Thinking about current events ...

[masterpoonhunter]

Was planning to do some thatching of my front and back lawns today as neither survived last year's heat dome very well, but the rain and the general gray-ness had me in my garage doing some wood sorting. That didn't hold up so I headed back inside, made another latte and flicked on the news. Moved back and forth between CTV and CBC which were solely focused on the downtown core of Ottawa.

And I started thinking that there was a shift happening. This wasn't the same as back when Trudeau Sr. made his famous "Just Watch Me" remark when the FLQ crisis was happening. That was a truly made in Canada situation that had to happen in some form or another as Quebec in those days had some radical shit happening. What was going on today seemed different. Not Jan.6 Insurrection stuff but the elements were there. Back when it started I felt this was not a made in Canada situation. A good part of the GoFundMe and the other crowdfunder thing was foreign. The whole gig these people performed was highly organized and really too bad the powers that be did not move fast enough. I mean the first message that I heard was that this freedumb convoy was going to take over the government and all in the guise of it being a bunch of people upset about vaccines.

This perceived shift I started thinking about includes a significant radical element. I hesitate to put them as far right wing, or maybe so far right they are far left wing, or maybe the new wing, are wing nuts, but these are people that really believe what they are doing is justified. Listening to their so called leaders all I could think of was 'what a self important little man'. My fear is that the more this shift happens, the more heavy handed will be the push back. Are we starting to lose Canada as it has been?

I guess none of these protesters figured they could end up with a criminal record. Lose their license, have their trucks seized, insurance canceled, possibly have their ability to keep the lease on that truck or get a new one harmed, or with the emergency act bank accounts frozen. Other than that take over the government crap I think they were upset about needing to be vaxxed to cross the border. Well that criminal record will fix that situation for them won't it.

Anyway, just some thoughts of an aging pooner on a gray February day ...
Cheers, MPH

 

[sensualsixty]

I wonder if others noticed that the crowds confronting police lines were very white. Once I made my initial observation I got looking for some colour in the crowd of protesters, and did not find any.

 

[milemiles]

I wonder if others noticed that the crowds confronting police lines were very white. Once I made my initial observation I got looking for some colour in the crowd of protesters, and did not find any.

I noted the exact same thing.

 

[apl16]

Was planning to do some thatching of my front and back lawns today as neither survived last year's heat dome very well, but the rain and the general gray-ness had me in my garage doing some wood sorting. That didn't hold up so I headed back inside, made another latte and flicked on the news. Moved back and forth between CTV and CBC which were solely focused on the downtown core of Ottawa.

And I started thinking that there was a shift happening. This wasn't the same as back when Trudeau Sr. made his famous "Just Watch Me" remark when the FLQ crisis was happening. That was a truly made in Canada situation that had to happen in some form or another as Quebec in those days had some radical shit happening. What was going on today seemed different. Not Jan.6 Insurrection stuff but the elements were there. Back when it started I felt this was not a made in Canada situation. A good part of the GoFundMe and the other crowdfunder thing was foreign. The whole gig these people performed was highly organized and really too bad the powers that be did not move fast enough. I mean the first message that I heard was that this freedumb convoy was going to take over the government and all in the guise of it being a bunch of people upset about vaccines.

This perceived shift I started thinking about includes a significant radical element. I hesitate to put them as far right wing, or maybe so far right they are far left wing, or maybe the new wing, is a wing nuts, but these are people that really believe what they are doing is justified. Listening to their so called leaders all I could think of was 'what a self important little man'. My fear is that the more this shift happens, the more heavy handed will be the push back. Are we starting to lose Canada as it has been?

I guess none of these protesters figured they could end up with a criminal record. Lose their license, have their trucks seized, insurance canceled, possibly have their ability to keep the lease on that truck or get a new one harmed, or with the emergency act bank accounts frozen. Other than that take over the government crap I think they were upset about needing to be vaxxed to cross the border. Well that criminal record will fix that situation for them won't it.

Anyway, just some thoughts of an aging pooner on a gray February day ...
Cheers, MPH

Media/social media are blowing things up in ridiculous manner. They are looking for more hits to make more money.
I can't recall seeing "truckers taking over the capital".
Pure bullshit clickbate!

The FLQ situation was much more serious.

 

[mrbubbasmith]

This is why I don’t watch the news. Give me All in the Family any day to deal with issues

 

[oldshark]

I noted the exact same thing.

When I was watching the news, I got the same picture. Basically a group of entitled whites who are scared of the future because they believe they have no control over it. The only way they have of dealing with this is to get nasty and into everyone's face. Most of them don't appear to have education given their incoherent ramblings. To a degree, I understand these people because I share their background, but I am unwilling to accept their approach and I tried to use my opportunities. Rather than put on tinfoil hats and rant like a crazy shit, I worked hard to give my family a good life despite the struggles. Canada is a great country that is greater than the 'vision' the occupiers have in their minds.

