The latest poll

[storm rider]

It shows that 37% of Canadians want a change in Ottawa and would vote Conservative.

Never mind the dog whistle politics as well as the left wing bias of the media that up to the SNC Lavalin scandal were pretty much fawning over Trudeau....from his fucking socks to him making an ass of himself on the trip to India.

The last 4 years of Governance has been nothing but entitlement and just plain straight up stupidity......from the "budgets balance themselves"....which lead to 30+ Billion in DEBT(and with no accounting of it) as well as the private vacation to the
private island of the Aga Khan and so forth.Not to mention LavScam and the recently dodged bullet of the Marc Norman court case.O how about when an angry Vet confronted Trudeau at a Liberal packed townhall and was told "veterans are asking for more than Canada can give now".....yeah but the Liberal gGovernment can piss away 500 MILLION on "refugees" and then refuse to take care of the people that serve in the armed forces.....DISPICABLE

Canadians want a change and I sure as fuck hope we get it.If not and Trudeau gets another Majority.....Canada is on a one way ticket to Destination Fucked.

If Canadians do get "change" I cant imagine how bad it will be when the curtain is pulled back and we get to see the real damage that has been inflicted by the so called "infrastructure bank" brought into the plan by the Trudeau Government.
I think it will make the Sponsorship Administration Program(which cost tax payers 250 MILLION) seem like a drop in the bucket.

SR

 

[susi]

i hope anyone who votes conservative gets that they will face deeper criminalization as sex buyers. these guys have no clue and it will be harper 2.0. best of luck with that....ABC - anyone but conservative.

seriously SR, what good could come of electing the faith based neo con oppressors? do you really think they care about you or anyone? not saying trudeau is an angel....but seriously....schneer is the alternative...?

 

[BobbyMcgee]

i hope anyone who votes conservative gets that they will face deeper criminalization as sex buyers. these guys have no clue and it will be harper 2.0. best of luck with that....ABC - anyone but conservative.

seriously SR, what good could come of electing the faith based neo con oppressors? do you really think they care about you or anyone? not saying trudeau is an angel....but seriously....schneer is the alternative...?

many conservatives are old school blue collar everyday working people. salt of the earth types who own their own property and businesses. just came back from two weeks northern bc and alberta. last few years hitting the hard working canadian farmer, construction industry, oil patch and forestry guys hard. the anti trudeau sentiment is everywhere from coffee shops to hand made road side billboards. it’s not a religious thing. it’s economics and an entitled leader. i for one welcome a change.

 

[storm rider]

i hope anyone who votes conservative gets that they will face deeper criminalization as sex buyers. these guys have no clue and it will be harper 2.0. best of luck with that....ABC - anyone but conservative.

seriously SR, what good could come of electing the faith based neo con oppressors? do you really think they care about you or anyone? not saying trudeau is an angel....but seriously....schneer is the alternative...?

I have never dealt with the criminal aspect of it as I dont pick up street walkers.I do not make my political choices based upon a frivilous and expensive pastime that tends to be self destructive(I know one guy personally whose marriage ended because of pooning) I do however make my choice for government that is in my best interests and in the best interests of Canada.With that in mind I vote Conservative as I want less government/lower taxes/and honest governance....say what you want about Harper but in the 10 years he was running Canada with 2 minorities and 1 majority he was never tainted with LavScam.Nor did he enact that so called "hidden agenda" the Leftist Media fearmongered about.

The last 4 years of Trudeau was him partly finishing the work his POS father began and who is the person responsible for the vast debt that Canada has when he sold out the country to globalists.

SR

 

[susi]

ok, but recent enforcement has nothing to do with street level, it's all been parlors and indoor...i assume some street enforcement in backwards places like winterpeg still happens but i just want people to be aware....conservatives means deeper criminalization and more enforcement to prevent "trafficking"....you yourself note that people's lives can be destroyed...

i do sympathize with much of what you are saying but let's have a clear and balanced discussion about it....

people always say..."there's more important things to consider"....fine...but i think we can all gauge the kind of person a politician is by their reaction to the most basic of issues. do they have a common sense approach...? or are they easily influenced by ideological zealots...?

chances are if they are easily swayed on one thing, they will be on the rest as well...

i mean this in the most loving way SR....not trying to piss you off....

