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VERNON RIP OFF ALERT

SlipperyNoodle

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New to the forum. Joined a couple days ago and glad I did so I can try and warn some others in the Vernon area.
Girl: Kandii - 3811
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I was somewhat sceptical when booking that it was a bait and switch but it was much worse I got ripped off totally. Gives me an address and says go down the side of the house and she is in the basement. I roll up and there is some fat girl talking to some guy in a silver Ford Escape SUV out front. I park a couple houses down and walk over and neither even look at me so figure it’s fine. I go down the side of the house, I knock and go on in. Some major crack head whore is there with her tits all the way out. For sure bait and switch. She had a nice body but mangled face… I say whatever… I’ve come this far why not lol.. I hand her $250 and she says she will BRB she has to drop the money with her friend, I say ok. I stay inside and notice there is a camera recording me… now I’m creeped out. I start waking to the door and as I am, the fat girl walks in and yells at me “what the fuck are you still doing here asshole?!?” I tell her the girl told me to wait here. Fat girls tells me to get the fuck out and go to Tiki hotel and go to room 109. I politely tell her to go fuck herself and I leave. At this point I’m 100% sure I got ripped off but for shits and giggles I drive over there. Can’t see a room 109. Totally got ripped off. Lucky for me I’m like 6’4 and 250lbs cause I wouldn’t be surprised if smaller men were getting robbed by force too. Have fun robbing me by force! I heard people upstairs thumping around and it was very dark there. Anyways… I have the girls address who kicked me out and she was CLEARLY in on it but I don’t actually care enough to do anything about it. They will cross the wrong person one day and get it. In all my years… that’s the first time I was actually ripped off completely like that.
 

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New to the forum. Joined a couple days ago and glad I did so I can try and warn some others in the Vernon area.
Girl: Kandii - 3811
Ad:
https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...elicious_and_unforgetable-7202109?source=list

I was somewhat sceptical when booking that it was a bait and switch but it was much worse I got ripped off totally. Gives me an address and says go down the side of the house and she is in the basement. I roll up and there is some fat girl talking to some guy in a silver Ford Escape SUV out front. I park a couple houses down and walk over and neither even look at me so figure it’s fine. I go down the side of the house, I knock and go on in. Some major crack head whore is there with her tits all the way out. For sure bait and switch. She had a nice body but mangled face… I say whatever… I’ve come this far why not lol.. I hand her $250 and she says she will BRB she has to drop the money with her friend, I say ok. I stay inside and notice there is a camera recording me… now I’m creeped out. I start waking to the door and as I am, the fat girl walks in and yells at me “what the fuck are you still doing here asshole?!?” I tell her the girl told me to wait here. Fat girls tells me to get the fuck out and go to Tiki hotel and go to room 109. I politely tell her to go fuck herself and I leave. At this point I’m 100% sure I got ripped off but for shits and giggles I drive over there. Can’t see a room 109. Totally got ripped off. Lucky for me I’m like 6’4 and 250lbs cause I wouldn’t be surprised if smaller men were getting robbed by force too. Have fun robbing me by force! I heard people upstairs thumping around and it was very dark there. Anyways… I have the girls address who kicked me out and she was CLEARLY in on it but I don’t actually care enough to do anything about it. They will cross the wrong person one day and get it. In all my years… that’s the first time I was actually ripped off completely like that.
Was it this address? Doing some research here might have saved you some trouble....
https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/vernon-ripoff.316665/
 
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SlipperyNoodle

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well are you gonna go to the cops?

Sorry that happened to you.
Nah cops won’t do nothing. It’s their word against mine and it’s not like you can force someone to have sex with you because you give them money. Cops will probably tell me it’s a civil matter and to sue them or something lol
 

SlipperyNoodle

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It’s a ballsy scam. Did you get suckered into the special?!?

Vernon is the worst. Scammers and crackheads.
Nah, figured that was a BS deal plus after I finish I usually just want to leave because 75% of the women I’ve seen are terrible anyways and my brain starts working again after I’m done lol
 

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She might be going by Lola now in Vernon. Her email says kandi and phone 3811. Too much of a coincidence for me. Not worth the risk. Plus her photos look like fakes.
 
