size (long or width) going all the way out and SLAMMING hard in - it is usually quite painful for most providers - the provider will let you know if this is the case. Every provider is
different in regards to what sizes they can handle. We always communicate to pros in our mentoring and orientation that they should NEVER feel like they have to grin and bare it,
if something hurts - communicate - the clients we like to service are respectful and conscious of not wanting to hurt someone - no matter how good it feels for them.
From my experience Pairs has the makings of an absolute SUPER STAR - but she is new and she is young - if you are looking for a polished experienced provider - give it a month or so
don't try booking in the first week - keep in mind that the more experienced providers tend to have higher rates as well
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Well put Ms H. I don't know what you all were expecting!! She's very young and tiny!!
Book a hour with her and try to get a vibe.
You have to remember not all of you are her age.
Can you even relate!! Read her bio get to know her show her what gentleman are!!! So yes she's probably shy most of us are her dads age and not that's bad but if your not in shape smelling good and all trimmed up,like in the real world wouldn't give you a Second look. You all want to see her because of the fact she is young and tiny but expecting she's a pro. How we all treat her will determine her ability. It's all ymmv here boys.
I've booked with her and will prove all so far wrong
Funny story - She saw someone today who was XL MAG (in fact even that size was tight) they did all the positions - had an amazing time - it included A LOT of communication, respect and taking it slow -
he said he would pop online and write a review - we will see if he does. There are ladies who have the "size restriction" as part of their menu - Paris doesn't feel she needs to add that ... yet - BUT keep in mind
for all providers, if there isn't a connection if things feel awkward - as women our bodies (vaginas) somewhat tighten/dry up - when we are relaxed / enjoying ourselves - they loosen up and fluids come naturally...
Sorry, LongPole - my reply wasn't targeted at you - often we don't know who the Perb name is with the "client name" you have given us - BUT she did feel that she had great sessions with everyone with the exception of the
two experiences mentioned. The SLAMMING client - actually got cut 10min short and a chat about respecting boundaries - he left unhappy - we mentioned when someone says something hurts, let's try this... and
you keep going back to doing the thing that hurts... well the reality is the ladies (and the clients) can pull a mulligan and cut a session short whenever it's not a good connection.
I am sorry it wasn't a great connection overall - and yes that is something we should ALL keep in mind our experiences differ, but they are our own to have and share.
I have seen COUNTLESS times where clients say - oof not the girl for me, but end up connecting with another pro where yet another client had said "oof not the girl for me".
It happens on the other side of the fence too - one pro's fav client - is another pro's least fav client. WHEN there is a connection, the sex is 100x better -
that's why when you find someone you click with, repeating sessions always get better each and every time.
As always we appreciate your feedback. but fair warning of the pros and cons of these reviews....
I will say - that there was a long-time regular who read these reviews and canceled his appointment last minute today because of them-
thankfully a client who already had met Paris earlier in the week (and also uses a Magnium) jumped in on that opportunity of her schedule opening and is currently having what sounds like
an amazing time with her right now. The client who canceled realized IMMEDIATELY that he had made a mistake and tried to rebook with her for tomorrow -
unfortunately, Paris was a little hurt and offended at the last min. cancelation and is willing to see him but has asked for a few weeks to "get over it" as she didn't want to come across as salty
and not provide the best service possible to this client. (she's new and getting used to the fact that anyone can write whatever they want for the whole world to see and that others will base their choice to see her or not on it).
As mentioned - I've been doing this a LONG ass time - I have a knack for knowing who is going to be a great provider and who is not - I don't typically work with the "nots" - but that's not to say
that EVERY client - and every PRO are going to click and have an amazing mind-blowing experience. I've also been DEAD wrong - I'm not perfect, but I have a pretty steller track record
- also people I have thought to be amazing providers have sometimes burned out and stayed in the industry past their time. As a group we are ALWAYS open to constructive criticism,
whether it be a newbie or an experienced pro. As a group, we are always striving to provide our best. Thats why I spend about 8 hours with every single new to business pro that is promoted by SweetVIPS.com / CNDPROS.com
We are dedicated to having a trusted brand name - and have been building that in Victoria (and Vancouver / Calgary / Edmonton) for the past 15 years.
These experiences that we share - they are subject to many things - and just because someone is a PRO = doesn't guarantee you are going to have an amazing time with them.
Communiation, respect are important - but even if you both bring that to the table, sometimes we do and say things that are perceived differently than intended. Its a simple fact that there will
not always be an instant connection - even with the best intentions of both parties.
( *) (* ) - ms.H
Paris cancelled my appointment as I am "hard to please and ... doesn't want to risk rating" and " reviews work both ways". And I have never seen her before, just of note. Cancelation was based on the styke of reviews I post here 🤣
That's totally understandable, no problem, but I have to mention the above feedback here.
Will give svips a try maybe one more time with someone else from their list, before removing svips from my radar.