 

[susi]

many conservatives are old school blue collar everyday working people. salt of the earth types who own their own property and businesses. just came back from two weeks northern bc and alberta. last few years hitting the hard working canadian farmer, construction industry, oil patch and forestry guys hard. the anti trudeau sentiment is everywhere from coffee shops to hand made road side billboards. it’s not a religious thing. it’s economics and an entitled leader. i for one welcome a change.

i am a small business owner ( my meat market/ butcher shop) and am also working class. i welcome change but don't want to go backwards. i am very afraid of what a conservative government will mean....

 

[badbadboy]

I have never dealt with the criminal aspect of it as I dont pick up street walkers.I do not make my political choices based upon a frivilous and expensive pastime that tends to be self destructive(I know one guy personally whose marriage ended because of pooning) I do however make my choice for government that is in my best interests and in the best interests of Canada.With that in mind I vote Conservative as I want less government/lower taxes/and honest governance....say what you want about Harper but in the 10 years he was running Canada with 2 minorities and 1 majority he was never tainted with LavScam.Nor did he enact that so called "hidden agenda" the Leftist Media fearmongered about.

The last 4 years of Trudeau was him partly finishing the work his POS father began and who is the person responsible for the vast debt that Canada has when he sold out the country to globalists.

SR

You do not have to go after street walkers, massage parlours or trafficked SP to feel the wrath of C 36.

Without going into any detail, buyers of sex are not protected and have no rights even in the city of Vancouver.

Guys who think they are impervious to C36 have delusional thoughts it will never happen to them. It can and does happen.

Time to wake up guys. Though I still think you'd vote for the Cons regardless of any warning.

 

[storm rider]

You do not have to go after street walkers, massage parlours or trafficked SP to feel the wrath of C 36.

Without going into any detail, buyers of sex are not protected and have no rights even in the city of Vancouver.

Guys who think they are impervious to C36 have delusional thoughts it will never happen to them. It can and does happen.

Time to wake up guys. Though I still think you'd vote for the Cons regardless of any warning.

Keeping that in mind when I consider a choice for Government I look at all aspects of what they take into stewardship with regards to the economy/vetrans affairs/healthcare/deficits/surpluses and so on.The last thing on my priority list is prostitution laws.

To vote solely on the issue which impacts less than a fraction of 1% of the population is outright dumb.

Andrew

 

[Crookedmember]

Basing election expectations on a single IPSOS poll done for Global is a recipe for disappointment, as those always skew WAYYY right (along with Global so-called news).

Both Ekos and Nanos have the Liberals far ahead in Atlantic, Que and Ont.

The Conservatives' problem is the more people see of Scheer, the more they distrust him.

(Ekos)

 

[BobbyMcgee]

Basing election expectations on a single IPSOS poll done for Global is a recipe for disappointment, as those always skew WAYYY right (along with Global so-called news).

Both Ekos and Nanos have the Liberals far ahead in Atlantic, Que and Ont.

The Conservatives' problem is the more people see of Scheer, the more they distrust him.

(Ekos)

and WHO really is trusting Trudeau with our economy veterans foreign affairs etc... honestly

 

[storm rider]

and WHO really is trusting Trudeau with our economy veterans foreign affairs etc... honestly

Now why would you ask about important/articulate issues?

SR

 

[Crookedmember]

Let's see.

Unemployment is the lowest in almost 5 decades. The economy and wages are growing again after years of stagnation under Harper/Scheer. Veterans Affairs offices are reopened and funding restored after both were slashed by Harper/Scheer.

The elderly got a large GIS increase. Families got the CCB. The middle class got a tax cut after Harper/Scheer gave the corporations $60 billion worth of tax cuts and saddled the rest of us with the debt.

Merkle and JT are the world's two most respected leaders.

The CPC is the party of the uneducated, and likely to remain so.

 

[storm rider]

Let's see.

Unemployment is the lowest in almost 5 decades. The economy and wages are growing again after years of stagnation under Harper/Scheer. Veterans Affairs offices are reopened and funding restored after both were slashed by Harper/Scheer.

The elderly got a large GIS increase. Families got the CCB. The middle class got a tax cut after Harper/Scheer gave the corporations $60 billion worth of tax cuts and saddled the rest of us with the debt.

