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Cock Throppled

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And yet here you are critical of one side only and reguritating extremist talking points you get from media ;claiming to have woken up by questioning things while towing the line by blabbering falsehoods. Hypocrite says what?
Okay genius, tell me where I "regurgitated extremist talking points". All I've ever done is challenge the one-sided criticism of Trump, often without validation, and the lack of criticism of Biden. Just like the right keeps repeating lies, so does the left. Here's a recent example of the constant lies thrown at Trump that continue to be repeated, even when they have been discredited. How many of them were repeated on this site?

MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace, who continuously accuses Fox News of promoting “misinformation,” repeated three widely discredited stories about former President Donald Trump during a single, 13-minute segment of Tuesday’s “Deadline: White House”.

Wallace devoted a full segment to criticizing the Trump family for its alleged disdain of the Bible. “Hyper-masculine, real men,” she said, “show their faith by gassing protesters in Lafayette Square in order to — for the sole purpose of — being able to hoist a Bible above Trump’s head as a photo prop, upside-down I believe, in front of St. John’s church.”

Last June 1, President Trump visited the St. John’s Episcopal Church, often called “the church of presidents,” which rioters set fire to during arson-tinged unrest. Although the legacy media — and candidate Joe Biden— accused the president of ordering the U.S. Park Police to spray people with tear gas in order to stage a “photo op,” an official government report released under the Biden administration cleared Trump of those charges.

USPP cleared the park to allow a contractor to safely install antiscale fencing in response to destruction of [f]ederal property and injury to officers that occurred on May 30 and May 31,” the report said. USPP officials “made those decisions” and began clearing the area “several hours before they knew of a potential [p]residential visit to the park, which occurred later that day.”

Claim #2: Trump said ‘The Art of the Deal’ is better than the Bible

“The Bible clearly is so special to Donald Trump that in that moment, he couldn’t think of a single passage that he liked, and it was second only to The Art of the Deal,” Wallace said, citing the president’s book.
But in the video she had just played, the future president told Bloomberg News that he considered the Bible his favorite book, not his own bestseller. When people at his campaign rallies “hold up The Art of the Deal, I say, ‘My second favorite book of all time.’ But I just think the Bible is just something very special,” he said.

Claim #3: Trump called people who serve in the military “losers”

An article published in The Atlantic in September 2020 asserted that President Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris “because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead.” It went on to cite anonymous sources who claimed President Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”
But no fewer than 10 people — including former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who became an indefatigable Trump foe — went on the record to say The Atlantic’s story wasn’t true. “It was entirely a weather-related decision, and I thought the proper thing to do. I never heard he made that kind of comment about another country’s forces either, no,” said Bolton.
Former presidential counselor Johnny DeStefano said plainly, “I was on this trip. The Atlantic bit is not true. Period.” Former acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney said Trump “was outwardly in awe of the accomplishments of the Allied Forces, and the sacrifices they paid,” as he surveyed the battlefield on the 75th anniversary of D-Day.
 

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Biden was pretty much laughing at all of America during the " This gets solved on a national level" speech. You can see the glee in his face. So many suckers in America, it deserves this clown.
 

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You're right, Biden should've banned anyone in those hickweed red states from access to anything public untul they got vaccinated...school, church, flights, supermarkets, crossing state lines, everything. Punishable by jail time."
Yeah, nothing Nazi-like in that statement at all, is there?
 
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LLLurkJ2

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Yeah, nothing Nazi-like in that statement at all, is there?
Ah I see, the victemhood from not being allowed to freely spread a lethal virus that has actually killed 1 in 100 people over 65 warrants a holocaust comparison. Like on the one hand people actually participating in something that kills people vs telling them they cant do it for public safety. Sounds like a 4th reich to me, definately.

Nazi like would be something like 'all covid spreaders should be forced to read your posts over and over again' or some other torture.
 

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Okay genius, tell me where I "regurgitated extremist talking points". All I've ever done is challenge the one-sided criticism of Trump, often without validation, and the lack of criticism of Biden.
Ok, how about the time you said 'black people are the most reluctant to get vaccinated'.

And if you're just about unfair critisims why do you refer to 'sleepy joe'? Thats a deraugatory dismissal of a political opponent, not a nuanced rebuttle of their policies.

Also, your extensive rebutrals again leave out some imprtant vitals and just look like more spin..like for 1, why was a peaceful protest cleared with tear gas, and why where there army helicopters buzing them? Why were they cleared blocks past where the fencing was to be set up? And why did Trump have to go out there at that moment with his secret service goons to hold that bible upside down for photos anyways? Was he just taking a walk in the park among the protesters to get some fresh air and clear his head?
 
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The bible that he couldn’t be bothered to carry back to the White House? One of his flunkies had to carry it. Too heavy for Trump.
 
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Clicked the "un-ignore" button to view the vitriol in this thread and have to wonder why do you people continue to feed the trolls? Anyway back to peace taking the UN ignore back to ignore.
 

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At least we don't have to worry about it too much longer.

"The average age of empires, according to a specialist on the subject, the late Sir John Bagot Glubb, is 250 years. After that, empires always die, often slowly but overwhelmingly from overreaching in the search for power. The America of 1776 will reach its 250th year in 2026"
 

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At least we don't have to worry about it too much longer.

