Renovation in the home...

80watts

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The hidden costs....
So you want to put tile on the the bathroom floor.....
The look of tile is nice and can give the bathroom a nice new look. Tile must be laid on 1.5 inches of wood (recommend plywood not osb) or on concrete (which is usually 2inches or thicker). Most floors are laid with 5/8 inch osb to 3/4 inch. Which means you have to add to the floor height in able to ensure that your tile does not crack. The 1.5 iches of floor is to make sure the floor does not flex, which could cause the tiles to flex and crack. Add in the height of tile and mortar. So now there is a difference between the bathroom floor and the hallway.....
So to raise the floor in the bathroom, have to consider the toilet and the sink cabinet. Best to remove the cabinet and put in the extra height of flooring (extra plywood)under the cabinet, and tile around the cabinet (cheaper then putting tile under the cabinet).
Now comes the toilet. Usually plumbers cut the drain level with the floor when installing the toilet. So if you have to heighten the floor for tile, you must somehow expand the drain line upwards to reinstall the toilet.
Any thoughts on how to extend the drain pipe.

A reno near the stairs, can mean a odd step at the top or bottom if you have to heighten the floor for tile/wood floor when putting in a stiffer floor for support of new flooring.

Also what your kitchen cabinets are made of. I once replaced counter top, made of melamine. By the sink which didn't have a good seal (of caulking) under the sink lip and counter top, the water ingress expanded the melamine.

So for people buying a new house, ask about whats under that carpet for floor and check under the kitchen sink.
 

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So if you have to heighten the floor for tile, you must somehow expand the drain line upwards to reinstall the toilet.
Any thoughts on how to extend the drain pipe.
Just get a thicker wax ring, or use two wax rings.
I have done this to make up over an inch of floor rise before.
Cheap, easy, and long lasting.
 

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Now comes the toilet. Usually plumbers cut the drain level with the floor when installing the toilet. So if you have to heighten the floor for tile, you must somehow expand the drain line upwards to reinstall the toilet.
Any thoughts on how to extend the drain pipe.
How about a "squat toilet"?

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MrM

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The hidden costs....
So you want to put tile on the the bathroom floor.....
The look of tile is nice and can give the bathroom a nice new look. Tile must be laid on 1.5 inches of wood (recommend plywood not osb) or on concrete (which is usually 2inches or thicker). Most floors are laid with 5/8 inch osb to 3/4 inch. Which means you have to add to the floor height in able to ensure that your tile does not crack. The 1.5 iches of floor is to make sure the floor does not flex, which could cause the tiles to flex and crack. Add in the height of tile and mortar. So now there is a difference between the bathroom floor and the hallway.....
So to raise the floor in the bathroom, have to consider the toilet and the sink cabinet. Best to remove the cabinet and put in the extra height of flooring (extra plywood)under the cabinet, and tile around the cabinet (cheaper then putting tile under the cabinet).
Now comes the toilet. Usually plumbers cut the drain level with the floor when installing the toilet. So if you have to heighten the floor for tile, you must somehow expand the drain line upwards to reinstall the toilet.
Any thoughts on how to extend the drain pipe.

A reno near the stairs, can mean a odd step at the top or bottom if you have to heighten the floor for tile/wood floor when putting in a stiffer floor for support of new flooring.

Also what your kitchen cabinets are made of. I once replaced counter top, made of melamine. By the sink which didn't have a good seal (of caulking) under the sink lip and counter top, the water ingress expanded the melamine.

So for people buying a new house, ask about whats under that carpet for floor and check under the kitchen sink.
If you are doing home improvements- you may want to consider being careful and selective about where you get your advice. You clearly would benefit from some professional input here...lmao...PERB is an interesting choice for seeking home build/renovation advice. Ha ha ha. You may use the word “fuck” a lot when doing the work, but probably shouldn’t be any “fucking” going on. Unless your partner gets turned on by a tool belt or handyman, in which case knock yourself out...as they say.
Substrate and subfloor thickness is not required to be only on 1 1/2” of subfloor. The use of an anti fracture membrane - a product by Schluter called ditra matting - will eliminate the need to add bulky “thickness” to your subfloor.
Go to the Schluter website and do some reading. A wealth of information is available there for what materials use as well as how to use the corrrct products for professional results. Just because you want to do it cheaper, doesn’t mean you should. Good luck.
 
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