Congress to start TRUMP impeachment process

[badbadboy]

Typical of the left nowadays...if they don’t like the question, they ignore it, or make something up.

Again, and I’ll word it another way for you: why all this effort to get rid of him if he is doing that bad of a job?

Just because I disagree with your tinfoil hat version of events, it does not mean I am "Left". If anything, I'm more centre Right. The difference between you and me is purely I follow the news with respect to court rulings in the USA. Not what any cable news outlet has to say about it. You probably think that some sort of Deep State group is responsible for all the convictions, plea bargains and cooperation with the FBI, DOJ etc.

It's a convenient for you to put down by calling someone "Left" which connotes a Socialist which is as any MAGA type would equate to being related to the Devil. But those people are simpletons, aren't they?

So I'll pose your question back at you. What exactly has #45 done that is so great that the US would let it slide with all the charges against him?

I honestly can not think of one thing that is positive to come out of this administration since day one.

Not the Environment. Worst decisions in the past 100 years by allowing exploration in Federal Parks and having a thieving Secretary Pruitt at the head of it.
Not the economy. It was on the uprise curve at the end of Obama's administration.
Not medical care. He wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare but luckily got shut down because it would have put millions off of any medical care.
Not International Trade. He has picked a fight with EU, Canada, Mexico and China. His actions have greatly hurt farmers and manufacturing in the USA.
Not Nuclear Treaties. He picked a fight with Iran and North Korea has made a joke of him by not signing any agreement.
Not the Military. His constant meddling in international affairs has made his own party chastise him for his not staying the course in Syria with thousands of Kurds now facing inhalation by Turkey.

So you tell me. What exactly has this guy done that has made America Great Again?

Here is post #114 for your reflection.

#45 has a plan? That’s hilarious since he has the attention span of a gnat.

Boil it down and consider what he’s done during this term:

• Started trade wars on all fronts with Canada, China and the EU
• Canada still has the duties on steel and aluminum products. This has proven to be harmful to US manufacturers making their products uncompetitive
• A long trade negotiation for NAFTA 2.0 yielded very little difference from 1.0
• Failed to categorically call an end to the White Supremacy groups marching
• Failed to push for any gun control legislation. Still blames it on Democrats even though bi-partisan bills died #moscowmitch
• Cow-tows to dictators, talks a big game but never gets any conclusive results for nuclear arms agreements with N Korea.
• Fails to call out Putin over the meddling in the 2016 election. This was counter to all US intelligence services. Mueller indicted several Russian operatives even identifying the exact location of the computer used.
• Turns a blind eye when Saudi Arabia murders an American journalist.
• Tears up the Iran nuclear agreement that all major countries agreed was working.
• Threatens another war with Iran. US has been at war for 18 straight years. Poking Iran won’t be a pushover and count on a long war which in the end nobody would win.

Other than these items Donny has done a bang up job :crazy:

Can you really say he’s made your country great again?

 

[marsvolta]

oh, but he's doing exactly what Repulicans want him to do...

America's richest 400 families now pay a lower tax rate than the middle class
Donald Trump Promised to Eliminate the Deficit in 8 Years. So Far, He Has Increased it by 68%

 

[marsvolta]

Again, and I’ll word it another way for you: why all this effort to get rid of him if he is doing that bad of a job?

because, once you get away with getting a foreign actor to screw your political enemies... next time you just do that internally by having federal agencies arrest them. then you start dissolving democratically elected entities like congress if they become too burdensome (or just ignore them all together). then you start arresting business owners and those with capital and getting them to hand over those assets. then you crash your economy for everyone but the precious few in positions of power, who are making a killing. and start stuffing ballot boxes or... don't even bother with that because you make yourself leader for life.

its an time tested tactic. once the rule of law is obliterated then the tyrant is the rule of law and then its banana republic, oligarchy or whatever time.

 

[Gardener]

How’s Trump’s betrayal of the Kurds sitting with all the pro-Trumpers. Turkey didnt even wait 24 hours to begin the slaughter.

 

[80watts]

Does that make Trump responsible for the coming genocide? Or the American people?

American politics in the rest of the world have been disastrous. Anywhere they have propped up individuals in foreign countries (Iran, Liberia, Irag, Afghanistan) it has come back to bite them in the ass.... all in the name of capitalism, oil, or fighting communism....
The Christian ethic is to help other people. American is a Christian country, run by republicans who are Christian.

