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New study estimates death toll in the US more than 900,000, far higher than official numbers

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Many poor countries have no vaccines or healthcare systems.
 

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I wouldn't doubt it. A lot of red states were hiding COVID deaths as pneumonia and other respiratory ailments.
The CDC said a year a go that only six percent of Covid deaths in the US were due to the actual virus. The new CDC director Rochelle Walensky admitted again yesterday that same six percent number.They inflated the numbers.to scare the shit out of people. Where did you get your information from?
 

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The CDC said a year a go that only six percent of Covid deaths in the US were due to the actual virus. The new CDC director Rochelle Walensky admitted again yesterday that same six percent number.They inflated the numbers.to scare the shit out of people. Where did you get your information from?
The fact you have faith in any American government agency says a lot...
 
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Mad cow disease was hidden by the US, and is to this day....their numbers are vastly skewed.
They simply label it as the “staggers” ( which doesn’t exist), and get rid of the animal.....yet many people in the US have died of BSE.
 

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The CDC said a year a go that only six percent of Covid deaths in the US were due to the actual virus. The new CDC director Rochelle Walensky admitted again yesterday that same six percent number.They inflated the numbers.to scare the shit out of people. Where did you get your information from?
"Did COVID-19 cause only 6% of coronavirus deaths? Viral posts misrepresent CDC report

"...What the CDC’s update really means is that 94% of the people who died from the coronavirus had at least one other health condition...

"... “The point that the CDC was trying to make was that a certain percentage of them had nothing else but just COVID. That does not mean that someone who has hypertension or diabetes who dies of COVID didn’t die of COVID-19 — they did.”

“So, the numbers that you’ve been hearing, the 180,000 plus deaths are real deaths from COVID-19. Let there not be any confusion about that,” Fauci said."

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article245382320.html

Today the official number is around 600,000 people have who died from covid19 in the USA.

On average they were snuffed out by covid19 sixteen years before their time. IOW if covid19 didn't exist they would have lived another 16 years.
 
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Almost everyone has some form of comorbidity. Obesity is a frequently listed one. But if you are 20 pounds overweight and die of covid, covid killed you. Not the comorbidity.
 

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If you died in a car accident and had covid…… you died from covid.
Makes sense ……. it does to the covid number crunchers…..
 

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If you died in a car accident and had covid…… you died from covid.
Makes sense ……. it does to the covid number crunchers…..
No it doesn’t, how does that make any sense? That’s an exaggeration spread by people that don’t understand how catching COVID and dying with comorbidities works. There is reasoning to how a death certificate is completed, you know?
 

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If you died in a car accident and had covid…… you died from covid.
Makes sense ……. it does to the covid number crunchers…..
Maybe. If covid made it difficult to breath and you passed out behind the wheel, crashed your car and died.

Come on let's get real here. You are obese. You catch covid. You die. If you weren't obese would you still be alive? Maybe. If you didn't catch covid would you still be alive? Most definitely! At least until a massive heart attack takes you in your sleep.
So what killed you; I'd say covid.
 
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No it doesn’t, how does that make any sense? That’s an exaggeration spread by people that don’t understand how catching COVID and dying with comorbidities works. There is reasoning to how a death certificate is completed, you know?
Why is it with some people 2+2 always adds up to 5. Don’t you know when you are being manipulated by the corrupt politicians and the media. They have been trying to inflate the numbers ever since Fauci said in the beginning that there were going to be 2 million deaths in the US. He needed to change the target when he saw people weren’t dying in those numbers, but governors putting Covid patients in care homes and hospitals being paid to count deaths as Covid related helped inflate those numbers to make Fauci look a little more credible. In the mean time, every therapeutic medicine such as Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin which have been used successful in other countries are discredited now in the US as causing side affects and not safe to use. But we are suppose to believe that vaccines which were never approved at the trial stage are somehow safe. Wow, talking about a leap of faith!
 
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Why is it with some people 2+2 always adds up to 5. Don’t you know when you are being manipulated by the corrupt politicians and the media. They have been trying to inflate the numbers ever since Fauci said in the beginning that there were going to be 2 million deaths in the US. He needed to change the target when he saw people weren’t dying in those numbers, but governors putting Covid patients in care homes and hospitals being paid to count deaths as Covid related helped inflate those numbers to make Fauci look a little more credible. In the mean time, every therapeutic medicine such as Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin which have been used successful in other countries are discredited now in the US as causing side affects and not safe to use. But we are suppose to believe that vaccines which were never approved at the trial stage are somehow safe. Wow, talking about a leap of faith!
Wow, what a tale. You have receipts for that?

Why do the right-wing conspiracy nuts all write the same way? You ask about car accidents being claimed as COVID deaths, and you get a rambling reply of “you’re being manipulated”, “Fauci is a liar”, “Cuomo conspired to kill people for Fauci(??)”, “hydroxychloroquine”, “vaccines aren’t safe”, “vaccines are still in the trial stage”.

Y’all goofy as hell.
 
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Speaking on behalf of another Winnipeg member-

They had a sibling die from covid this week after being on a ventilator for over a week.
There was no car involved.
They did not die because they were obese.
They died because they had covid.

Making jokes about this is really not funny to those who have lost family members.

Think about how you would feel if someone was joking about you if you had lost a child or parent.
 
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Speaking on behalf of another Winnipeg member-

They had a sibling die from covid this week after being on a ventilator for over a week.
There was no car involved.
They did not die because they were obese.
They died because they had covid.

Making jokes about this is really not funny to those who have lost family members.

Think about how you would feel if someone was joking about you if you had lost a child or parent.
My sincere condolences to that member and I totally agree with your last two sentences. My Father died from covid in Philippines early on in the pandemic. He had underlying health issues but was doing good until he caught covid. 3 weeks later he was gone. Facetime was the only possible way to say goodbye.

Its time we all show some respect.
 

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Speaking on behalf of another Winnipeg member-

They had a sibling die from covid this week after being on a ventilator for over a week.
There was no car involved.
They did not die because they were obese.
They died because they had covid.

Making jokes about this is really not funny to those who have lost family members.

Think about how you would feel if someone was joking about you if you had lost a child or parent.
My condolences to you. I lost three family members in the last year, so I know how you feel. But I never said that nobody died from it. All I said was they were manipulating the numbers. I never made any jokes about anything...what are you talking about?
 

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They have been trying to inflate the numbers ever since Fauci said in the beginning that there were going to be 2 million deaths in the US.
He said "there were going to be 2 million deaths in the US." OR he estimated at the time that it looked that way?

Better to overestimate & have people being safe as a result than to speak like Trump that it was going to go away in a few days (but months later almost 600K Americans are dead *)

* Official number, but probably under estimated by a lot.
 
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