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I would have to say that 1 or 2 rants on twitter would be keeping it simple, more than 5 it gets too complicated.... So the fact is that you have a whole bunch (over 500) intellectutuals telling the government on how to set the Fed, when you only need 50 or so people that have experience in business or other aspects of american life. Sounds complicated. when it could be simpler.
After all humans are a simple people. They eat, shit and then they die. And they''ll need shelter (for that we invented economics)......
 

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More detentions than any time in history as part of a crisis on the southern border, highest inflation in a decade at the same time jobs are not recovering, gas shortages, and highest prices since 2008, an infrastructure bill full of pork and the start of a war in the Middle East.

All achieved in just over 100 days. Biden showing he’s not that slow in creating havoc.

Just imagine what kind of an uproar there would be if ANY of this was happening under Trump? But, judging by the lack of comments on this thread, the perberts who had so much to say when Trump was president, seem to think everything is just fine.
 

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More detentions than any time in history as part of a crisis on the southern border, highest inflation in a decade at the same time jobs are not recovering, gas shortages, and highest prices since 2008, an infrastructure bill full of pork and the start of a war in the Middle East.

All achieved in just over 100 days. Biden showing he’s not that slow in creating havoc.

Just imagine what kind of an uproar there would be if ANY of this was happening under Trump? But, judging by the lack of comments on this thread, the perberts who had so much to say when Trump was president, seem to think everything is just fine.
What is your understanding of the powers of the President? Are all the issues you listed a direct result of decisions he’s made?
 
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More detentions than any time in history as part of a crisis on the southern border, highest inflation in a decade at the same time jobs are not recovering, gas shortages, and highest prices since 2008, an infrastructure bill full of pork and the start of a war in the Middle East.

All achieved in just over 100 days. Biden showing he’s not that slow in creating havoc.

Just imagine what kind of an uproar there would be if ANY of this was happening under Trump? But, judging by the lack of comments on this thread, the perberts who had so much to say when Trump was president, seem to think everything is just fine.
I have to check the news on this start of war in the Middle East.
Biden will be in the next 2-3 years, dealing with the shit show of Trump. Bad or good. An example is that in Canada the Tories brought in the GST; and the Liberal rode the wave of the incoming money it brought in (that a positive).

Trump's border wall was put up to stop Central Americans from escaping violence in their countries brought along by gangs/drug cartels (who supply drugs to the USA).

So in fact, its the rapid American comsumer of illegal drugs which promps most of these people to go to the USA. Also the so called "better life" they can look forward to. So ironic.

If Trump's Presidency is gonna have any type of legacy, it will be to highlight the differences between the white and black population, and how American governments have failed Black People in America.

The other side of the coin is the finicial side. Trump's a Capitalist. A Business man. Less Regulation makes more profit at great risk to the investor. The Republicans under the 2nd Bush let the finicial crisis of 2008 happen, bailed the banks out. The voters choose Obama then. If you watched the movie Vice (about the Vice President of Bush), you have to ask what the fuck else was he doing?

Since then, no one in government has made choices to help curb "Wall Street" excesses in the market place. Trump as President took to twitter, with the shit dialogue made the stock market an volitile place with the stock market going up and down like a yoyo...... Instead of a calm influence, he allowed chaos to flow around him as long as he gained someting from it.

As for Biden's Havoc, isn't he doing just as his political promises were during the election?
 

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More detentions than any time in history as part of a crisis on the southern border, highest inflation in a decade at the same time jobs are not recovering, gas shortages, and highest prices since 2008, an infrastructure bill full of pork and the start of a war in the Middle East.

All achieved in just over 100 days. Biden showing he’s not that slow in creating havoc.

Just imagine what kind of an uproar there would be if ANY of this was happening under Trump? But, judging by the lack of comments on this thread, the perberts who had so much to say when Trump was president, seem to think everything is just fine.
The price of WTI Crude plunged in 2014, coming off its peak that year of $107.26/bbl.
Since Trump's inauguration, the price of oil has fluctuated the low $40's to the low $70's, until COVID hit and it it fell again to a low of $16.94/bbl in April of last year.
Today, the price of WTI Crude is $65.67 which is in line with the average price during Trump's presidency.