Yes I mentioned before and I agree, I am quite capricious and spoiled by very high standards from elsewhere, so yes, I agree, I am hard to please. And yes, I am a bit on a bigger scale of sizes... so who knows how that would have worked... don't want to cause pain or damage anyone
That's totally understandable, no problem, but I have to mention the above feedback here.
Will give svips a try maybe one more time with someone else from their list, before removing svips from my radar.
Yes I mentioned before and I agree, I am quite capricious and spoiled by very high standards from elsewhere, so yes, I agree, I am hard to please
. And yes, I am a bit on a bigger scale of sizes... so who knows how that would have worked... don't want to cause pain or damage anyone
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Among the best things a provider can do is cancel or not make an appointment with someone who they do not feel they can provide an excellent experience. Rather than take the money and not deliver what one desires they have saved you the time and expense so that you can move to a provider who is better suited to delivering what you are seeking. I have stated in the past my belief that VIP's is a wonderful service provider (not just compared to others in the fantasy industry) in their professionalism and the respect they show both workers and clients.
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This is actually a very good and fair move, better cancel than doubt if service can be delivered or, worse, know that service cannot be provided and still proceed.
So , I totally agree, in this situation, Paris made a respectful, logical and a fair move! I don't feel bad or sad, I feel actually good, somehow.
Yes i had mostly misses with svips and their rating system when booking an appointment is not what i am a big fan of, but, in general, as an agency, it is quite reasonable, so that's why I would like to give it another chance/ try.
And yes, I am very spoiled, and it's good there are agencies and ladies to choose from. Hopefully, a healthy competition will smoothen this hobby, especially, with new Eastern Europe immigration waves 🤣
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I'm hesitant to post public reviews for this reason. And why I PM'd ThickAF instead. You could be friendly, reasonable and someone could still say you're hard to work with.Paris cancelled my appointment as I am "hard to please and ... doesn't want to risk rating" and " reviews work both ways".
That's totally understandable, no problem, but I have to mention the above feedback here.
Will give svips a try maybe one more time with someone else from their list, before removing svips from my radar.
Yes I mentioned before and I agree, I am quite capricious and spoiled by very high standards from elsewhere, so yes, I agree, I am hard to please
My experience with SVIPs has been VERY hit or miss which I hate to say because Ms. Harvi works hard and is quite accommodating. I get that what happens behind closed doors she has to give benefit of the doubt to her girls, not the clients. Obviously she has to look after and protect her girls.
That said Paris is gorgeous, and nice enough. Though I would not repeat. I think some of you that have or will see her will understand why pretty quickly.
Funny we ask how she was!! More of what are you expecting!! If your just gunna do nothing than don't expect much..spend a hour with her.. talk to her connect with her. She a beautiful extremely smart lady.do you all forget she's 19!!! You all put a lot of pressure on sp/mp for what we pay for a beautiful young tight bodied lady. Why do you want to book with her? Cause she beautiful very young and petite and a fuckin ass on her!!! I mean OMG bounce a quarter off it. So what are you expecting?? Your lucky to just sit in a room and talk with her for what paid. But not just Paris but all ladies will let it go further. If your wanting more than you should put in some effort and not rely on her to.were all different here guys. All have different bodies different smells different energy.
I wasn't going to review about Paris as I could be happy keeping her to myself..
It's a truly ymmv situation I guess.im no where near her age but I had a great time with her.
I read her bio saw we had some in common.
So we had something to chat about.
Made her laugh, made her feel comfortable, made her feel safe. What was played out or what we did is between me and her. Because me and her are different from you and her. So ya your lucky you can even be infront of a such a beautiful young smoke show. And if she'll let you put your dick in
Be happy with that as your really not paying that much.if she lacks enthusiasm, it's on you!
That goes for any lady. I will say I found her very sweet,she was maybe a bit shy at first as she could feel that I was.. but it was more intimidation
how and the hell am I gunna get this young beautiful lady off.. it was a perfect hour and booked the next as I walked out the door..
Can't wait to see her again as it'll be even better
Wow, dude, maybe we have to start paying escorts, just coz they exist, in general, as humans ?
it is a two way road. I got a cancelled appointment coz she felt uncomfortable with my descriptive anatomistic style of reviews and coz I am kinda high standard guy, based on previous experiences from the past lives and continents.Of note. I have never seen her, was not rude, demanding etc to any svip or any other agency ladies, just a mismatch with this one based on her virtual information gathering. I get that.
ThickAF is asking for details, and when too many, but reasonable details for the purpose of this forum are delivered some ladies get upset. I am not here to listen a generic "we had fun", I want technical descriptive details to understand if I am a match with a lady. It is not about money, it is about wasting my time.
And we are so happy for you that you are such a gentleman and you are thinking that ladies have to be paid just coz they looked at you and that you are instructing everybody, how much time minimum they have to spend with a lady etc. You are an unreachable example to all of us... I am sarcastic of coz. Do your business, we are happy you connected and found the one, but instructing others on obvious things.... most of us are not 15 here, just to tell you the secret
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That's exactly what I'm saying Chachi..cause ya going from a guy like me to someone with your high caliber is hard from them.i was saying that everyone has had some negative feelings about her. But I didn't.. it was cause I, un like you, can connect and have the greatest of time with any lady I see and that they want to see me again . Can you hahaha ..your right tho. You wouldn't have had a good time with Paris.. I'm glad you didn't experienced her beauty..everyone else!! Take the time work for the reward..Bring your A game.Wow, dude, maybe we have to start paying escorts, just coz they exist, in general, as humans ?