Merkle and JT are the world's two most respected leaders.

The CPC is the party of the uneducated, and likely to remain so.

Uh yeah...not....Harper steered the Canadian economy through the worst recession since the Great Depression.The Lieberals took over government and had a 1 BILLION surplus on the books.As for the Child Tax credit...it is TAXABLE and under the new Lieberal CCB and after the so called tax breaks the average Canadian family is paying $948 more per year in TAXES.A gal who works for a client I take care of no longer gets the the child tax credit as her family is supposedly "rich" when in fact her family is "middle class".

Canada is after 4 years of Trudeau's governance 20+ BILLION further in DEBT and the average Canadian IS/ARE paying more TAXES with the Carbon Tax just the latest and projection for the Carbon Tax are said to be needed to be $200 a ton and not $50 a ton for it to be effective.

Dont even get me started on that cow Merkle....she has as a globalist run Germany into the ground for the average German who is multi-generational with the importation of 4 MILLION muslim refugees.....I guess you missed the headlines about the rapes of German women by muslim men.Same goes for Sweden,in every major city in Sweden there is a "no go zone" as in even fire and EMS dont go to those places without a police escort.

Read up and get "educated" on some "facts" and "real evidence" before you call me "uneducated".

Hey fun "fact" that scumbag Gerald Butts who resigned over the LavScam affair is now running Trudeau's re-election campaign.

SR

 

[80watts]

Gerald Butts... resigned and lives to be helpful at a later time, don't know why he quit in the first place. And thats is all to be said about politics...

When you watch a movie where the drone is to strike (has permission from the top) and it kills the target... Does our PM get to do that? Just wondering....

 

[storm rider]

Gerald Butts... resigned and lives to be helpful at a later time, don't know why he quit in the first place. And thats is all to be said about politics...

When you watch a movie where the drone is to strike (has permission from the top) and it kills the target... Does our PM get to do that? Just wondering....

What rock have you lived under?Gerald Butts was sacrificed by Trudeau at the height of the LavScam affair along with Micheal Wernick.For trying to influence the Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould.

My question back to you is ....How on earth did you forget these FACTS when Canada is on the cusp of a Federal Election?


SR

 

[CanineCowboy]

What rock have you lived under?Gerald Butts was sacrificed by Trudeau at the height of the LavScam affair along with Micheal Wernick.For trying to influence the Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould.

My question back to you is ....How on earth did you forget these FACTS when Canada is on the cusp of a Federal Election?


SR

What rock are you living under SR? Keep current, Gerald Butts is back! And you continually quote fake news - search the American ambassador to the Hague having to walk back his previous statement about 'no go zones' in Sweden, even trying to claim he never made the statements in the first place, they simply don't exist.

When you look at the actual economic numbers, the Conservatives can't argue with the Liberals over our economic performance or taxation/benefit programs, as Crookedmember already pointed out to you.

Similarly, the BC provincial Liberals can't find actual fault with the performance of the economy during the BC NDP's current governance.

Kind of sucks to be right, when the centerists and left have been kicking ass! I guess that is why you are left denying science and embracing racist ideology.

 

[overdone]

Let's see.

Unemployment is the lowest in almost 5 decades. The economy and wages are growing again after years of stagnation under Harper/Scheer. Veterans Affairs offices are reopened and funding restored after both were slashed by Harper/Scheer.

The elderly got a large GIS increase. Families got the CCB. The middle class got a tax cut after Harper/Scheer gave the corporations $60 billion worth of tax cuts and saddled the rest of us with the debt.

Merkle and JT are the world's two most respected leaders.