Now, the gas prices have surged in the last week, especially on the East Coast, due to Colonial Pipeline (the biggest fuel pipeline in the US) falling victim to a ransomware hack and they still haven't resumed operations.
To make matters worse, the public has started panic-buying, leading to a surge in demand that is coupled with the cut in supply.

To be honest, I'm not a O&G expert, but I don't really see how the US federal government is on the hook for this. How do you find Biden directly culpable?
 
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More detentions than any time in history as part of a crisis on the southern border, highest inflation in a decade at the same time jobs are not recovering, gas shortages, and highest prices since 2008, an infrastructure bill full of pork and the start of a war in the Middle East.

All achieved in just over 100 days. Biden showing he’s not that slow in creating havoc.

Just imagine what kind of an uproar there would be if ANY of this was happening under Trump? But, judging by the lack of comments on this thread, the perberts who had so much to say when Trump was president, seem to think everything is just fine.
i thought shady kushner was supposed to bring peace to the Middle East? Guess he did a half assed job. He’s better at being a slum landlord apparently.
 
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Trump’s delusion is seemingly boundless. He must take the opportunity at every wedding at Mar-a-shihole to get up and rant and rave about the stolen election.

Do you mean the election where the democrats brought in 100 lawyers to Maricopa County to disrupt the recount of the votes, or the same election that caused state after state to now bring in voter ID, or the same election where many states changed their voter laws without going through the state legislature...is that the one you are talking about? I might as well get a few more points in since the mod would rather shut the thread down than have any debate. Why did Biden open up the borders right after he got in and create a crisis? Why is there suddenly fighting in the Middle East after Trump signed all the peace deals? Because the democrats, and many RINO republicans wanted to create chaos and blame it on Trump. In the mean time, we all better be prepared for the collapse of the economy that is probably going to hit Canada just as hard as the US. Go ahead mod shut down the thread now. Seems that’s the easy way to deal with things these days is to just muzzle people who have a different opinion.
 

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Do you mean the election where the democrats brought in 100 lawyers to Maricopa County to disrupt the recount of the votes, or the same election that caused state after state to now bring in voter ID, or the same election where many states changed their voter laws without going through the state legislature...is that the one you are talking about? I might as well get a few more points in since the mod would rather shut the thread down than have any debate. Why did Biden open up the borders right after he got in and create a crisis? Why is there suddenly fighting in the Middle East after Trump signed all the peace deals? Because the democrats, and many RINO republicans wanted to create chaos and blame it on Trump. In the mean time, we all better be prepared for the collapse of the economy that is probably going to hit Canada just as hard as the US. Go ahead mod shut down the thread now. Seems that’s the easy way to deal with things these days is to just muzzle people who have a different opinion.
i’m talking about the the election trump lost fair and square. trump supporters can piss and moan about it until the cows come home but it won’t change the fact he’s not in the Oval Office anymore. Lol.
 

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Do you mean the election where the democrats brought in 100 lawyers to Maricopa County to disrupt the recount of the votes, or the same election that caused state after state to now bring in voter ID, or the same election where many states changed their voter laws without going through the state legislature...is that the one you are talking about? I might as well get a few more points in since the mod would rather shut the thread down than have any debate. Why did Biden open up the borders right after he got in and create a crisis? Why is there suddenly fighting in the Middle East after Trump signed all the peace deals? Because the democrats, and many RINO republicans wanted to create chaos and blame it on Trump. In the mean time, we all better be prepared for the collapse of the economy that is probably going to hit Canada just as hard as the US. Go ahead mod shut down the thread now. Seems that’s the easy way to deal with things these days is to just muzzle people who have a different opinion.
Do you think you're trying to engage in a discussion with any of this? You just dump headlines and buzzwords, then act like you're frustrated with the state of the world. Are you still mainlining GOP War Room hour-long YouTube videos?