After all the best movies are the ones where a small number of men go into another country and rescue or blow something up. The movies relate to reality, American forces have been citizens of other countries for year. For the last 20 have been dropping smart bombs on them. All in the best interest of Americans that it should not happen to themselves.

Americans only take from the rest of the world. When Americans could no longer take the high price of oil, they started fracking the oil left in their land, I'm just waiting for a great environmental disaster to happen.

 

[wetnose]

Americans only take from the rest of the world. When Americans could no longer take the high price of oil, they started fracking the oil left in their land, I'm just waiting for a great environmental disaster to happen.

It already happened - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

 

[Shakerod]

Just because I disagree with your tinfoil hat version of events, it does not mean I am "Left". If anything, I'm more centre Right. The difference between you and me is purely I follow the news with respect to court rulings in the USA. Not what any cable news outlet has to say about it. You probably think that some sort of Deep State group is responsible for all the convictions, plea bargains and cooperation with the FBI, DOJ etc.

It's a convenient for you to put down by calling someone "Left" which connotes a Socialist which is as any MAGA type would equate to being related to the Devil. But those people are simpletons, aren't they?

So I'll pose your question back at you. What exactly has #45 done that is so great that the US would let it slide with all the charges against him?

I honestly can not think of one thing that is positive to come out of this administration since day one.

Not the Environment. Worst decisions in the past 100 years by allowing exploration in Federal Parks and having a thieving Secretary Pruitt at the head of it.
Not the economy. It was on the uprise curve at the end of Obama's administration.
Not medical care. He wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare but luckily got shut down because it would have put millions off of any medical care.
Not International Trade. He has picked a fight with EU, Canada, Mexico and China. His actions have greatly hurt farmers and manufacturing in the USA.
Not Nuclear Treaties. He picked a fight with Iran and North Korea has made a joke of him by not signing any agreement.
Not the Military. His constant meddling in international affairs has made his own party chastise him for his not staying the course in Syria with thousands of Kurds now facing inhalation by Turkey.

So you tell me. What exactly has this guy done that has made America Great Again?

Here is post #114 for your reflection.

He has been doing Bilateral trade deals with countries and reworked some of what he thought were one-sided trade deals, didn’t sign the TPP, brought in The Right to Try Act, that brings alternative medicine into the market without having to get FDA approval so people don’t have to go to other countries for alternative treatment, has done more for the black community then any president in history, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, has gone after human trafficking and sex trafficking, drugs and gangs by tightening up the border, executive order to bring in The National Council of American Workers Act and 1 billion dollars for worker training, rolled back the Dodd Frank Act that hurt community banks, lowered utility costs, trying to end the corruption in Washington, trying to end lobbying in Washington, trying to bring in a new economic system that helps the people instead of banks, signed a new Endangered Species Act, Signed an executive order for Transparency and Guidance Enforcement, getting out of the endless wars in the Middle East. Just to name a few...All of this while trying to keep the Deep State from trying to get rid of him.

 

[Shakerod]

because, once you get away with getting a foreign actor to screw your political enemies... next time you just do that internally by having federal agencies arrest them. then you start dissolving democratically elected entities like congress if they become too burdensome (or just ignore them all together). then you start arresting business owners and those with capital and getting them to hand over those assets. then you crash your economy for everyone but the precious few in positions of power, who are making a killing. and start stuffing ballot boxes or... don't even bother with that because you make yourself leader for life.

its an time tested tactic. once the rule of law is obliterated then the tyrant is the rule of law and then its banana republic, oligarchy or whatever time.

Or, the Machiavellian way is if you are guilty of crimes you go after the enemy for those same crimes before the enemy gets you.

 

[Sifupoon]

Are you trolling or serious? The Onion is literally a fake news site. It's the original "satirical news source." Think of it as the Mad Magazine of the Huffington Post generation.

Google is your friend.

p.s. the Onion is actually pretty funny.

Me trolling? That's pretty funny. :lol: No my friend, I bend to aggression, Much easier to
control and overtake when you use someone's aggression against themselves.
My training teaches me to not be an aggressive person as it is a waste of energy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang_Chengfu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong

But that's all for another thread.



Now for the onion..........
Nope, never heard of it. The rock I live under, or rather on, is the third one from the sun.

But I'll check it out anyway. I love satire.

