2020 Toyota tacoma
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Brother has a Tundra and is a terrible driver/vehicle abuser.
If it can survive him it can survive anything.
(BTW that's not his in the picture)
I had a couple of loaded GMs and frankly the dealer was a douchebag. Toyota dealer is really good to deal with.
When buying a vehicle the quality of service you get from the dealer is as important as the vehicle.
Don’t know why but I am always fascinated by people’s choice in vehicles and how they arrive at their decision. Also how some are so violently opposed to one brand vs another (I’d never buy a POS Ford! Etc etc
OP -are you looking for a truck, specifically?
The new F150s are exceptional vehicles and compare favourably to the Toyota:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/ford-f150-vs-toyota-tundra
OP -are you looking for a truck, specifically?
The new F150s are exceptional vehicles and compare favourably to the Toyota:
https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/ford-f150-vs-toyota-tundra
The reason I would recommend Toyota over Ford is the amount of research Toyota puts into a product prior to production. There is a reason Toyota's always look boring compared to other manufacturers (Camry is always a good example) It's because they spend more time getting their product well built.
The idea of ‘resale value’ being a purchase consideration is another thing that I find odd.
If you are already thinking of trading/selling before you even buy - or simply like to flip vehicles - you should be leasing ...?
If you are already thinking of trading/selling before you even buy - or simply like to flip vehicles - you should be leasing ...?
That resale value is overrated.
Why. Because Toyota during the warranty years takes good cares of the vehicle (They have taken care of a problem that gives your car 6 to 9 more years , then it starts a collidiscope of problems). The other companies do not and that is based on replacement part life expectancy (basicly offer a lesser warranty). Before 2010 Toyota was untouchable for recalls on parts/vehicles and had high purchase prices and resale values... But the vehicles broke down and had problems, Toyota just didn't admit it was their fault or fixed them under warranty.
The other factor is parts. Price. American car part are less expensive, Japanese parts more expensive. Speaks to engineering.
Another factor is that GM, Ford , Dodge all had greater numbers of different types of model/makes, which make a mess of the parts pools, engine types, etc. (all this comes from different companies they bought out over the last century etc). Whereas the Japanese companies were bombed into nothing in WW2, plants had to be rebuilt, and slowly the companies came out with models that were similar with more similar parts than American companies.
Remember American engineers are good engineers, they designed their parts to be replaced just after the 5 year warranty runs out. The Japanese runs out after 7 or 9 years....
Its been 10 years since 2010 and the japanese replacement parts will now start to break down more often in repaired cars....
Most cars engines wear on start up. When there is no oil lubrication except whats left after last shut down. Installing a prelube pump would help with wear and tear of IC engines as it puts oil where need at start up of engine. Do car manufacturers put in a pre-lube pump? NO. After all they want you to buy another car at least 3 or 4 time in your lifetime.
Why. Because Toyota during the warranty years takes good cares of the vehicle (They have taken care of a problem that gives your car 6 to 9 more years , then it starts a collidiscope of problems). The other companies do not and that is based on replacement part life expectancy (basicly offer a lesser warranty). Before 2010 Toyota was untouchable for recalls on parts/vehicles and had high purchase prices and resale values... But the vehicles broke down and had problems, Toyota just didn't admit it was their fault or fixed them under warranty.
The other factor is parts. Price. American car part are less expensive, Japanese parts more expensive. Speaks to engineering.
Another factor is that GM, Ford , Dodge all had greater numbers of different types of model/makes, which make a mess of the parts pools, engine types, etc. (all this comes from different companies they bought out over the last century etc). Whereas the Japanese companies were bombed into nothing in WW2, plants had to be rebuilt, and slowly the companies came out with models that were similar with more similar parts than American companies.
Remember American engineers are good engineers, they designed their parts to be replaced just after the 5 year warranty runs out. The Japanese runs out after 7 or 9 years....
Its been 10 years since 2010 and the japanese replacement parts will now start to break down more often in repaired cars....
Most cars engines wear on start up. When there is no oil lubrication except whats left after last shut down. Installing a prelube pump would help with wear and tear of IC engines as it puts oil where need at start up of engine. Do car manufacturers put in a pre-lube pump? NO. After all they want you to buy another car at least 3 or 4 time in your lifetime.
Do you own a Toyota? If not then you don’t know what you’re talking about. I happen to own a Tacoma. Nothing of what you claim about Toyotas is true.
TUNDRA
get the 4.6 unless you intend to tow 7K plus
otherwise gas mileage brutal.
TACOMA
if you need a small everyday light duty pu
get the 4.6 unless you intend to tow 7K plus
otherwise gas mileage brutal.
TACOMA
if you need a small everyday light duty pu
Right now both new and used prices are up.
When the plants shut down it affected inventory levels. So basic supply/demand - fewer new vehicles available led to dealers being able to hold out for more gross, as customers didn’t really have the chance to shop around ...
This also then impacted used prices - as with fewer new cars to sell - dealers needed some sort of product to sell - and hence were wiling to step off and offer more for trade-in value etc And recoup by selling at a higher price ...
Interesting times right now...
When the plants shut down it affected inventory levels. So basic supply/demand - fewer new vehicles available led to dealers being able to hold out for more gross, as customers didn’t really have the chance to shop around ...
This also then impacted used prices - as with fewer new cars to sell - dealers needed some sort of product to sell - and hence were wiling to step off and offer more for trade-in value etc And recoup by selling at a higher price ...
Interesting times right now...
The fuel economy in these smaller trucks has always been disappointing.
Maybe better now but the full size trucks have also improved.
My 2019 Sierra 1500 with the 5.3 V8 and 8 speed is quite good.
Best I got babying it on the freeway was 10.7 l/100km. Average around town about 16 and towing a 5000 lb, 24’ travel trailer 22.
It can carry full sheets of plywood between the wheels and tow almost 12,000 lbs with the heavy trailer package it has too.
And that V8 sound is hard to beat!
Maybe better now but the full size trucks have also improved.
My 2019 Sierra 1500 with the 5.3 V8 and 8 speed is quite good.
Best I got babying it on the freeway was 10.7 l/100km. Average around town about 16 and towing a 5000 lb, 24’ travel trailer 22.
It can carry full sheets of plywood between the wheels and tow almost 12,000 lbs with the heavy trailer package it has too.
And that V8 sound is hard to beat!