  • Democratic lawyers disrupting Maricopa Country recount -- there's a lot wrong with this "audit" currently underway and it's completely partisan. The ballots underwent a certified recount and two state audits already. The state GOP then subpoenaed the ballots and turned them over to a company called Cyber Ninja who's president is Doug Logan, an ardent Trump supporter and Stop the Steal advocate, and the company itself has zero experience with election audits. They are chasing down conspiracy theories, like using UV lights to look for non-existent watermarks and analyzing the ballots for traces of bamboo, which would apparently imply fraudulent ballots were flown in from Asia.
  • Voter ID laws -- there's a big discussion to be had about this. There has been no significant records of voter fraud found and especially nothing that stricter ID laws would curtail.
  • States changing their laws without going through the legislature -- Yes, that could be an issue of impropriety. However, none of the laws they changed are drastically different from other states around the country. It's not the laws themselves, but how they were enacted. The issue with that, though, is the Republicans didn't contest them in court after the changes were made, didn't say anything leading up to the election, and then only filed lawsuits AFTER they had lost those states. The judges specifically said they lost their opportunity to contest these changes once the election was over as there is no appropriate remedy.
  • Biden's border issues -- agreed, they should have expected an influx of people attempting to cross the border once Trump was out of office and they dragged their heels in allocating resources to address it.
  • Trump signed "all the peace deals" -- I would really like to hear your understanding of the current situation. My impression is that both the Israelis and Palestinians have elections coming up, and both Bibi and Hamas gain support in times of turmoil. I'm not sure what peace treaties you're referring to... Israel signed a with the UAE, not Palestine. The gulf monarchies are very much different and the UAE has had a strategic relationship with the US for some time and Israel has had a diplomatic office there for six years.
  • The economy -- It definitely is something to watch closely and with concern, but I think Biden is capable of putting together a team to handle it well enough. The 2009 Recovery Act did a great job of pulling the US out of the recession and economists have said that its weaknesses came from not spending enough and cuts negotiated by Republicans (who then turned around and almost unanimously voted against it)
 

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Do you think you're trying to engage in a discussion with any of this? You just dump headlines and buzzwords, then act like you're frustrated with the state of the world. Are you still mainlining GOP War Room hour-long YouTube videos?

  • Democratic lawyers disrupting Maricopa Country recount -- there's a lot wrong with this "audit" currently underway and it's completely partisan. The ballots underwent a certified recount and two state audits already. The state GOP then subpoenaed the ballots and turned them over to a company called Cyber Ninja who's president is Doug Logan, an ardent Trump supporter and Stop the Steal advocate, and the company itself has zero experience with election audits. They are chasing down conspiracy theories, like using UV lights to look for non-existent watermarks and analyzing the ballots for traces of bamboo, which would apparently imply fraudulent ballots were flown in from Asia.
  • Voter ID laws -- there's a big discussion to be had about this. There has been no significant records of voter fraud found and especially nothing that stricter ID laws would curtail.
  • States changing their laws without going through the legislature -- Yes, that could be an issue of impropriety. However, none of the laws they changed are drastically different from other states around the country. It's not the laws themselves, but how they were enacted. The issue with that, though, is the Republicans didn't contest them in court after the changes were made, didn't say anything leading up to the election, and then only filed lawsuits AFTER they had lost those states. The judges specifically said they lost their opportunity to contest these changes once the election was over as there is no appropriate remedy.
  • Biden's border issues -- agreed, they should have expected an influx of people attempting to cross the border once Trump was out of office and they dragged their heels in allocating resources to address it.
  • Trump signed "all the peace deals" -- I would really like to hear your understanding of the current situation. My impression is that both the Israelis and Palestinians have elections coming up, and both Bibi and Hamas gain support in times of turmoil. I'm not sure what peace treaties you're referring to... Israel signed a with the UAE, not Palestine. The gulf monarchies are very much different and the UAE has had a strategic relationship with the US for some time and Israel has had a diplomatic office there for six years.
  • The economy -- It definitely is something to watch closely and with concern, but I think Biden is capable of putting together a team to handle it well enough. The 2009 Recovery Act did a great job of pulling the US out of the recession and economists have said that its weaknesses came from not spending enough and cuts negotiated by Republicans (who then turned around and almost unanimously voted against it)
There you go using facts which trump supporters don’t really care about. They prefer half truths, out right lies and propaganda gleaned from right wing rags and opinion channels masquerading as news outlets.
 