 

[marsvolta]

He has been doing Bilateral trade deals with countries and reworked some of what he thought were one-sided trade deals, didn’t sign the TPP, brought in The Right to Try Act, that brings alternative medicine into the market without having to get FDA approval so people don’t have to go to other countries for alternative treatment, has done more for the black community then any president in history, lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, has gone after human trafficking and sex trafficking, drugs and gangs by tightening up the border, executive order to bring in The National Council of American Workers Act and 1 billion dollars for worker training, rolled back the Dodd Frank Act that hurt community banks, lowered utility costs, trying to end the corruption in Washington, trying to end lobbying in Washington, trying to bring in a new economic system that helps the people instead of banks, signed a new Endangered Species Act, Signed an executive order for Transparency and Guidance Enforcement, getting out of the endless wars in the Middle East. Just to name a few...All of this while trying to keep the Deep State from trying to get rid of him.

He's just simply not responsible for most of this. His administration can only be credited with executive orders as everything else has little to do with his administration. his bilateral trade deals are a bust. actually he only has one signed with Korea and negotiations started in 2007!
The Right to Try Act passed unanimously in the Senate and was introduced by Republican Ron Johnson. Trump does not seem to have had any input.
Blacks have seen Trump sign both opportunity zones and the First Step Act. the First Step Act had only Republican votes against. none of this was on Trumps agenda.
The National Council of American Workers Act does indeed have promise and was absolutely necessary given Trumps protectionist trade policies.
Changes to the Dodd Frank Act are good when they target smaller institutions and have, again, been on the Republican agenda forever.
Transparency and Guidance Enforcement is a good thing for sure.
He gutted the Endangered Species Act. Nothing good here.
The US economy is what it is without Trump. just extrapolate the economic lines from 2008.
Getting out of endless conflict in the middle east means... well, handing all of that over to the Russians thank you very much. they will have control of the northern oil fields of Iraq shortly. his foreign policy is a disaster.

and still, he is a confessed criminal who is eager to ensure that his business profits from his office and a tyrant who is willing to subvert the rule of law to attack his perceived enemies and supreme spreader of "deep state" disinformation. and he's brought the tax rate for the richest down to that of the middle class and piled $1 trillion dollars of extra debt during an economic boom. and he's got no good ideas of his own actually... besides those that protect his own skin.

 

[CDNVT]

Lots of pure BS

 

[CDNVT]

 

[CDNVT]

More CRAP :

 

[marsvolta]

OMG i'm so glad that you've exposed "main streem" media, CDNVT! how dare these guys throw in a bit of visuals that they don't have because... you know its hard to have constant visuals happening and stuff. but whats important is that everyone can go to sleep now knowing that the Turkish army are currently giving out ice cream sandwiches to Kurdish children (those dead children? fake!). That transcript supposedly released by the WH where Trump kinda, you know, pushes another country to fabricate investigations, fake (actually it was a perfect call and Jeff Boulton NEVER called it a drug deal). Rudys Ukraine friends who were getting paid by that Russian guy? they don't exist! they're not in jail! the jail doesn't exist. if they do exist they're giving ice cream sandwiches to Kurdish children who, again, are not getting shot at! its just CBS that want you to think that. Paul Manafort isn't in jail... he's vacationing and is probably out of cell phone reception otherwise he would expose all that working for Russian money thing as the lie that it is! of course Trump never told Corey to tell Jeff to fire Bob, Corey lied under oath about that cause he just wanted to give the finger to the "deep state"! haha! Corey can be such a card! Trumps lawyers didn't just argue in court that he, his businesses and anyone who associates with him are immune to indictment or even investigation! what a lie! Trump would never say something like that! and geesh, if the Kurds were getting their asses kicked and children were like, in cages, or getting bullets in the head then its because Trump never heard of them... Trump would never throw an ally under the bus! just ask Reince or John or Kirstjen or Steve or H.R. (not the lead singer from Bad Brains, the other one) or "drug deal" John or Sean or Gary or Keith or James or Jeff or "moron" Rex etc etc... no, they just had better things to do than get ice cream sandwiches from the fridge to give to Kurdish kids! and you know, if there was any chance that Trump was corrupt then he would just say so cause, well, everyone is corrupt, its just that he's less corrupt! its not like he lied to the American people about getting a blow job in the Oval office and not wanting his wife to find out about it. no, he got a blow job from a porn star in a hotel room and lied about it to the American people because he didn't want his wife to find out about it. thats completly different!