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New to the forum. Joined a couple days ago and glad I did so I can try and warn some others in the Vernon area.
Girl: Kandii - 3811
Ad:
https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...elicious_and_unforgetable-7202109?source=list

I was somewhat sceptical when booking that it was a bait and switch but it was much worse I got ripped off totally. Gives me an address and says go down the side of the house and she is in the basement. I roll up and there is some fat girl talking to some guy in a silver Ford Escape SUV out front. I park a couple houses down and walk over and neither even look at me so figure it’s fine. I go down the side of the house, I knock and go on in. Some major crack head whore is there with her tits all the way out. For sure bait and switch. She had a nice body but mangled face… I say whatever… I’ve come this far why not lol.. I hand her $250 and she says she will BRB she has to drop the money with her friend, I say ok. I stay inside and notice there is a camera recording me… now I’m creeped out. I start waking to the door and as I am, the fat girl walks in and yells at me “what the fuck are you still doing here asshole?!?” I tell her the girl told me to wait here. Fat girls tells me to get the fuck out and go to Tiki hotel and go to room 109. I politely tell her to go fuck herself and I leave. At this point I’m 100% sure I got ripped off but for shits and giggles I drive over there. Can’t see a room 109. Totally got ripped off. Lucky for me I’m like 6’4 and 250lbs cause I wouldn’t be surprised if smaller men were getting robbed by force too. Have fun robbing me by force! I heard people upstairs thumping around and it was very dark there. Anyways… I have the girls address who kicked me out and she was CLEARLY in on it but I don’t actually care enough to do anything about it. They will cross the wrong person one day and get it. In all my years… that’s the first time I was actually ripped off completely like that.
I thought usually scammers are young in age, turns out it is a first time older 39 year old scammer. Got to be careful even with the old SPs it looks like. I would say just drive 40 mins to Kelowna even of it takes you ⛽. Better off going to agencies as long as you are OK with cbj escorts. For bbbj escorts, there are limited ones out there like Raia, Gemma Star etc.
 

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I thought usually scammers are young in age, turns out it is a first time older 39 year old scammer. Got to be careful even with the old SPs it looks like. I would say just drive 40 mins to Kelowna even of it takes you ⛽. Better off going to agencies as long as you are OK with cbj escorts. For bbbj escorts, there are limited ones out there like Raia, Gemma Star etc.
39yo, who even sees SPs older than 33 years old max? lmao :)
 
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39yo, who even sees SPs older than 33 years old max? lmao :)
lol! I do agree that most dudes will not see an older SP. As a dude in my early 30s, I have seen women their early 40s only because of good service due to positive reviews. Also, when I was in the US, where it is hard to find verified escorts even more, I have seen early 40s women.
 
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39yo, who even sees SPs older than 33 years old max? lmao :)
Also for some reason, I have found more women that I have experience with in their 30s and 40s more enjoy sex, compared to women in their 20s, who are in this business more due to the money. Offcourse, there are 20 year olds, I have been with who love sex, and older women in their 30s and 40s who are in it for the money. Just stating majority of my experiences. I personally love being with women of all races & nationalities between the age of 20 minimum to 45 maximum, whether they be lean, slim, athletics, curvy, bbw, thick ones. Provided they have good past reviews. Also, location matter too. When I am in Vancover, GTA, Montreal, I am more picky of who I see, but when I am in Kelowna, as long as she has good reviews and within my age-limit, I am good. In Kelowna, I am hesitant to see Asian Straight-From-China SPs, due to seeing that there pics on the add, don't match when you actually see them. I am pretty sure there could be legit Asian SPs in Kelowna though just couldn't find them. By the way, this applies to women of all nationalities/ethnicities who use fake pics not just Asian ones. For Asian SPs, I will just go to Vancouver.
 
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altay

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Also for some reason, I have found more women that I have experience with in their 30s and 40s more enjoy sex, compared to women in their 20s, who are in this business more due to the money. Of course, there are 20 year olds, I have been with who love sex, and older women in their 30s and 40s who are in it for the money. Just stating majority of my experiences. I personally love being with women of all races & nationalities between the age of 20 minimum to 45 maximum, whether they be lean, slim, athletics, curvy, bbw, thick ones. Provided they have good past reviews. Also, location matter too. When I am in Vancover, GTA, Montreal, I am more picky of who I see, but when I am in Kelowna, as long as she has good reviews and within my age-limit, I am good. In Kelowna, I am hesitant to see Asian Straight-From-China SPs, due to seeing that there pics on the add, don't match when you actually see them. For Asian SPs, I will just go to Vancouver.
Yes, valid points, however, seeing a 30+ woman who is not a SP and never was one, is quite a different story from seeing a SP in 30+ category who still has to do this, I doubt many enjoy this job coz of adrenaline and sex gratification as the main driving force. CRAZY MONEY, crazy money and again crazy money given no any education needed. AGAIN, It is about crazy money mainly in the light of lack of education, oftentimes.
I agree women after 30 may enjoy sex more or in a different, deeper way than when they are 20s. But 30+ non SP and 30+ SP are quite distinct in terms of their freshness and looks.

FOR EXAMPLE, if you take two siblings, roughly same age and let one do escorting and let another live a financially good and affordable life... and then compare them in 10 years, oh man, you will see a drastic difference and you would realize that 1 year of escorting =3 years of non escorting life in terms of tear and wear.

