Federal Marijuana Pardon

[jgg]

Seems like the only thing the Liberals think can save them, or divert attention is related to marijuana.

Will entry to other countries be easier for you with yesterdays announcement of the proposed federal legislation pardoning marijuana possession?

Even having an interest in a entity related to marijuana sales or production can cause problems entering the US.

 

[westwoody]

ICE and Homeland Security said they will not recognise Canadian pardons.

So don't waste money on a pardon if you think it will help you cross the border.

 

[jgg]

Thanks, I didn't realize that.

I have a friend that I thought if she were to get her pardon we would finally travel to the US together.

 

[badbadboy]

Thanks, I didn't realize that.

I have a friend that I thought if she were to get her pardon we would finally travel to the US together.

It's pretty lame to have pardons without expungement. Though they are reducing the cost of a pardon.

More Canadians have been turned away at the border for being honest that they've smoked pot in their entire lives.

 

[johnnydepth]

I have a friend that recently went through the process. Took over a year from start to finish. First thing is going for a pardon (I think its called something else now). Once you have that in place
you apply for a U.S. travel waiver. Its a costly process and they have to reapply for the travel waiver, it's not a one time deal. Then even with that they can deny entry.

 

[nightswhisper]

I have a friend that recently went through the process. Took over a year from start to finish. First thing is going for a pardon (I think its called something else now).

Record suspension.

 

[westwoody]

It's pretty lame to have pardons without expungement

The issue is that the conviction is on file in the USA system.
It is expunged in the Canadian system but not the American one.
Applying for a waiver is all you can do, and those are no guarantee.

 

[johnnydepth]

The issue is that the conviction is on file in the USA system.
It is expunged in the Canadian system but not the American one.
Applying for a waiver is all you can do, and those are no guarantee.

Am I the only one that finds it wrong that the U.S. has access to this information?

 

[westwoody]

No you are not.

 

[badbadboy]

The issue is that the conviction is on file in the USA system.
It is expunged in the Canadian system but not the American one.
Applying for a waiver is all you can do, and those are no guarantee.

Am I the only one that finds it wrong that the U.S. has access to this information?

Everything I've read about pardon vs expungement indicates expungement removes all traces of charges and conviction.

WW where did you find that the US is holding a Canadian data base of convicted pot users? That's truly alarming that they watch their own citizens and those of their neighbors.

Funny sidebar - Canada's website only discusses expungement for people convicted of gross indecency including buggery. It states people have to be of the same sex.

https://www.canada.ca/en/parole-board/services/expungements/commonly-asked-questions.html

 

[johnnydepth]

Everything I've read about pardon vs expungement indicates expungement removes all traces of charges and conviction.

WW where did you find that the US is holding a Canadian data base of convicted pot users? That's truly alarming that they watch their own citizens and those of their neighbors.

Funny sidebar - Canada's website only discusses expungement for people convicted of gross indecency including buggery. It states people have to be of the same sex.

https://www.canada.ca/en/parole-board/services/expungements/commonly-asked-questions.html

It's not just pot users. The U.S. holds information on all Canadians convicted of a crime. So even if you get a "pardon" and have your record sealed it is still on record in the U.S. That's why you still need the travel waiver, even with a pardon. For that matter maybe the U.S. holds records on everyone in the world. Paranoid fuckers.

 

[badbadboy]

It's not just pot users. The U.S. holds information on all Canadians convicted of a crime. So even if you get a "pardon" and have your record sealed it is still on record in the U.S. That's why you still need the travel waiver, even with a pardon. For that matter maybe the U.S. holds records on everyone in the world. Paranoid fuckers.

I get what you and WW are saying.

I'm just trying to read up on it. Got a link ?

 

[westwoody]

Canada and USA share criminal information. Much crime is cross-border.
The agencies are Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) AND National Crime Information Centre (NCIC).
Important to note that not convictions, but also arrests and charges are recorded, even if aquitted or pardoned.

 

[westwoody]

For that matter maybe the U.S. holds records on everyone in the world. Paranoid fuckers.

They are spending billions on a centre to store, literally, everything. Every signal transmitted in the world.
Lots of money to be made off paranoia.

 

[nightswhisper]

I get what you and WW are saying.

I'm just trying to read up on it. Got a link ?

Edward Snowden's leaked WikiLeaks files detail extensive and exhaustive accusations (as well as evidence) of criminal record sharing and intergovernment cooperation between five eyes.

Canada is one of them.