Of note. I have never seen her, was not rude, demanding etc to any svip or any other agency ladies, just a mismatch with this one based on her virtual information gathering. I get that.
ThickAF is asking for details, and when too many, but reasonable details for the purpose of this forum are delivered some ladies get upset. I am not here to listen a generic "we had fun", I want technical descriptive details to understand if I am a match with a lady. It is not about money, it is about wasting my time.
And we are so happy for you that you are such a gentleman and you are thinking that ladies have to be paid just coz they looked at you and that you are instructing everybody, how much time minimum they have to spend with a lady etc. You are an unreachable example to all of us... I am sarcastic of coz. Do your business, we are happy you connected and found the one, but instructing others on obvious things.... most of us are not 15 here, just to tell you the secret
Two way street their her obligation is complete
When they close the door and hit the timer.
))) I am jelous now that you can connect to almost any lady, at least at the agencies, you are much happier than me, for sure, no sarcasm. It is unique, undoubtedly, to be as flexible and as free of any judgements and assessments as you are. You are right, sometimes, high standards make you a prisoner of those standards, and finally less happy in life. So agree with you on that!.I don't know what slang meaning you are implying with Chachi, but it is what you are thinking of yourself and how you position yourself, if you are happy just to have a smile from a SP and ready to pay for that, fine. Your choice.
I have a reasonable self esteem to want much more that either it is for free or not. If it is not for free, it is mainly a time saver for me, I can get it for free np anyways. And if you can get girls for free this means your self esteem is not that far from reality. Anyways, I clearly don't agree with your kinda low self esteem, self humiliation position and frank romantisation of SPs. It is a two way road as you said, you try to be good and please them when you can, not only with money, but with a gentleman behavior and you expect same back, including them looking impeccable as this is a part of the business.
When a builder builds a so so house, do you say we r all humans thats ok? When a dentist doesnt quite fix your teeth when other dentists could, do you say, or its ok, we are all humans? Or if a dentist cannot do the job coz his/her/ze/xo etc right hand doesnt function.. do yiu say, oh it's ok, we are all humans and have defects... i bet you dint, i bet you expect that dentist to be fully operational with brain and hands to fix your teeth the best way possible, it a nature of the biz and service provided. Same with escorts, yes you nay choose a so so lady, but, most clients want a very stunning lady, by looks and skills, coz thats how the biz is.
If you are in service industry, one expects certain product delivery for.money paid and yes, dentists and builders don't only service young and athletic men like some of us are haha.
See you expect the runner to run and a hockey player to kick the puck well... escorting is like special type of sport, you do your part, be nice, clean, respectful and a gentleman, and you expect same back, effort, involvement, yes, real, not photoshoped photos, yes, if someone tells you the SP is cute, sge should be cute or better beautiful by all standards from Arctics to Antarctics, no questions asked etc.
Are you also going to dentists' forums and share your sweet excitement that they exist and provide public service? I guess not. We are in Canada, not the best, but far from worst places in the world for the escort services to exist. It is a service and it is a business, it is not free, it is reasonable, clients and SPs not necessarily click, but if service is good, service is good. I would share your irrational screaming excitement if all SPs would be super models, 10x less the price and it would be regarded as some sort of social work commitment, but, I am sorry, I don't understand your position, like one or the other party owes something to each other.it is money-service relationship and to make it pleasant, both players should do their part. Clients be clean, be gentlemen, and gift appropriately. SPs look impeccable and beautiful as per most national/international beauty standards, have appropriate skills, effort and enthusiasm. If something cannot be met, it should be clearly stated, as in my case with Paris and svips.
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"your lucky you can even be infront of a such a beautiful young"
That depends on who you are. Some are in front of them outside of the provider world.
They can put a smile on my face when you see them first open the door and their hot but if the fun and passion is missing you won't think about them 2 weeks later at least I won't.
I remember seeing Darla her first week, she was super new but also super into it trying her best to impress and make sure my needs were taken care of not just probably the best ass and stomach in the city.
This world is full of people with different dynamics and personalities. Some would just love a hot girl to talk to others want a passionate sweaty romp getting down and dirty.
That depends on who you are. Some are in front of them outside of the provider world.
They can put a smile on my face when you see them first open the door and their hot but if the fun and passion is missing you won't think about them 2 weeks later at least I won't.
I remember seeing Darla her first week, she was super new but also super into it trying her best to impress and make sure my needs were taken care of not just probably the best ass and stomach in the city.
This world is full of people with different dynamics and personalities. Some would just love a hot girl to talk to others want a passionate sweaty romp getting down and dirty.
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