Yes there is a sexual gratitude and adrenaline moment as well. For example, escorting in Africa for survival ... is different from escorting in Canada. IMHO, in Canada escorting is not for food only, it is for adrenaline, crazy money, nymphomania etc.
by Crazy money I mean, a woman will survive here doing non escorting jobs, unlike Africa, but yet, they choose escorting.. I guess here in Canada it is a combo of factors, including sexual gratification, adrenaline, nymphomania, mental disease or trauma etc.. as you mentioned.

And yes, even life is easier in Canada, there are some low social economical status girls, who really need a social lift, and I feel that it is worth seeing those before 30 and give them a fair chance to move out of poverty, so they invest my money into education, long term stable biz etc...and if a woman still does escorting after 30 and for money primarily, I am sorry, her chances are quite slim for success in life, yes, it is harsh and brutal, but I don't want her to waste my money on drugs, food, shelter etc... it is too late to invest in her. I feel I am in this biz not for my pleasure only, but I feel I can perform some social role hahaha, that's hypocrisy maybe and philosophy, but I don't care. All of the above refers to onlyfans, porn etc.

See it is like sports except chess, if you have not reached certain level by 28-30, young and fresh will move you out and if all you know is how to kick the puck around and have not collected enough from NHL money which I hope you reached, well, the rest of the life will be miserable without education and other skills same in this biz and age timeliness are comparable. If a girl was escorting from 20 to 30 and doesn't have education, 100- 200k at least on the account or as passive capital, capital gains... well... I am sorry, it is too late... and yes I really want to help/invest into those who are showing hope, not hopeless.

Now I know people will start kicking me. Go ahead ;)
 
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Yes, valid points, however, seeing a 30+ woman who is not a SP and never was one, is quite a different story from seeing a SP in 30+ category who still has to do this, I doubt many enjoy this job coz of adrenaline and sex gratification as the main driving force. CRAZY MONEY, crazy money and again crazy money given no any education needed. AGAIN, It is about crazy money mainly in the light of lack of education, oftentimes.
I agree women after 30 may enjoy sex more or in a different, deeper way than when they are 20s. But 30+ non SP and 30+ SP are quite distinct in terms of their freshness and looks.

FOR EXAMPLE, if you take two siblings, roughly same age and let one do escorting and let another live a financially good and affordable life... and then compare them in 10 years, oh man, you will see a drastic difference and you would realize that 1 year of escorting =3 years of non escorting life in terms of tear and wear.

Yes there is a sexual gratitude and adrenaline moment as well. For example, escorting in Africa for survival ... is different from escorting in Canada. IMHO, in Canada escorting is not for food only, it is for adrenaline, crazy money, nymphomania etc.
by Crazy money I mean, a woman will survive here doing non escorting jobs, unlike Africa, but yet, they choose escorting.. I guess here in Canada it is a combo of factors, including sexual gratification, adrenaline, nymphomania, mental disease or trauma etc.. as you mentioned.

And yes, even life is easier in Canada, there are some low social economical status girls, who really need a social lift, and I feel that it is worth seeing those before 30 and give them a fair chance to move out of poverty, so they invest my money into education, long term stable biz etc...and if a woman still does escorting after 30 and for money primarily, I am sorry, her chances are quite slim for success in life, yes, it is harsh and brutal, but I don't want her to waste my money on drugs, food, shelter etc... it is too late to invest in her. I feel I am in this biz not for my pleasure only, but I feel I can perform some social role hahaha, that's hypocrisy maybe and philosophy, but I don't care. All of the above refers to onlyfans, porn etc.

See it is like sports except chess, if you have not reached certain level by 28-30, young and fresh will move you out and if all you know is how to kick the puck around and have not collected enough from NHL money which I hope you reached, well, the rest of the life will be miserable without education and other skills same in this biz and age timeliness are comparable. If a girl was escorting from 20 to 30 and doesn't have education, 100- 200k at least on the account or as passive capital, capital gains... well... I am sorry, it is too late... and yes I really want to help/invest into those who are showing hope, not hopeless.

Now I know people will start kicking me. Go ahead ;)
One thing is for sure, us Canadian have it way better than Americans when it comes to seeing escorts. I really feel for Americans sometimes. I lived in US, and the only websites where there are more legit escorts is eros, listcrawler has too many scammers and undercover sting operations in the US. Plus, in the US an escort is not allowed to admit that she is providing sensual/sexual services because she fears that the possible client might be undercover cop. Also, incalls are super-risky there. Better off doing outcalls that too with hourly expensive escorts that too with professional websites and at least some reviews. One thing is common amongst escorts in US and Canada, both are doing escorting willingly, despite America being an economic powerhouse with a lot of jobs for females that too good paying jobs. I highly doubt a Software Engineering female in the US would want to do escorting. But I have been with a female Computer Science student East-Indian escort before lol! She was wild.
 
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