 

[westwoody]

There’s a doozy of a thread on merb about the FluTruxKlan entitlement convoy.

It was a stunt organised by right wing wexiters. The truckers were sheep manipulated for political points by neo cons and assholes like Candace Bergen and Max Bernier.

We receive/despatch dozens of trucks a day from our hub. Every driver I have seen thinks these guys are idiots.

 

[Shakerod]

Remember…”When they come for you there may not be anyone left to speak.”

 

[zaig]

Remember…”When they come for you there may not be anyone left to speak.”

What did you do to have them come after you?

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

When I was watching the news, I got the same picture. Basically a group of entitled whites who are scared of the future because they believe they have no control over it. The only way they have of dealing with this is to get nasty and into everyone's face. Most of them don't appear to have education given their incoherent ramblings. To a degree, I understand these people because I share their background, but I am unwilling to accept their approach and I tried to use my opportunities. Rather than put on tinfoil hats and rant like a crazy shit, I worked hard to give my family a good life despite the struggles. Canada is a great country that is greater than the 'vision' the occupiers have in their minds.

Well, if you want to make this into a racial issue, then explain the native protests that Trudeau refused to do anything about a few years back, which had the rail-lines shut down and ACTUALLY halted the economy. Let's not forget that whole debacle was because the Natives wanted more money on the land deals the Oil company already paid for. Something to the tune of $6 Billion dollars was agreed upon with the Elected Chiefs, but not with the actual Hereditary Chiefs, who apparently came up with a bunch of other demands to get a few billion more. Oil companies wouldn't pay, so the tribes started protesting over the "environment and centuries of oppression", ...and Trudope wouldn't do anything about it...*It wasn't until the Oil company paid out that few billion dollars more, and sUdDeNlY the protests stop....

Comparing to the convoy, the problem with Trudope's narrative is, that the economy was already in shambles when the protest started, nobody is making money with all these mandates imposed by our glorious dictator PM. There was no threat to the economy because the economy isn't moving anyways. It's not moving because no one is working, because of the mandates. But that seems to be Trudeau's excuse to enact Martial Law?.....

Since our dictator has always pandered to virtue-signallers, I'd say it's easy for you to afford to call white people all "crazy", because Trudope will always pander to those who'll lick his boots. But here's another plot-twist you need to account for....there were more than just whites at the protest.

 

[80watts]

Alot of people may be mad that the federal government enacted the Emergency Act.
Here in Canada the rule is most people get along with their neighbours; but sometimes there is that neighbour who really dosn't want to play ball.

So far people getting vaccinated, have better chances of not being hospitalized == when, not if=== they get whatever variant of covid-19.

Therefore it is logical to have rules and mandates in place to get your employees and citizens vaccinated. The vast majority of Canadians have chosen to get vaccinated.
Somehow anti-vacers have gotten into their thinking that their individual rights trumps (I think there is pun here) the governments' duty to protect its population.


When minority causes, have a small amount of people who create chaos, in a normal working flow of a city, province or country (blockades of streets, border crossings) which disrupts the normal flow of the majority of Population from going about their daily lives.
An protest takes an afternoon or a day or 2.
But a couple of weeks?? Just a nuisance. That's all.

How does a government peacefully gets the protestors to disperse. Well its not going to be pretty and the protestors will eventually get arrested, if not immediately. Just too much tech today to find people, videos etc.

The Emergency Act was used, just in case the ball got out of control (when dispersing the protestors), but also because it by-passed fail safes in the Canadian Legal system (Star Trek = needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few=== philosophy) ... Not that the Cdn Gov didn't already have that information. The use of the Emergency Act cut through the red tape BullShit, and tied off the loose ends.

It also forced the people in government (especially the police ) to do their fucking jobs, even though they sympathized with the protestors.

Canada is a democratic government. The citizens choose their governments by voting for them.

The Emergency Act enactment, might be a little overhanded; but sometimes the majority of the people in the neighbourhood, just have to fucken kick that asshole in the nuts....

 

[oldshark]

Well, if you want to make this into a racial issue, then explain the native protests that Trudeau refused to do anything about a few years back, which had the rail-lines shut down and ACTUALLY halted the economy. Let's not forget that whole debacle was because the Natives wanted more money on the land deals the Oil company already paid for. Something to the tune of $6 Billion dollars was agreed upon with the Elected Chiefs, but not with the actual Hereditary Chiefs, who apparently came up with a bunch of other demands to get a few billion more. Oil companies wouldn't pay, so the tribes started protesting over the "environment and centuries of oppression", ...and Trudope wouldn't do anything about it...*It wasn't until the Oil company paid out that few billion dollars more, and sUdDeNlY the protests stop....