 

[Hugh Jass]

OMG i'm so glad that you've exposed "main streem" media, CDNVT! how dare these guys throw in a bit of visuals that they don't have because... you know its hard to have constant visuals happening and stuff. but whats important is that everyone can go to sleep now knowing that the Turkish army are currently giving out ice cream sandwiches to Kurdish children (those dead children? fake!). That transcript supposedly released by the WH where Trump kinda, you know, pushes another country to fabricate investigations, fake (actually it was a perfect call and Jeff Boulton NEVER called it a drug deal). Rudys Ukraine friends who were getting paid by that Russian guy? they don't exist! they're not in jail! the jail doesn't exist. if they do exist they're giving ice cream sandwiches to Kurdish children who, again, are not getting shot at! its just CBS that want you to think that. Paul Manafort isn't in jail... he's vacationing and is probably out of cell phone reception otherwise he would expose all that working for Russian money thing as the lie that it is! of course Trump never told Corey to tell Jeff to fire Bob, Corey lied under oath about that cause he just wanted to give the finger to the "deep state"! haha! Corey can be such a card! Trumps lawyers didn't just argue in court that he, his businesses and anyone who associates with him are immune to indictment or even investigation! what a lie! Trump would never say something like that! and geesh, if the Kurds were getting their asses kicked and children were like, in cages, or getting bullets in the head then its because Trump never heard of them... Trump would never throw an ally under the bus! just ask Reince or John or Kirstjen or Steve or H.R. (not the lead singer from Bad Brains, the other one) or "drug deal" John or Sean or Gary or Keith or James or Jeff or "moron" Rex etc etc... no, they just had better things to do than get ice cream sandwiches from the fridge to give to Kurdish kids! and you know, if there was any chance that Trump was corrupt then he would just say so cause, well, everyone is corrupt, its just that he's less corrupt! its not like he lied to the American people about getting a blow job in the Oval office and not wanting his wife to find out about it. no, he got a blow job from a porn star in a hotel room and lied about it to the American people because he didn't want his wife to find out about it. thats completly different!

Wow! A wall of words rant!!! Were those videos a trigger or what!

 

[masterblaster]

It already happened - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill

I don’t see the connection between a blowout in the Gulf of Mexico on a BP well and hydraulic fracturing conducted onshore in the US.

 

[marsvolta]

Wow! A wall of words rant!!! Were those videos a trigger or what!

of course they were... they defy logic. the first two set out that the "main stream" news media used bogus video "many, many, many, many times... all the time actually" (well, 2008, 2010, 2019 that we know of) but actually fails to say that what was being reported wasn't happening or didn't happen and thus, through pure logic, the "main stream" news media reports lies!
the last one says "well, CNN wants to cover a side of the story that FOX refuses to cover" and thus, through pure logic, the "main stream" news media reports lies!

total tin foil hat fodder.

but we still love you Uncle Joe
The need to find order in a confusing world

 

[JimDandy]

WOW !!! The House just delivered a bipartisan condemnation of President Trump’s decision to withdraw American forces just inside Syria’s border, registering broad opposition in Congress to a move that has thrown the region into bloody chaos and unraveled Middle East policy.

JD

 

[jgg]

...Trump’s decision to withdraw American forces just inside Syria’s border...

It was a favour to his buddy Vlad.

 

[Shakerod]

WOW !!! The House just delivered a bipartisan condemnation of President Trump’s decision to withdraw American forces just inside Syria’s border, registering broad opposition in Congress to a move that has thrown the region into bloody chaos and unraveled Middle East policy.

JD

Turkish forces and the Syrian National Army are clearing the region of YPG/PPK, Daesh terrorists and establishing a safe zone along Turkey’s Syrian border called ‘Operation Peace Spring’ with the ultimate goal of providing border security to ensure the safe return of Syrian refugees into Turkey. This Kurdish area of Syria where the fighting is was a safe haven for paid mercenary forces and Deep State operatives put there during Obama’s administration. Once the Black Sites are gone they will work towards a peace deal between Turkey and the Kurds.

There is no one more qualified to help with this than Putin. He got rid of the Deep State operatives in his country 15 years ago. This is also about the U.S. getting out of their Middle East dependency on oil. How many more American soldiers need to die for cheap gas?