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Do you think you're trying to engage in a discussion with any of this? You just dump headlines and buzzwords, then act like you're frustrated with the state of the world. Are you still mainlining GOP War Room hour-long YouTube videos?

  • Democratic lawyers disrupting Maricopa Country recount -- there's a lot wrong with this "audit" currently underway and it's completely partisan. The ballots underwent a certified recount and two state audits already. The state GOP then subpoenaed the ballots and turned them over to a company called Cyber Ninja who's president is Doug Logan, an ardent Trump supporter and Stop the Steal advocate, and the company itself has zero experience with election audits. They are chasing down conspiracy theories, like using UV lights to look for non-existent watermarks and analyzing the ballots for traces of bamboo, which would apparently imply fraudulent ballots were flown in from Asia.
  • Voter ID laws -- there's a big discussion to be had about this. There has been no significant records of voter fraud found and especially nothing that stricter ID laws would curtail.
  • States changing their laws without going through the legislature -- Yes, that could be an issue of impropriety. However, none of the laws they changed are drastically different from other states around the country. It's not the laws themselves, but how they were enacted. The issue with that, though, is the Republicans didn't contest them in court after the changes were made, didn't say anything leading up to the election, and then only filed lawsuits AFTER they had lost those states. The judges specifically said they lost their opportunity to contest these changes once the election was over as there is no appropriate remedy.
  • Biden's border issues -- agreed, they should have expected an influx of people attempting to cross the border once Trump was out of office and they dragged their heels in allocating resources to address it.
  • Trump signed "all the peace deals" -- I would really like to hear your understanding of the current situation. My impression is that both the Israelis and Palestinians have elections coming up, and both Bibi and Hamas gain support in times of turmoil. I'm not sure what peace treaties you're referring to... Israel signed a with the UAE, not Palestine. The gulf monarchies are very much different and the UAE has had a strategic relationship with the US for some time and Israel has had a diplomatic office there for six years.
  • The economy -- It definitely is something to watch closely and with concern, but I think Biden is capable of putting together a team to handle it well enough. The 2009 Recovery Act did a great job of pulling the US out of the recession and economists have said that its weaknesses came from not spending enough and cuts negotiated by Republicans (who then turned around and almost unanimously voted against it)
It’s nice to see you are engaging in a discussion. So the first part you are talking about, which is the audit to see how the votes were counted through the Dominion voting system has seen very little cooperation from Dominion. Since a voting audit should be public record a private company should be authorized to give over their password, not hide it. The books should be open for everyone to see. The Democrats do not want to cooperate because they know the election was stolen, what other reason would they have? If they have nothing to hide why would they need all the lawyers?

On your second point, they are in the process of bringing in voter ID in several states, and why would anyone in their right mind be against that? That’s a no brainer.

Third point, it’s amazing to me that during a pandemic that you would open up the borders and let people in that you have no idea what disease they are bringing, let alone they might have COVID. This is a person that cares very little about his country and can’t possibly be in his right mind to make a decision like that, and where has the VP Harris been? She is the one he delegated to look after it, and she hasn’t been at the border once.

The peace deal speaks for itself. They want to keep using Middle East oil. The prisoners are back in charge of the asylum.

You and I can both agree on the economy. Trump had no plan for it, Biden has no plan. You can’t keep printing money out of thin air without paying the piper. Canada might be a little better off, but unless this lockdown ends soon, we are in deep trouble.

Thank you moderator for letting me have my rant.
 
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