Comparing to the convoy, the problem with Trudope's narrative is, that the economy was already in shambles when the protest started, nobody is making money with all these mandates imposed by our glorious dictator PM. There was no threat to the economy because the economy isn't moving anyways. It's not moving because no one is working, because of the mandates. But that seems to be Trudeau's excuse to enact Martial Law?.....

Since our dictator has always pandered to virtue-signallers, I'd say it's easy for you to afford to call white people all "crazy", because Trudope will always pander to those who'll lick his boots. But here's another plot-twist you need to account for....there were more than just whites at the protest.
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Well, I watched the occupiers movement extensively and yes, it was mostly whites. But I said mostly. Of course, I see some minorities there but it isn't to the extent that I see whites. I am white, I grew up working class or less, and I believe in what I say. There are many whites in this country who are scared of the future for a variety of reasons and they seem to constitute 95% of the occupiers.

With regards to the First Nations, I agree that that should have been handled better. And still has to be. The rule of law has to extent to everywhere equally, whether they be truck protestors or hereditary chiefs. But I am not going to get deflected. Don't assume that I am defending Trudeau or the First Nations of BLM. I am defending the rule of law and common decency.

With regards to the hereditary chiefs, I would propose the following; abolish the role that the British monarchy plays in Canada and at the same time, the role and rights of hereditary chiefs. Picking our leaders by the chance of birth is ludicrous. What if Andrew had been born prior to Charles, then we would see a monarch accused of being a paedophile head our country!!

 

[westwoody]

These convoy organisers are fucking idiots. This performance is sad.
Really, you have to read this....how a pair of adults who are able to vote in this country can be so totally clueless.

Of course it is entirely possible they are blatantly lying and pretending to be simpletons, while simultaneously being active neo nazis.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-bail-hearing-february-19-1.6358307

 

[MissingOne]

... The truckers were sheep manipulated for political points ...

You are insulting sheep. Research has shown that they are clever animals and good problem solvers. The "truckers" are not.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...eing-called-a-sheep-should-really-be-seen-as/

 

[CapnMaynards]

In this whole situation I've found, once again, that my dislike of the Federal Government is clashing with my dislike of protestors, and so I've just tuned the whole thing out.

 

[Lo-ki]

This is me.......for quite a while.....

 

[Drjohn]

These convoy organisers are fucking idiots. This performance is sad.
Really, you have to read this....how a pair of adults who are able to vote in this country can be so totally clueless.

Of course it is entirely possible they are blatantly lying and pretending to be simpletons, while simultaneously being active neo nazis.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-bail-hearing-february-19-1.6358307

The Nazi card is often overplayed or played incorrectly. No doubt there were "yobs" among the trucker protesters. There were also a lot of regular everyday Canadians who were tired of government overreach in general and Vax mandates in particular. I don't agree with all their methods , but I can sympathize with their complaints. Calling people you disagree with "Nazis" is intellectually lazy. I do realize that we are governed within a British parliamentary system. About 30% of registered voters voted in the current Liberal government.
The other 70% have a keen interest in what is going on. This minority government has very little authority and borders on being illegitimate. Food for thought.

 

[westwoody]

The Nazi card is often overplayed or played incorrectly.

Read my post again, the part where it says:
“These convoy organisers”
I am talking about two people.
The two in the link.
If you are a white supremacist who has cordial relations with the Aryan Nations and Sons of Odin like she does, you are a Nazi.

 

[Drjohn]

Read my post again, the part where it says:
“These convoy organisers”
I am talking about two people.
The two in the link.
If you are a white supremacist who has cordial relations with the Aryan Nations and Sons of Odin like she does, you are a Nazi.

It's quite possible that there are hundreds of extreme right wing nut jobs in Canada, maybe even a couple thousand. The population of Canada is nearly 39 million.
I haven't heard of them blowing up any bridges or storming the parliament with machine guns and grenades.
Everynight I go bed, I check under my bed and look in my closets to make sure that there's no fascists hiding there.
So far, nothing.

 

[oldshark]

It's quite possible that there are hundreds of extreme right wing nut jobs in Canada, maybe even a couple thousand. The population of Canada is nearly 39 million.
I haven't heard of them blowing up any bridges or storming the parliament with machine guns and grenades.
Everynight I go bed, I check under my bed and look in my closets to make sure that there's no fascists hiding there.
So far, nothing.

Actually I have a Nazi down the street from me. Because I am from a group that he holds in contempt, he has sent me threats, slashed my tires, shot at my car with an pellet gun! He terrorized the other neighbours, one committed suicide, another had his brake lines cut and crashed. The list is long and goes on. Finally he was brought under control after the RCMP knocked at his door and he shoved the cop down the stairs. After been sent to the looney bin for 6 months, he is back but at least not allowed on the street for the next 18 months. So, yah, I keep a baseball bat at my front door for the little Nazi. He looks harmless but he is so full of hate. You can imagine the problems of living around that sort. But I sure as hell won't run from them or bow to them!