The CPC is the party of the uneducated, and likely to remain so.

lol, then there's reality

Canada's economy has virtually nothing to do with our politicians actions, it has to do with the US economy

veteran affairs, sure, talk to some actual veterans how they are feeling

GIS, OAS, CCB, 1/6 dollars that the Feds spend, welfare, mostly to people who don't need it

Trudeau's only talent, increasing spending/welfare, giving away other's money

you need to make somewhere around 200G's (family) to be cut completely off the CCB

you need to NET, not GROSS almost 75G's to be cut off OAS, which is completely a welfare program, it isn't a pension

GIS is the only one that is reasonable, you can't make somewhere in the range of 20G's to get it

Merkel is pretty much solely responsible for the rise of extreme right wing nut jobs in Europe

she's part of the problem, much like our Donald Trump, Trudeau, incompetent, unqualified, trust fund baby, constant lying, doesn't understand basic economics, ect.....

ideology over reality, symbolism over common sense/reality

tax cut, yeah right, debt, sure, he's ran up just as much as Harper, while we weren't in a recession, 70B in 4yrs

the tax cut, it went to the top of the pile, even the rich got it

his increase on the rich, they've already proven it will result in less revenue over time, the rich can afford Tax Lawyers/Accountants/Strategies, Avoidance, ect...

they will shift their behaviour, study after study, if you go above a reasonable tax, in the range of 40-50%, mainly over 50% they just adjust

if he really wanted to give a cut he should have given it to everyone on the first bracket or raised the amount that is tax free, currently in the 11G's range

that would have been more fair


Trudeau respected, :lol: you clearly haven't seen any international news lately

he's become a joke, always was if you weren't deaf/blind/basically a Liberal, lol

 

[wizzer]

I have never dealt with the criminal aspect of it as I dont pick up street walkers.I do not make my political choices based upon a frivilous and expensive pastime that tends to be self destructive(I know one guy personally whose marriage ended because of pooning) I do however make my choice for government that is in my best interests and in the best interests of Canada.With that in mind I vote Conservative as I want less government/lower taxes/and honest governance....say what you want about Harper but in the 10 years he was running Canada with 2 minorities and 1 majority he was never tainted with LavScam.Nor did he enact that so called "hidden agenda" the Leftist Media fearmongered about.

The last 4 years of Trudeau was him partly finishing the work his POS father began and who is the person responsible for the vast debt that Canada has when he sold out the country to globalists.

SR

I have no love for Trudeau or the Liberals in general. That said, you are fooling yourself if you think the CONS are any better. Mulroney and Harper created more debt than both Trudeau's combined and managed that while cutting services to Canadians. Meanwhile, BC's provincial government has improved services for citizens and shown a surplus while keeping taxes very moderate. Both of these conservative PM's had more than their fair share of scandals as well. If you want a change you need to look outside of this binary system, and while you are at it, have a look at Tommy Douglas' story of mouseland - it explains quite nicely why neither of these parties represent you.

you need to NET, not GROSS almost 75G's to be cut off OAS, which is completely a welfare program, it isn't a pension

GIS is the only one that is reasonable, you can't make somewhere in the range of 20G's to get it

As someone who's paid taxes my entire life, I like to think that I can expect some of it back in the form of OAS. Here's an idea, cut off all of the corporate welfare. Make lobbyists illegal. Stop allowing special interest groups to buy politicians. Be willing to pay reasonable taxes for reasonable services. Stop cutting taxes for the rich, and maybe think about raising them. During our most prosperous times (post war) we had the highest taxes on the wealthy. Lets move away from an anachronistic and easily influenced first past the post electoral system.

 

[Crookedmember]

I have no love for Trudeau or the Liberals in general. That said, you are fooling yourself if you think the CONS are any better. Mulroney and Harper created more debt than both Trudeau's combined and managed that while cutting services to Canadians. Meanwhile, BC's provincial government has improved services for citizens and shown a surplus while keeping taxes very moderate. Both of these conservative PM's had more than their fair share of scandals as well. If you want a change you need to look outside of this binary system, and while you are at it, have a look at Tommy Douglas' story of mouseland - it explains quite nicely why neither of these parties represent you.


As someone who's paid taxes my entire life, I like to think that I can expect some of it back in the form of OAS. Here's an idea, cut off all of the corporate welfare. Make lobbyists illegal. Stop allowing special interest groups to buy politicians. Be willing to pay reasonable taxes for reasonable services. Stop cutting taxes for the rich, and maybe think about raising them. During our most prosperous times (post war) we had the highest taxes on the wealthy. Lets move away from an anachronistic and easily influenced first past the post electoral system.

Yup, Mulroney ran up $350 billion of debt, while Harper/Scheer added another $160 billion.

I wish I knew why some folks on the right like to delude themselves.