"The average age of empires, according to a specialist on the subject, the late Sir John Bagot Glubb, is 250 years. After that, empires always die, often slowly but overwhelmingly from overreaching in the search for power. The America of 1776 will reach its 250th year in 2026"
Then poof, it turns into a pumpkin.
 

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At least we don't have to worry about it too much longer.

"The average age of empires, according to a specialist on the subject, the late Sir John Bagot Glubb, is 250 years. After that, empires always die, often slowly but overwhelmingly from overreaching in the search for power. The America of 1776 will reach its 250th year in 2026"
You should mention that the US became imperialistic after taking over Cuba and the Philippines from Spain . As for their economy it surpassed the British Empire during WW1 . So they will have been one of the shortest lasting empire in history . China economy is bond to be taking over the US in the next few decades which will be putting an end to the US hegemony in the following decades unless they can make allies and work in concert with them.
 

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How would an American President bring freedom in Canada ? You realize that we have as much freedom as the Americans plus a better record now in terms of freedom to vote. His lack of management skills with Covid is what cost him the election in 2020.... and you want him back to change things on this side of the "Canadian " border !?!? You'd be better to get a new movement going to unify North America and see how much support you get on this side of the border. Best of luck with that !
You think he mis managed Covid…. I’m what way: in 4 years he accomplished way more then any recent president. Joe Biden in 1 year: double the death count of trumps era of Covid, fucked Albertans for their oil jobs by cancelling pipeline, caused Russia and China to become world dominators, triggered Israel and Gaza, oh yeah and did you forgot….. Afghanistan is being run by terrorist, women and children are be raped by terrorist in Afghanistan. Do you hear about it?? No, Covid has been a cover up for absolutely everything. They’re gonna keep sheltering Covid for everything that had gone wrong in the world.
Here’s how trump gets Canadian freedom back: the rest of the world follows the USA. Right now the USA is the weakest they’ve ever been; they enforce COVID, the rest of the world does since the USA is the leader of human rights. Trump will be the first world leader to accept the fact that COVID is never leaving and we have to learn to live with it freely, without mandates and forced vaccinations. Ask yourself, how many vaccines are you willing to take to “slow the spread”. Israel is a statistics that boosters are not working, they are on their 4th booster
 

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You think he mis managed Covid…. I’m what way: in 4 years he accomplished way more then any recent president. Joe Biden in 1 year: double the death count of trumps era of Covid, fucked Albertans for their oil jobs by cancelling pipeline, caused Russia and China to become world dominators, triggered Israel and Gaza, oh yeah and did you forgot….. Afghanistan is being run by terrorist, women and children are be raped by terrorist in Afghanistan. Do you hear about it?? No, Covid has been a cover up for absolutely everything. They’re gonna keep sheltering Covid for everything that had gone wrong in the world.
Here’s how trump gets Canadian freedom back: the rest of the world follows the USA. Right now the USA is the weakest they’ve ever been; they enforce COVID, the rest of the world does since the USA is the leader of human rights. Trump will be the first world leader to accept the fact that COVID is never leaving and we have to learn to live with it freely, without mandates and forced vaccinations. Ask yourself, how many vaccines are you willing to take to “slow the spread”. Israel is a statistics that boosters are not working, they are on their 4th booster
Did you talk to Cock Throppled to go after people critical of trump and equating it for support of Biden and his administration ? What a stretch...

I said my peace earlier about extrapolating concerning freedom from one side of the border to the other.

As for the rest... that's your point of view...some I agree with some I don't ...
 

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The Trump rhetoric tends to jive with the crowd that has trouble putting simple sentences together. In the USA, the size of that crowd is non-trivial. Just try to read the posts by some of the Trumpers on this thread and you'll see what I mean.

What's popular now are simplistic "solutions" with no real essence, straight-up lies, and a narrative that resonates with the simple folk.

To make things worse, anybody who criticizes *any* of what one party says is automatically put on the other side. As if it's just easier to subscribe and pretend to agree with 100% of what a group says, instead of using one's individual ability to think, process, and decide. The spectrum of "liberal" to "conservative" is not binary.

Regardless of political ideology, a good president ought to be more intelligent than the average. A president must have the tenacity, dedication, and drive to actually care and analyze the constant stream of data they're provided in order to make decisions.

It's a sad trend. And the US isn't the only country where this is happening.
 

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Wand Erection you are so right when you say " a president must have the tenacity, dedication, and drive to actually care and analyze the constant stream of data they're provided in order to make decisions." Unfortunately, President Biden doesn't come close to that criteria. The citizens of the USA are finally realizing that President Biden is inept and is unable to solve any issues that the country is facing. He has no answers for inflation, the border crisis, crime in democratic cities, and the health crisis. He said he would shut down the virus but he hasn't-he did not order enough covid tests. whe in December 2020 that he would. He can't even read a teleprompter properly. After the mid term elections and the Democrats lose the Congress and possibly the Senate you will see Hilary Clinton challenge President Biden in the Iowa or New Hampshire primary. She is appearing more often on the liberal media sites this last month so that should tell you something. People in the USA see what I see and the polls are reflecting that. In one poll his VP has a higher approval rating than him which I found startling. Time for Sleepy Joe to go. Hilary will tell you the same thing after the mid terms.
 
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